I have never seen a provider count the donation, I always figured they do it while you are in the shower
What's a good tip?
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Some count in front of you to make sure it’s right, some wait for you to be in the shower to count and hide the money.
If someone give me very small bills or coins I would DEFINITELY count in front of him.
large bills are easier... less chances of making a mistake.
Coming out of the shower I always see the envelope on the counter where I put it, I started to take notice of the position of the envelope out of curiosity, most times not in the exact same position, so definitely opened and counted... Don't know if the donation was still in the envelope, probably not in case the guy decides to grab it on the way out...
The ladies I see I have had to remind not to forget the envelope on the table quite a few times.
They don’t bother opening and counting they know me for a long time. I am the one that counts it 3-4 times before leaving home to make sure it is correct lol.
They don’t bother opening and counting they know me for a long time. I am the one that counts it 3-4 times before leaving home to make sure it is correct lol.
4 things can happen when a client likes you:
1. He will book more often because he likes to be with and in you.
2. He will give you more than your rate. He will add more in the envelope or pull extra bills out of his pocket before leaving.
3. He will give you your rate and bring gifts for you.
4. He will send you gift cards or e-transfers in between dates.
It could be a mix of 2 or more points too.
Point 2, 3 and 4 are considered to be tipping (in my book at least)
1. He will book more often because he likes to be with and in you.
2. He will give you more than your rate. He will add more in the envelope or pull extra bills out of his pocket before leaving.
3. He will give you your rate and bring gifts for you.
4. He will send you gift cards or e-transfers in between dates.
It could be a mix of 2 or more points too.
Point 2, 3 and 4 are considered to be tipping (in my book at least)
Let’s say there are two Johns: John A, and John B. Both have set aside 15k to hobby for the year.
John A does a year end analysis and notices he paid an average of $300 per encounter and tipped 15% on top of that. John A ended the year with 43 sessions.
John B also does a year end analysis and notices he paid an average of $300 per encounter and never tipped. John B ended the year with 50 sessions.
Would you rather be John A or John B?
John A does a year end analysis and notices he paid an average of $300 per encounter and tipped 15% on top of that. John A ended the year with 43 sessions.
John B also does a year end analysis and notices he paid an average of $300 per encounter and never tipped. John B ended the year with 50 sessions.
Would you rather be John A or John B?
It depends if you prefer quantity or quality. The SPs would definitely prefer John A!!
I realized that we have a completely different perspective on this hobby.
I value good chemistry, repeats, and longer appointments, which seems to be the opposite of you.
But it’s all good, there’s no right or wrong. To each their own!
Enjoy! Cheers.
Money shouldn’t matter that much. The quality of the encounters should.
That’s why when I read reviews of men spending $120/h having the worst experience of their life, I don’t feel so bad. Cool you saved a lot of money but you still wasted time and money.
Sometimes people have a set amount for fun activities and think “I’ll find cheaper dates so that I can have more for my money. Some end up finding gems, some end up almost traumatized”
P.S: That doesn’t mean higher rates equate better experiences
That’s why when I read reviews of men spending $120/h having the worst experience of their life, I don’t feel so bad. Cool you saved a lot of money but you still wasted time and money.
Sometimes people have a set amount for fun activities and think “I’ll find cheaper dates so that I can have more for my money. Some end up finding gems, some end up almost traumatized”
P.S: That doesn’t mean higher rates equate better experiences
I totally agree. If someone is willing to hobby, it shouldn’t be about trying to get the least expensive encounter.
I know money doesn’t grow on trees, and I value my money as well. But when I hobby, I want to make sure I will have a good time and that it will be a memorable encounter, and spending a bit more or less shouldn’t matter.
I can’t get over these guys that book ladies that advertise ONLY on Leolist. It’s hit and miss, for crying out loud. One lousy experience would traumatize me!!
Some guys are proud when they find ONE hidden gem, even if the rest of the other encounters are awful. I don’t get it, but we all think differently!
I agree with you but I think for some of them the gamble and excitement of finding a gem is part of their enjoyment. In fact, I believe even the risk is part of their hobby.
I couldn’t care less about being A or B, truth is I never tipped an escort and, I kept a few regulars for years. I never sensed any kind of attitude towards getting a tip. They all didn’t even care about it, they enjoyed our time almost as much as I did.
I had tipped a few masseuses and still do it when the girl goes beyond the usual "rules " or standard options.
I think these are nice guidelines if you want to show appreciation to your regular SP. Of course not everyone has the money to afford spoiling us rotten, but little gifts here and there and tokens of appreciation are always appreciated
This is true, and also, these guys are a blessing to the merb community. Because when they write reviews about scams it protects fellow clients obviously but also because these guys are often the ones finding "hidden gems" that everyone then gets to experience without being the one taking a risk on leolist etc.
For example, the reason I'm on merb is because clients who found me on annonce123 and backpage early in my career told me about it!
I agree with you, although higher rates don't equate better experiences, often people have lower rates because they have no choice. If I was a client going to see a companion who charges 120$ the hour I'd give her a massive tip and a present honestly.
I agree with you, although higher rates don't equate better experiences, often people have lower rates because they have no choice. If I was a client going to see a companion who charges 120$ the hour I'd give her a massive tip and a present honestly.
That is well said; I have had great experiences for MANY decades without tipping an escort/dancer concerned.
The Silly Idea of Tipping—In Germany, tipping is just rounding to the nearest dollar; in Asia, it is often considered an insult.
I have never tipped an escort, stripper, etc I think it is a silly thing with a racist history at least in the U.S. They are professional service workers not minimum
wage folks. I respect them as professionals and do not tip.
Tipping in US History, now we are obsessed with it.
Tipping spread after the Civil War as an exploitative measure to keep down wages of newly-freed slaves in service occupations. Pullman was the most notable for its tipping policies. The railroad company hired thousands of Black porters but paid them low wages and forced them to rely on tips to make a living. Critics of tipping argued that it created an imbalance between customers and workers, and several states passed laws in the early 1900s to ban the practice. In “The Itching Palm,” a 1916 diatribe on tipping in America, writer William Scott said that tipping was “un-American” and argued that “the relation
giving a tip is as undemocratic as the relation of master and slave.”
But tipping service workers was essentially built into law by the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act, which created the federal minimum wage that excluded restaurant and hospitality workers. This allowed the tipping system to proliferate in these industries. In 1966, Congress created a “subminimum” wage for tipped workers. The federal minimum wage for tipped employees has stood at $2.13 per hour — lower than the $7.25 federal minimum — since 1991, although many states require higher base wages for tipped employees. If a server’s tips don’t add up to the federal minimum, the law says that the employer must make up the difference. But this doesn’t always happen. Wage theft and other wage violations are common in the service industry. Source: CNN “America has tipping fatigue 12/17/2022
In Canada, as I understand it, only Quebec still has a special lower minimum wage for tipped restaurant servers. In theory and in practice, however, they almost always make much more than the standard minimum wage with the tips they receive.
Dave's answer: OUTLAW tipping makes part of the price of service the same for everyone and forces employers to pay reasonable wages to keep employees.
A lot of people don’t like the idea of tipping in this situation because it’s already expensive.
Some say it’s because it already is too transactional, they don’t want to tip on top of it. That’s something you’d do in a restaurant.
Some people will never tip with money but will maybe do it other ways, by bringing gifts, coffees* or by booking longer session even though they don’t need it**
* you gotta be careful with that. Not every sex worker is comfortable accepting unsealed food/drinks.
**Technically still money but I’ve heard of men booking girls in agencies for 90 mins and leaving after 1h to give them a longer break in between clients.
Slightly off topic but I find the tipping culture out of control. Sometimes I go places and the terminal for payment asks if I want to tip and it makes absolutely no sense. Why would I want to tip in a store? Why would I want to tip the Airbnb host?
I’ve only a handful of times tipped the Uber drivers. I do if they go above and beyond. The ones I’ve tipped had water bottles in a mini fridge, had an iPad behind the headrests so that you could play during a long car ride, they opened my door once arrived at destination. You could tell they made you their priority during the car ride as opposed to making money their priority. So for that I tipped them.
I’ve only a handful of times tipped the Uber drivers. I do if they go above and beyond. The ones I’ve tipped had water bottles in a mini fridge, had an iPad behind the headrests so that you could play during a long car ride, they opened my door once arrived at destination. You could tell they made you their priority during the car ride as opposed to making money their priority. So for that I tipped them.
As much as I don't tip professional sexworkers, I reluctantly do tip at restaurants and Uber, even though I detest the idea.
Like restaurant workers, many Uber drivers don't make much money after costs for their car, etc. Further, their app rates the customer, including whether he is a good tipper, as discussed on an Uber driver forum. Many Uber drivers also will not pick up the program where you can call to get a ride for those who don't have an app. There are mostly elderly in poor health who have lots of help needs and don't usually tip well.
I use Uber a lot - including in Toronto if I have to go DT (I stay in Mississauga) to meet friends and go fed up with the traffic mess, parking etc. I even used Uber in Germany instead of their excellent train system. So I want to have a good grade with Uber and tip even detecting it and justify it since they are not earning high hourly rates of sexwork professionals that do not need tips, and I have never had any raise an issue.
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