What would you have done ?

[amanda_001s]

Yesterday I had 2 appointments at the end of the first one I was a bit rushed and had to go to Jean-Coutu for new stockings so I put my money in a pot, 280$ for a 90minutes sessions. I went out, run my errance come back and forgot the pot. My second meeting arrived, greated him, have a good time, at the end he tooks his clothes and probably saw the pot, I was getting water, not thinking about it, he tooks his clothes and went for a shower, I came back and saw a 20$ a bit out, then I realized, I count it, 260$, a 20$ was missing. I didn't saw him so I could'nt really confront him. When he came back of the shower I was playing with the pot, I didn't say nothing, neither him but I think he perfectly knew, that I knew. At the door, he tip me 20$ and ask me if he could call me again, I didn't answer, smile blankly and he lefts. How would you have react, what would you have done ? I'm also conscious that it's a bit of my fault, I mean, I forgot to hide it well.

 

[robvya]

hmmm well you caught him, and he knew. He must of felt bad but... thats still stealing and he didnt confess so screw him!

what if... hes a merbite? lol

 

[SylvainP]

It seems that women still feel guilty fast. The fact that you did not hide the pot means the he was innocent. If you're not the kind of guy who steal people, you won't try, even if the situation could be so easy for you: it depends on how moral you are.

 

[amanda_001s]

I don't know and I don't care if he is.
Things is, by not confronting him, did I send the message it was okay to do so ?

Yeah, but I should be more safe, wasn't my fault but I didnt prevent it.

 

[EagerBeaver]

It is a bit your fault, but if you did not respond to his question if he could call you again, he already has his answer.

Sounds like a standard cheapo client who used an opportunity to take another hobbyist's money, which was already yours, to tip you. I think the concept of tipping an SP with her own money, while novel and clever, is in the final analysis the act of Mr. Cheapo Client. And it is up to you and how busy you are, to answer the question of whether you want to see this Mr. Cheapo Client again, or not.

What is most interesting to me is the possibility that you could have refused the tip, which would have then exposed him as a thief. At that point would the jig have been up? Or would he have just walked away with $20?

 

[sam311]

did you count the money after the first session?

 

[amanda_001s]

It is a bit your fault, but if you did not respond to his question if he could call you again, he already has his answer.

Sounds like a standard cheapo client who used an opportunity to take another hobbyist's money, which was already yours, to tip you. I think the concept of tipping an SP with her own money, while novel and clever, is in the final analysis the act of Mr. Cheapo Client. And it is up to you and how busy you are, to answer the question of whether you want to see this Mr. Cheapo Client again, or not.

What is most interesting to me is the possibility that you could have refused the tip, which would have then exposed him as a thief. At that point would the jig have been up? Or would he have just walked away with $20?

No I won't see him ever again. It's not about money, it's about how dishonest you need to be to pull something like this.
It's bothering me because I am under the impression that I should have do something else, I was easy on him. But at the same time, do it worth the risk of a fight ? I mean, i'm receiving at my place (which is an another reason I don't ever want to see him again) I don't want him to turn into a Dr Jeckyll, lol.

But you have a good point, I could have refused I wonder what he would have done, probably nothing.

Sam311- Yes I did.

 

[panthere]

if that is true..i guess why post for a 20 dollars bills....but seriously i am sooooooooooo disapointed about men seriously...some stories i heard in my pm box...wow..i neverrrrrrrrrrr imagine soo much stupidity about guys that are getting reealllllyy low in encounters with sp.....and he have the gutts too give you a 20 dollars tips....are you serious...damn i am out of word...omg..:crazy:

hope you never see him again amanda...unbelivable...wow.

if i had count my money...and see that happenning..he is not getting out of the room free..but i understand that you receive in your appartement...reallyy too bad ..sniff..cause otherwise hummmm grrr

 

[greenacres99]

Amanda,
Maybe not today, but sometime you can look back and just laugh about how petty that guy was. For $20 that ultimately ended up back in your possession, he risked getting caught rifling through your stuff, getting confronted at the end of the visit, getting on your naughty-and-not-in-a-nice-way list, etc. All for a short, smug high of "getting one over on you." Just petty. Maybe he turns out to be the next Bernie Madoff, but more than likely he'll just remain some pitiful schlub you can make fun of the then next time someone starts a "strangest encounter thread!"

 

[Dreamer69]

Wait a minute

I just checked your ad and a 1h30 min. indulgence is listed at $260, maybe you made a mistake counting the money especially if they were new bills,

someone has to stand up for the defence, I've literally counted millions, never made mistakes, now with these new bills, I make 50% mistakes.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I just checked your ad and a 1h30 min. indulgence is listed at $260, maybe you made a mistake counting the money especially if they were new bills,

If this is true, then maybe he counted the money, realized Amanda's mathematical error (or the other client's), took the extra $20 (which was really nobody's money) and then used it to tip. If this is true he was not a thief, but merely an enterprising opportunist.

 

[amanda_001s]

Hum, I got tipped from my previous encounter, lol. Is tipping a mathematical mistakes, cause again I just received 200$ for a 1hour session listed at 180$... I really don't get it.
It's still stealing, if someone thinks I deserve a tip why the thief shouldn't be considered as a thief but an enterprising opportunist. This is ridiculous! And I don't think he had the time to count the money, neither does he was allowed.

Next time I'm going somewhere and see a tip, should I take it, cause according to your reasoning, it's really nobody's money ?
Anyways, forget about the amount, it's not important... It could be 5, it could be 100$ what is the best way to deal in such situation? It could even have been a book, a movie, my ereader, who knows

would you have confront him about it, that's was my main question. I'm not concern about the money, but about what to do if the same situation happen again!

 

[Turbodick]

Amanda, to safely store your money at a hotel get a hollowed-out Gideon's bible and put the money inside. The odds of one of your clients looking there are pretty slim.

 

[Merlot]

Hello Amanda,

This is not blaming you. It's about prevention. What the guy did, as you stated it, is inexcusable. There's nothing you did that takes any responsibility off of him. However, you have to always keep in mind how to stop such things from happening as much as you can. You were in a rush. Okay. Still, you don't want to risk your identification, any critical cards (financial, medical, etc), or money. You can't allow an opportunity to be robbed. How much more time would have been lost to take the money with you or hide it where any attempt to steal it would have definitely exposed any attempt to get at it.

If there isn't any safe in the room I take it with me or hide it under places or in places that are too much work or too heavy or too noisy for anyone to bother. You just have to keep your top priorities in mind. I did this even with the escorts I was closest to, one I had seen for years. It can feel dumb, very dumb to go so far no matter who it is, even if she was as trustworthy as anyone, but it spared me the risk, the trouble, and the disappointment that may have been possible. Just don't take the risk.

The $20 was a small lesson. It could have been much worse. Ban the guy and move forward.

@Turbodick: True. We clients know we explode instantly if we touch a Bible.

Good luck,

Merlot

 

[Kummer]

I f I were you Amanda, as much as I think you might have wanted to confront him, I would just let it go and count it as a lesson learned for future encounters. You have no idea what kind of individual you are dealing with. Chances are he will deny anyways and then what? You might insist and he will walk out with or without force.

Consider it a bit "lucky" that you only lost 20$ and next time u will just be more careful.

My two cents.

 

[Lily from Montreal]

No Amanda , if I was in the same situation I would not confront him,even if I had been sure because it is dangerous to escalate, you are isolated in your apartment and you don't know the person...

I've been shortchanged a few time, not stolen from but after a meeting the amount was not all there...I give one chance,especially with the new bills it is very easy to make a mistake but if it is happening again and again then I just stop seeing that person...

Once it was my mistake,I sometime rent for friends and I forgot to take the room money,that time I did mention it after the meeting because he was a dear regular and he told me he had put two piles,one for me and one for the room and I didn't notice it... the maid got a very nice tip that day .

Next time you will have to remember to hide the money, we all make mistakes sweetie ,don't feel bad...

 

[amanda_001s]

Thanks for your advice, a safe seems like the best idea.

I didn't lose any money as he ''tipped'' me. But still, I'm learning a lesson.

Yeah, you're right Lily,
Shortchanged happens a few time too, never blame nobody, mistakes happens. One time a regular of mine forgot the donation, when we both realized, he was on the south shore, he took another appointment the next day, haha. No warn.

But yesterday event made me realize that it could have been anything, a part of me don't want confrontation, no money is worth trouble that can ensue. But the other part of me know that if nobody never do anything these persons will never get theirs lessons.

 

[EagerBeaver]

would you have confront him about it, that's was my main question. I'm not concern about the money, but about what to do if the same situation happen again!

If you were 100% certain that the money came from the pot and not his wallet, then yes, but I don't think you were 100% certain and that is why you reacted as you did.

The guy already knows he can't see you again from your silence in response to his question. What does not make any sense to me is why he would have asked that question while tipping you with your own money. Also, a $20 tip on a $260 session is not terribly impressive, even if it was his own money.

But if as the other poster stated you were left $280 for a session which cost $260 according to your website, it is still possible that this client had the same thought as that poster who looked at your website, counted the money quickly (he may work as a bank teller and they count too fast for me), realized the error, and then took money which in effect was nobody's money, because the client made a mistake in counting resulting in a $20 overpayment. Of course, if the agreement was $280, that is different.

 

[EagerBeaver]

By the ways the situation reminds me of something that happened a month ago at my favorite NYC MP. The rate is $220 for the hour. I saw a lady I had seen before, who works under name Sarah. I left $260 on the table. Sarah counted the money and asked me if I had mistakenly left an extra $40. I said to her "no, it is a tip for you." So she knew it was not a mistaken overpayment, but rather an intended tip. And then she gave me a very good service.

 

[amanda_001s]

I was 100% sure, money was in a round pot, and then after he tooks his clothes a 20$ was out of the pot, strangely placed. No my previous encouter really tipped me, when somebody hand you the donation with a big smile, count it in front of you, add this is for you, I think, not quite sure, but it might be a tip, could be wrong. And EVEN if it wasn't the case, It could have been personnal money, client didn't know, how could he, it's still a theft. I really don't see your point, here. You are at my place, taking something which isn't yours, it's not legit! He gave me the tip when I was playing with the pot looking him straight in the eyes. Didn't want to confront him, but it's a bit passive-agressive.
And a 20$ is maybe not an impressive tip, but it's still more than nothing. You can't judge a gift, come on. A flower, a 5$, a bottle of wine, a 20, a 50$ it's still the a nice attention.