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    Bradley Manning gets 35 years in U.S. WikiLeaks case

    There is something I don't understand.

    Bradley Manning, that is only crime was to reveal military secret to the public via Wikileaks get 35 years of jail time.
    Bradley Manning gets 35 years in U.S. Wikileaks case

    And the average jail time for rape in the US is 5 years.
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    For me rape is way worst crime than revealing secret to the public.

    Can someone explain this to me, because I can't make sense of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iznogoud View Post
    Can someone explain this to me, because I can't make sense of it.
    Simple, he was made an example of because every government maintains classified information and anarchy would prevail if a light sentence was given. No information would ever remain classified and people would simply act on petty grievances, knowing they would not get punished severely.

    Secret shit is supposed to remain secret, and when it doesn't someone has to pay.

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    Sounds about right. I'm surprised he didn't get life.
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    I can understand that the American government want to make an example out of it....but it's to the judge to decide the amount of jail time.

    The judge need to be neutral....he can't take any side....he need to hear both party and give the sentence regarding the crime

    For me that judge did obey the government order to make an example out of it. For that he was not neutral and should be dismiss of his role of judge.

    Also if I follow that logic....it's not important to give example to rapist, just to people who tell government secret. (5 years compare to 35 years)

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    I would have shot him for treason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iznogoud View Post
    The judge need to be neutral....he can't take any side....he need to hear both party and give the sentence regarding the crime...
    Hello Iznogoud,

    That he leaked military secrets is indisputable no matter how neutral the judge might be theoretically. With terrorism being an imminent threat with recent examples do you really think creating a threat to the lives of dozens or hundreds, or possibly an intelligence network is the same as a rape. Don't forget this could involve the lives of Canadian allies and many other nationals. He's lucky he has his life.

    I agree with EB, it's a great lesson for others who take this lightly.

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    I never said that he shouldn't be punished for what he done....I'm just saying that 35 years is way too much

    for me rapist should be punished more than what he did

    so if a rapist got 5 years jail time, he should have receive less than that

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    He will have the presidential pardon at the end of the term of president 3 years from now.

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    Also Bradley Manning was found not guilty of aiding the enemy in WikiLeaks case.

    He only reveal crime that his goverment was doing to Wikileaks

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    It is not appropriate to compare this crime to that of a rapist as the scope of the harm is much wider. There is a national and international impact and many victims rather than one. The sentence given was appropriate or even lean. You cannot commit this kind of treason and get a few years, then people would sell the secrets, do the time and live like Kings when they get out. Then we are one step away from complete anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonpaul View Post
    He will have the presidential pardon at the end of the term of president 3 years from now.
    That will never happen in a million years. He will not be pardoned. There will be controversial pardons at the end of Obama's term but not this one. The people who will get pardoned by Obama are people who will help the next Democrat get elected President. In other words rich and powerful criminals. This guy is a nobody. And you do not piss off the entire US military. Not happening!!!
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    Scooter Libby, who outed a CIA spy, has a better chance of getting pardoned than Bradley Manning. Wait. Wasn't he pardoned already by Bush?

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    Scooter Libby was not pardoned, his sentence was commuted by Bush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deboner View Post
    Scooter Libby was not pardoned, his sentence was commuted by Bush.
    Ah, good of Mr. Bush for not sending this crook to prison! He probably didn't want Libby to spill the beans on what actually happened & who (Karl Rove and Dick Cheney) was behind the whole thing, which was likely never sanctionned by Bush himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deboner View Post
    Scooter Libby was not pardoned, his sentence was commuted by Bush.
    He was commuted due to having followed orders of others who were not punished. It is a totally irrelevant case. The Manning case involves a nobody gay soldier with no money and no influence to support Obama's hand picked successor in 2016. He ain't getting pardoned, period and end of story.

    Obama's pardons will go to those who can grant favors with money or influence once out of prison. The list of potential pardonees ahead of Manning is about a million.

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