XO - Rates going up?

[ShyMan]

I'll pay it and it may be necessary but I'm not going to applaud it.

Like others, I agree with you. No one wants to pay anymore money than they have to.

As I said previously, seeing an escort is a luxury; we can always jerk off. (I think it's idiotic for anyone to pay C$3,000+ for a Louis Vuitton handbag.) I imagine we will all become more selective as to who we see. Thus, let's hope guys write more reviews. The good providers will get more bookings and the poor-performers will retire, get "fire", join other agencies, or go independent. Supply and demand. No amount of ass-kissing by anyone will change market forces.

I don't need to kiss anyone's ass (except the SP's asses that I find attractive). My monies, limited as they are, do the talking for me. It's not ass-kissing to encourage someone like Sam to endeavor to elevate and to luxuriate the Hobby in Montreal.

 

[Rinzler]

The dinning table and chairs are very comfortable, the red velvet curved chaise lounger is fabulous and the bed is solid for vigorous actions.

i couldnt care less about the decor. the xo condos ive been in thus far were perfectly fine like the euphoria ones. and tbh i preferred euphoria's old haunts. while not luxurious they were adequately furnished, clean, easy to get to, with many stores and other amenities nearby. the euphoria girl ive met most recently misses that place

when i get in touch with an agency, its because i want to spend some quality time for one hour with one of their girls. thats it. not because the decor of the condo could be featured in House and Home. as long as its clean and functional, im happy, and it shouldnt be a decisive factor in whether or not im going to have a great time. ive had my share of encounters at the old GoodGirls incalls during the glory days of that agency. some of those units were pretty close to being dumps with nothing more than mattress on the floor in one of them, and that didn't stop me and the ladies i met to have a blast

if the $10 entirely goes to the girls, fine, i guess it must be what's required to recruit and retain top talent in this market. ill adjust my hobbying accordingly. if sam thinks its worthwhile to spend on the decor, thats his decision. his agency and his condos after all

how some of you guys are enthusiastically getting on board with this rate increase and getting excited about new furniture is however quite puzzling

 

[ShyMan]

how some of you guys are enthusiastically getting on board with this rate increase and getting excited about new furniture is however quite puzzling

You may like potato, I like tomato. We all have different taste in ladies and the clothes, cookware and furniture we chose to buy. When it comes down to it, a man can fuck a hole in the wall, as the saying goes. And god created men with two hands so we can use both hands to masturbate. It's your money Rinzler and you can take your business anywhere you want, or keep them in your bank account. The point is we all have a choice. Mine is not worse than yours. Whether to see escorts and which escorts to see is each person's puzzle to solve.

 

[tonyw]

I know I won't be able to see any girls sooner or later, when price goes beyond the limit. I guess many people here like me can't afford any more indies, with new rates of 350-400h, so hope that agency rates wouldn't increase. (note salaries in Montreal are lower than other cities).
Why not open another thread called "Indy rates going up"? It would be interesting to discuss. They boil up the market recently, and many agency girls want to leave, and agencies will have more difficulty to convince the girls to stay.

 

[DavidCan]

Well ... far be it from me to want to spend more $$$ that I have to .... I am not suggesting a $100 increase - even if the “best” agency girls do deserve it (and many Indy girls in Montreal ... of questionable quality already get $300 to $350! My point is that rates in Montreal are a great deal in Canada and internationally (particularly when adjusted for quality). We should not begrudge a small $10 increase ... its nothing (and most commenters here seem to agree) ! I understand increases are difficult for some out there - but “escorts” are a luxury good - not a necessity - l find the arguement that “poor” clients are no longer able to partake in this luxury a bit hard to take (particularly $10). Markets will set the rates based on many factors - but a vibrant industry in Montreal does need to compete particularly with Toronto! I am sure a good proportion of the girls in Toronto originate in Montreal and they were attracted by $$$! I think there are many of you in Merb that visit from Ontario and the USA that recognize the value received in Montreal - that’s why you keep coming! I just don’t think it’s sustainable at such differentials!

 

[RoyDeMeo]

It's only 10$/hour and if it goes to better facilities for the incall or even if it goes to retaining girls that's ok.

The raise is for the girls the better incalls is for the clients n girls, good for girls good for clients. 10$ is nothing but 50-100 increase from indy they do what they want but will keep me away even more and David can continue spending 300-400 but not me

I'm soon not able to handle a long session ! Diner date or multiple hours may not affordable anymore ! Really bad ..!

You book high end australian escort and multi hours with indies like Lea, Florence, Victoria. You coulda booked victoria at XO at 220h instead of 350h.. booking multi hour with agency is still cheaper than discounted long hour indy rate. That decision is on you maybe you could still see more girls now if you spent more wisely book the agency girls that david mention that people like you would pay 300-400 for but are at 220, now 230 not a big difference lol

 

[kellie]

Hi everyone,
I have been working with xo for a little over a year now, and i can also confirm that the 10$ goes directly to us, The agency is buying new furniture and we now have wifi wich is really helpful for a student like me ! I can now study online when i am not with a gentlemen, also, you should never feel obligated to leave a tip. It is always appreciated but not expected, so even if you pay only the 230, we are happy

I would also add that more furniture is also great since we girls spend a long part of our day in these condos. Maybe you are only there for an hour but we eat, shower, dance, nap sometimes (oops) and everthing people would do in their everyday life in the condos. I think Sam really listened to us girls and i am really happy about it

 

[gaby]

Thanks Kellie for your sweet comment...i really appreciate.

 

[nycbadboy128]

Thank you Kellie for your reply. It is appreciated and comforting to know that.

 

[ShyMan]

I would also add that more furniture is also great since we girls spend a long part of our day in these condos. . . .we eat, shower, dance, nap sometimes (oops) and everthing people would do in their everyday life in the condos.

Thank you Kellie for giving us some insights.

I'm glad you ladies can take naps in the condos because napping helps re-energize you ladies for more fun and games with your subsequent clients. Ooh, you ladies dance in the condos when we are not there, exciting

Heck, I used to nap in the libraries when I was going to school. A nicer work place makes everyone happier.

 

[charmer_]

It's only 10$/hour and if it goes to better facilities for the incall or even if it goes to retaining girls that's ok. But there is something wrong here and I can't quite put my finger on it. It is the way some of you sound. You seem anxious to pay more. Excuse me if I don't get on the band wagon and applaud higher rates. I don't feel that I'm taking advantage of anyone at 220$-240$/hour. Really? +100$ hour is still a deal? I hope he makes a special rate for you DavidCan. 350$/ hour. Excuse me but if I didn't know better you guys sound like a bunch of ass kissers. I'll pay it and it may be necessary but I'm not going to applaud it.

Hungry's on point here. First off, I hate it when white knights come on comparing Montreal's rate with rates everywhere else and then have the nerve to congratulate a given agency on how good a choice it was for the increase. What a bunch of kiss-asses. The cost of living is much different here than, say Toronto (or Vancouver, NYC, etc). So it's a moot point, imho. However if DavidCan wants to to pay an extra $100 for his SPs, then maybe he should, lol.

I saw the message from XO stating that the increase is due to the new renovations on the incalls. However XO has some of the best incalls in Montreal already. I don't think any more improvements need to be made. And adding internet service? Cmon...that's not a big expense. I'm surprised they didn't have it already.

$10 isn't that much...but that's how it starts. Then it adds to another $10...then another...etc. I think the increase from $200 to $220 was only 1-2 years ago, if I'm not mistaken.

Anyways like Hungry said: i'll pay it if there's a girl I really want to see from there, but I'm not about to heap praise over it either.

 

[AdeleBeaumont]

While I agree with some of you who were saying that you dont visit a lady for the home decor, it makes total sense that incall agencies want to offer a minimum of comfort to their ladies. Think about it, some girls can be there for 5 to 8 hours. What are they supposed to do when they have no appointments? Or if they want to eat or just take a nap.

$10 can be seen as a big increase for many but it's still cheaper than most indy in this city (please let's not talk about other cities, let alone other countries)

 

[The Nature Boy]

I’ve never done Incall in MTL because of work. Now after reading all the cool stuff that will be coming to the incalls, I’m excited! I wouldn’t mind paying $230 to sit back and enjoy Streamed game of thrones on a big screen Samsung with superb WiFi with the likes of Lina! Shit, I’ll even bring the beer!

PS. game of thrones-never watched that shit in my life, but now I will!

CDN $10 to me in the grand scheme of things is no biggie, whether it goes to better incalls or the chicas, maybe this price increase will help some realize what they take for granted...

 

[charmer_]

While I agree with some of you who were saying that you dont visit a lady for the home decor, it makes total sense that incall agencies want to offer a minimum of comfort to their ladies. Think about it, some girls can be there for 5 to 8 hours. What are they supposed to do when they have no appointments? Or if they want to eat or just take a nap.

There's nothing worse than staying in a dump (ie. the incalls from GoodGirls, lol). But in XO's case, they have great incalls already (they're pretty luxurious).

I definitely agree that they should probably add the internet (can't surf on your phone forever...those data charges add up). But I don't necessarily think that its a sufficient reason for a $10 increase.

 

[ShyMan]

Extra, extra, read all about it: The Price of One Condom Increased by C$10.

Even if the rate increased by 25 cents, some Johns will be very unhappy, stay home, watch (free) porn, and spank the monkey.

I will be streaming CNN, CTV News, TSN, reruns of GOT's, Spotify, and free porn simultaneously during my sessions at any incall that provides free WiFi. I can multi-task and I'm know the SP's in Montreal can do likewise.

In fairness, C$10 is a good amount of money, especially when most workers' wages have remained stagnant for years. But seeing an escort that provides true GFE action is a luxury. There's always the option of cruising around for some street action and negotiating with SW's for the lowest possible donation.

 

[charmer_]

I’ve never done Incall in MTL because of work. Now after reading all the cool stuff that will be coming to the incalls, I’m excited! I wouldn’t mind paying $230 to sit back and enjoy Streamed game of thrones on a big screen Samsung with superb WiFi with the likes of Lina! Shit, I’ll even bring the beer!

Yeah okay there buddy...time isn't free. You're gonna pay $230/hr just to watch Game of Thrones with a SP? I don't think so.

Not sure if they'll have a TV. The only thing that could be cool would be to use it to play porn in the background, maybe. But it's not worth having if rates go up because of it, imho.

 

[cloudsurf]

Nature Boy with all these new and exiting distractions when are you going to find time for sex ?.....funny guy...lol
BTW while XO is at it they should put a dance pole in every room as well so the girls can build their 6 packs.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I can’t get too worked up about it. Sam gave his reasons, which were legitimate business reasons. Anyone can conduct their business as they see fit. I suspect the thread hits and publicity XO received from this thread will create more business than it loses, and also Sam posting the reasoning behind his decision may earn him additional credit in the community. In the unlikely event this decision causes him to lose money, he would also be free to reverse it and drop rates. I suspect he will not lose any net business over it.

While I don’t applaud any price increases, they are as inevitable as death and taxes.

 

[charmer_]

I will be streaming CNN, CTV News, TSN, reruns of GOT's, Spotify, and free porn simultaneously during my sessions at any incall that provides free WiFi. I can multi-task and I'm know the SP's in Montreal can do likewise.

What makes you think clients will have access to their wi-fi? More than likely, it'll probably be locked down and only accessible to the SPs (and staff) only. Unless they do have a TV (which I still haven't seen officially mentioned), and you want to waste your time watching it instead of fucking.

Don't assume anything, until it's stated.

 

[ShyMan]

While I don’t applaud any price increases, they are as inevitable as death and taxes.

Spoken like a true Hobbyist and a Free-Marketer/Capitalist. Besides you can't take your money with you after you're dead.