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Would you ever teach about this....?

What would you do? Teach them?

  • Share your life experience about woman?

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • Teach them PUA Technique / Learn the Game?

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Teach them MGTOW philosophy about woman?

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Teach and show the SP/MP hobby lifestyle?

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Let them figure it out?

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • Teach them a combination of all of them?

    Votes: 3 37.5%

  • Total voters
    8

CoolSin000

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Hello everyone,

After reading through several hobbyist commenting on, "Way of Living" (https://merb.cc/xenforo/threads/way-of-living.161799/page-2), and "Falling in love with your SP/MP" (https://merb.cc/xenforo/threads/falling-in-love-with-your-sp-mp.195635/page-6#post-1295647). It got me thinking about whether or not I should pass my knowledge, and my experiences to my kids, my nephews, friends et cetera.

A little back story about my life before I enter this hobby. When I was growing up, my dad and my older male cousins never taught me how to talk to girls, how to party and meet girls in the real world. Which I find it really strange because my parents - they LOVE to have fun, party and go out on multiple dates with the opposite sex.

But once my parents have kids - they become conservative (maybe because they are Asian?), and they don't want me to party and go out to socialize with friends. Once I enter University life, I had trouble to communicate with people (especially around girls), and I have a hard time socializing with people in any environment.

For me to solve this lack of knowledge about girl/find a girlfriend, I found, read and learn some of the Pickup Artist (PUA) manual/techniques (NOTE: I download the manual and didn't get a PUA teacher), The Art of Seduction, How to communicate effectively or How to win friends and influence people et cetera. Although, I didn't have much success with the ladies but I learn to effectively communicate with a lot of people or make small talks with people. But it's very superficial - nothing in-depth; which I could not make any connections with any of the girls. So, no passion and almost no romantic interest.

After my parents have divorced, - my parents starts to encourage me to meet, and socializing with other people. As I have failed to mention that, my dad is a womanizer. He loves to meet woman but he never taught me anything about "The Game" or "The Art of seduction". Until these last two years, when I start my hobby two years ago that's when my dad start to tech me a bit of, "how to woo the ladies". NOTE: I think my dad actually encourages me to seek an SP; which I pretend I'm not interested or didn't know anything about the world of SP/MP.

Indeed, after several fail attempts to find another gf after my breakup - which I have stated on my other topic "What's your story for seeing an SP/being in this hobby?" (https://merb.cc/xenforo/threads/whats-your-story-for-seeing-an-sp-or-being-in-this-hobby.195401/) - I almost got into MGTOW (Men going their own way) before I start this hobby. Which I found this hobby really save me from a spiral of depression.

So, my question to you is, "would you ever teach/mentor your kids/nephews/younger brothers or friends about your experience(s) when they are struggling to meet girls?"

If you do mentor them - how would you start off the topic - through your personal life experience, PUA technique, MGTOW, SP/MP Hobby or let them figure it out?
 
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Fradi

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No I would not.
They all have wives girlfriends and seem happy in their relationships. They are not struggling at all and I don’t know why some guys today can’t get their shit together when it comes to dating.
I have shown a blurred photograph of my ATF to 3 of my friends that I know and play golf with for over 25 years, this was to stop them trying to introduce me to their wives girlfriends, ex coworkers and feeling sorry for me. I was getting fed up of giving excuses not to meet them.
It certainly did the trick now we can play golf and get back to beer and normal conversation.
 

Numerati

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I will definitely teach this to my son of course. As for friends and kids of others. Nope. Not my concern unless they come and ask me.

Yet I will not teach him how to pick up women and the choices above. I will teach him the importance of women coming to him. If you have to go to her you have already lost because you are not ready.

Health. Wealth. Be your best self. You have all these three figured out you would not be one of those MGTOW, PUA or whatever social label being used.

Never be in debt. Never depend on a job as your main source of income. Learn how to speculate and manage risk. Manage/Control your greed. Know when to walk away. The power of mental math. ----- These are some of the things I will teach and instill in my children.
 
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bamjay

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This is a tough one.

In my personal experience, most men are actually quite resistant or unwilling to being red pilled and prefer to live in their fantasy world, or are somehow happy with their good old regular family life and that's all they want out of life until they retire and can see their grand kids grow up. And there is nothing wrong with that.

A lot of that stuff you list out about pick-up, game, keeping frame, and so forth, is all fake bullshit if you ask me.

Also stuff like the MGTOW manosphere and everything around it is strongly misogynistic, anti-women, full of resentful and spiteful men, which is not a good thing either.

The best thing any man can do is constantly work on himself physically, mentally educate himself, develop self-discipline, strong hygiene, a good wardrobe and grooming, as well as build the best life and career he can for HIMSELF without the ultimate goal of attaining pussy or anything else. Once you start caring about yourself as a man, do your thing, turn yourself into the best version of yourself that you can be, you will have more admiration and attention of women (and men!) than you can handle. The #1 mistake a lot of men make is to do things for women, or for the prospect of potentially getting women, instead of doing things with the only intention of bettering themselves and becoming the best they can be. I don't know if I can post this here, but the obvious place to start digging into this philosophy is https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/
 

jh000

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After reading through several hobbyist commenting on, "Way of Living" (https://merb.cc/xenforo/threads/way-of-living.161799/page-2), and "Falling in love with your SP/MP" (https://merb.cc/xenforo/threads/falling-in-love-with-your-sp-mp.195635/page-6#post-1295647). It got me thinking about whether or not I should pass my knowledge, and my experiences to my kids, my nephews, friends et cetera.

Young Padwan: I would not encourage anyone to hobby until they are at least 35. Your kids, nephews may be too young for the hobby world.
 
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Christian32

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Young Padwan: I would not encourage anyone to hobby until they are at least 35. Your kids, nephews may be too young for the hobby world.
I don't agree, I think any guy 18th birthday gift should be a 1h with an SP gift card. At least for those that are not women magnets.

Seeing an SP has so many benefits, at least for me:
- It makes me more confident with women in general and teaches me about them
- It keeps me, at least tiny bit, away of porn
- It prevents me from getting into a bad relationship (ok, that idea of dating an SP was bad, but not as bad as dating a girl that I was not finding attractive.... just for bad sex)
 

jh000

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I don't agree, I think any guy 18th birthday gift should be a 1h with an SP gift card. At least for those that are not women magnets.

It's pretty addictive :) I am not the OP. The OP can certainly teach his kids/nephews about the hobby. He came here to ask for our opinion. It's not good to get addicted to SP at an early age when you are not making good income. Even when you are older, you can also get addicted (I learned the hard way).
 

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Guys, really. Women aren’t inanimate objects with Make Me Smile and Make My Vagina Wet buttons that someone has knowledge of the location of the buttons.

Just because there is a cottage industry of anonymous authors claiming knowledge doesn’t make it so.

I suspect that an older male has very little to offer a younger male regarding modern-day pickups and even modern-day relationships.

One of my favorite critics, Adam Corolla, often says that if a lady is interested in a guy, he can pick her up at the double funeral of her parents. I suspect he is correct, and that women drive the dating process more than men, especially in today’s world.

Male friends within a peer group who have success with women are a much better source of information than an older relative. That guy has contacts with single women and their friends. Noticing how that guy acts may be beneficial, but being part of that group is the most beneficial thing of all.

If you notice closely, many involved parents pay a lot of attention to getting their kids into the best possible peer group, including sports and other extracurricular activities. And kids in families with other children have some innate advantages - you will learn more from an older brother than a dad or uncle who barely know how to text on a phone.

As far as helping someone younger with this particular activity, how is that even possible. A person of any age can easily find Merb, TER, and ISG and read away.
 

Anwar

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In my opinion, it's more important to learn to be friends with women before learning to seduce them. This is not something that can be learned off a book. If someone is too awkward to befriend any girl at all, he could always take an escort out on a dinner date and get the wheels rolling. The media and porn indoctrinate a lot of bad ideas into men about how women think and how relationships work. Actually talking to women without an ulterior motive of getting into their pants is a good first step towards detox.

Women definitely do not have a "Make me horny" button but in my experience, remembering anniversaries and making big romantic gestures every now and then is the closest you can get to pushing that button :D
 

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I don’t think that your dad’s womanizing is a good attribute. OPP (other people’s pussy) is a bad vice and it is addictive. No one likes a womanizer except another womanizer that needs a wingman. This is like two alcoholics. Only a drunk likes another drunk. Maybe your dad wasn’t proud of his vice and didn’t want you to be like him? It likely led to your parents break up. What’s he suppose to do? Hey Jr. This is how I seduced Mrs. Johnson at the block party.


As for the hobby, I’m torn. If my son or nephew was engaged to be married or married, I would want them to be content with what they have. Otherwise, they will likely end up like your parents. If I helped him pry off the lid of Pandora’s box I could be contributing to what could be a very bad habit. On the other hand, I would want them to understand about LE stings and rip-offs that come with BP and CL type adds. I would want them to know that you don’t have to pay 800$ USD/hour for good roll in the hay.