why are all the agencies in griffintown??

[2fast2slow]

it seems like every other agency is in griffintown these days...not to mention the amount of independents there. maybe it should be called the new red light district of montreal. I guess the reason is simple, a lot of new high quality empty locations + discretion. The problem is getting there. There is so much construction and little parking...

It is just a little frustrating that all the quality agencies are in one place, and not the least bit spread around the city. There are plenty of densely populated areas around the city with no decent agency: Plateau/mile end, NDG, village, CDN, hochelaga, Petite Patry, VSL,, All those areas just have questionable mps (with a couple of exeptions of course)....The agencies would not be so directly competing with each other that way if they were spread around a bit. In Germany, the brothels, FKKs and what not are spread around the cities, and not all in one place (there are exeptions there too, like the Reaperbahn in Hamburgh but otherwise very true).

Just my 2 cents

 

[jalimon]

Griffingtown is perfect. I prefer it to any other part of the city as subway is walking distance (except if it's january and -73 celcius). And parking is not as bad as you think. Much easier then old Euphoria location!

With all new condo's built into the area it has become a airbnb and temporary location heaven.

Cheers,

 

[CLOUD 500]

The problem is getting there. There is so much construction and little parking...

This is the best... No need to drive... Just take the metro... No headache to drive, no cost to park, no gas cost, and less responsibility.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Griffintown rules, in fact it so rules that property owners market their property as being in Griffintown when it really isn’t. For example, I stayed in an AirBnB “Griffintown” condo which was on the south shore of the Canal. When I mentioned this to a local friend of mine, he mentioned that it was “marketing bullshit”, because Griffintown ends on the north side of the canal. I believe that technically that condo was in Point St. Charles.

Every city has its neighborhood that becomes trendy and swanky to live and do business in. By the way, the restaurant Grinder does not say it’s located in Montreal. Go look at the Grinder business cards. They are located in Griffintown! Why? It sounds swanky.

Griffintown is like the special ice cream flavor of the decade. It’s on a much smaller scale comparable to what Brooklyn is to New York City, or what Willamsburg is to Brooklyn. Residents of Willamsburg do not live in NYC. They don’t live in Brooklyn. Fuck that! They live in Williamsburg. It’s the same with Griffintown.

As I said elsewhere, don’t be surprised if Griffintown, like Westmount, secedes from Montreal and becomes independent, much like a popular girl leaving a big agency.

 

[2fast2slow]

This is the best... No need to drive... Just take the metro... No headache to drive, no cost to park, no gas cost, and less responsibility.

not an option for me unfortunately

 

[jalimon]

not an option for me unfortunately

Then this can be handy: https://en.parkopedia.ca/parking/montreal/
When you circle around, good to know where is your quick plan B

Cheers,

 

[smuler]

Every street there had parking aplenty. Lots of abandoned warehouses in the area then. Now the area looks nothing like it did 20 years ago

I have been riding my bicycle every trip along the Lachine Canal for years.. I am sure you remember that the homeless had many places that they camped out back then..I wonder where they were pushed to ?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/G...b7bebfeb24821c!8m2!3d45.4914207!4d-73.5605322

I remember the opening of Joe Beef and Burgundy Lion closer to Little Burgundy along with Dilallo ..people used to ask me, why are you going all the way down there to eat ? :eyebrows:

Best Regards
Smuler

 

[Rinzler]

Street parking may be difficult at times, but some indoor parking options in that area.

 

[jalimon]

For most incall there metro Bonaventure via place du canada is shorter Walking distance.

 

[hungry101]

A better question is why are all the Griffontownians in agencies?

 

[jalimon]

True, you can take the St.Antoine exit from Bonaventure. Then walk south along Peel street. I recall the old Dow Planetarium was around the vicinity.

Yep, and on Peel down St-Jaques you have a very convenient SAQ store with many nice white/rose wine to bring to the lovely lady

Cheers,

 

[Meta not Meta]

My favourite is a 4 or 5 minute walk from metro station Bonaventure (Rue Cathedrale exit) ....

 

[Behaved]

I can’t for the life of me figure out why some in the West part of the Old Port (ie. King, Duke, Queen streets) advertise Griffintown location? I would think the Old Port would be far more appealing. Those on St.Patrick Street advertising Griffintown location are definitely trying to pull a fast one.

I think the Old Port would be seen as more...touristy. And a significant number of people like feeling special for finding ''that little hole in the wall on an off street''. Griffintown is up an coming, it's just a better association, with the restaurants, art places, etc.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I can’t for the life of me figure out why some in the West part of the Old Port (ie. King, Duke, Queen streets) advertise Griffintown location? I would think the Old Port would be far more appealing. Those on St.Patrick Street advertising Griffintown location are definitely trying to pull a fast one.

EG,

In short, there are 2 reasons why this type of marketing of property is so prevalent: (1) there are no real geographical boundaries for these neighborhoods; and (2) what group of consumers you are marketing to will determine which neighborhood you say you are in.

With regard to (1) above, I had a conversation with a local about the subject a long time ago, and he said to me, "where does Hell's Kitchen in New York City begin and where does it end? It's the same thing with Griffintown. These neighborhoods are amorphously defined, with no rigid geographical boundaries."

With regard to (2), AirBnB condo owners are clearly marketing to tourists. While I was initially angered by the technical misrepresentation of the marketing of a condo on the south shore of the Canal, looking out on it, as being in "Griffintown" rather than Point St. Charles, after I walked through and surveyed the area, I understood the marketing. There are designated bicycle and jogger/runner paths on the south shore of the canal, between the condos and the canal, which are very attractive to tourists. Furthermore, as you walk south deeper into Point St. Charles, you get a different neighborhood, clearly. So I could kind of understand why he extended Griffintown's boundary to the immediate south shore, even though the canal and northern shore are, according to Griffintownians, the "true" geographical boundary separating Griffintown and Point St. Charles.

On this same point, Priceline has created a New York neighborhood called "Times Square South." There is no such neighborhood. It extends south almost to Madison Square Garden, and back in November I got the Crowne Plaza on 36th Street between 8th and 9 Avenues, in this supposed neighborhood. Technically, this could be considered "Hells Kitchen South." But to a British or Australian tourist booking a hotel, "Hells Kitchen South" doesn't mean shit. "Times Square South", on the other hand, sounds like it's near Times Square and maybe on the fringe. It is near, but not in Times Square. It's just marketing in this modern e-commerce economy.

Getting back to Griffintown, I like staying there, especially in the summer months. There is a lot of action now on Notre Dame. I went for breakfast to Burgundy Lion, lunch at Grinder, and dinner at the Mexican place on the same block as Burgundy Lion, name of which escapes me. You can be right near this area staying in that condo I mentioned. I stayed in yet another Griffintown condo this past summer, also got it on AirBnb, around 4 blocks south of Bell Centre. These condos are all pretty new and available at very, very reasonable prices for 2 plus tourists. So what is not to like about it?

And if tourists are renting these condos cheap, what do you think locals are able to do who know where the cheaper rents are? There is a large number of newer condo properties in Griffintown. Supply and demand. You overbuild new condos in one neighborhood and guess what happens? Cheap prices and tourists are stimulated to go there.

 

[2fast2slow]

i love Griffintown too on so many levels...and I understand why an agency would want to establish themselves there. I think Griffintown offers a level of discretion no other neighborhood could due to the large number of buildings that are filled with either tourists or plainly empty because they are owned by speculators.

I guess my point was all the truly GOOD QUALITY INCALL agencies (and there are by my count only 6), 4 are in griffintown, one in saint henri (almost same thing) and the other in the heart of downtown (even more difficult to get to). All concentrated within a couple of kilometers of each other. Would it not be in their own interest to spread out even just a little bit? I have been to many german cities and the FKKs and Brothels are way spread out, they dont directly compete with each other geographically.

The way I see it one should be in the heart of downtown, one slightly east of downtown (village or hochelaga), one slightly west of dowtowm (NDG), one slightly north of downtown (mile end or Plateau or near the 40/15) and one slightly south , like Griffintown

 

[EagerBeaver]

The way I see it one should be in the heart of downtown, one slightly east of downtown (village or hochelaga), one slightly west of dowtowm (NDG), one slightly north of downtown (mile end or Plateau or near the 40/15) and one slightly south , like Griffintown

In a perfect world if all rents were the same, maybe there would be. But location is just one factor. The predominant factors are rent affordability and discretion. As you mentioned, some of these condo buildings were heavily invested in by speculators, and many of them are empty. I stayed in that condo on the south shore of the canal in August 2016, and the building was empty. Would have been really easy to run an incall there. The building had secured entry but no doorman. Was close to Metro Station, also easily accessible by bicycle (building right on bike path) and would have been perfect for an incall. A lot of these buildings are newer, and have very good electronic security infrastructure.

 

[neverbored]

Thinking back to MTLtopgirls, i think they just saw a great opportunity to buy some condos and found a pretty safe way to finance them.

 

[henri007]

and some agencies are near police stations as well. Are they not affraid?