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The "Michael Jordan" of Soccer was another Portuguese.... Eusebio was the total package!
2018 FIFA World Cup
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Nash should stay in the bleachers...
The "Michael Jordan" of Soccer was another Portuguese.... Eusebio was the total package!
Nominees for the 2018 FIFA Best Player Award announced:
Cristiano Ronaldo (POR) - Real Madrid
Kevin De Bruyne (BEL) - Manchester City
Antoine Griezmann (FRA) - Atletico Madrid
[FONT=&]Eden Hazard (BEL) - Chelsea
Harry Kane (ENG) - Tottenham Hotspur
Kylian Mbappe (FRA) - Paris Saint-Germain
Lionel Messi (ARG) - Barcelona
Luka Modric (CRO) - Real Madrid
Mohamed Salah (EGY) - Liverpool
Raphael Varane (FRA) - Real Madrid
No surprises and no arguments from me on the list of nominees. I've already cast my vote at Fifa.com: Kevin De Bruyne is my pick.[/FONT]
Cristiano Ronaldo (POR) - Real Madrid
Kevin De Bruyne (BEL) - Manchester City
Antoine Griezmann (FRA) - Atletico Madrid
[FONT=&]Eden Hazard (BEL) - Chelsea
Harry Kane (ENG) - Tottenham Hotspur
Kylian Mbappe (FRA) - Paris Saint-Germain
Lionel Messi (ARG) - Barcelona
Luka Modric (CRO) - Real Madrid
Mohamed Salah (EGY) - Liverpool
Raphael Varane (FRA) - Real Madrid
No surprises and no arguments from me on the list of nominees. I've already cast my vote at Fifa.com: Kevin De Bruyne is my pick.[/FONT]
Pogba Upset By Mourinho Criticism, May Leave United
http://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-t...unsettled-by-jose-mourinhos-criticism-sources
This story highlights what I think is a major difference between professional soccer and other other professional sports that occur in North America. In North America, it's very rare that a head coach will publicly criticize a star player, even though the criticism may be warranted. In soccer it seems to happen a lot more frequently. I am trying to figure out why that is, apart from the cultural differences between the various sports and the media and fanbases that cover them. The recent criticism of Mesut Ozil in the media by myriad respected soccer dignitaries seemed a bit over the top to me, comparatively speaking. One of my theories is that vilification of players in the media may be perceived to be the only way to keep many of these soccer stars, with their oversized egos, in line. I did not see Pogba play for Manchester United last season, but I did see him play for France in the WC and he was a big time player in the World Cup. So if you have a player who is a big time player why not figure out how to push his buttons rather than cause him to want a transfer.
I also think Pogba needs to wear the big boy pants and learn to brush it off. The closest I saw to something like this happening in baseball the last 5 years was when Joe Girardi, then Yankees manager, criticized the defense of star catcher Gary Sanchez late last year. Sanchez, a great hitting catcher, led the American League in passed balls and showed poor technique blocking balls in the dirt, although in fairness to him he has to catch a lot of filthy sliders with the staff the Yankees have. Passed balls will happen with such pitchers. However Girardi was far more gentle in his criticism of Sanchez than Mourinho was in his criticism of Pogba.
If you guys were coaching Pogba, how would you handle him to get the best out of him, consistently?
http://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-t...unsettled-by-jose-mourinhos-criticism-sources
This story highlights what I think is a major difference between professional soccer and other other professional sports that occur in North America. In North America, it's very rare that a head coach will publicly criticize a star player, even though the criticism may be warranted. In soccer it seems to happen a lot more frequently. I am trying to figure out why that is, apart from the cultural differences between the various sports and the media and fanbases that cover them. The recent criticism of Mesut Ozil in the media by myriad respected soccer dignitaries seemed a bit over the top to me, comparatively speaking. One of my theories is that vilification of players in the media may be perceived to be the only way to keep many of these soccer stars, with their oversized egos, in line. I did not see Pogba play for Manchester United last season, but I did see him play for France in the WC and he was a big time player in the World Cup. So if you have a player who is a big time player why not figure out how to push his buttons rather than cause him to want a transfer.
I also think Pogba needs to wear the big boy pants and learn to brush it off. The closest I saw to something like this happening in baseball the last 5 years was when Joe Girardi, then Yankees manager, criticized the defense of star catcher Gary Sanchez late last year. Sanchez, a great hitting catcher, led the American League in passed balls and showed poor technique blocking balls in the dirt, although in fairness to him he has to catch a lot of filthy sliders with the staff the Yankees have. Passed balls will happen with such pitchers. However Girardi was far more gentle in his criticism of Sanchez than Mourinho was in his criticism of Pogba.
If you guys were coaching Pogba, how would you handle him to get the best out of him, consistently?
Sam21,
I had not thought of it that way and that is a pretty good explanation. I do believe you are correct that the egos of the American athlete, which are probably just as big, do seem to get controlled better without the public vilification of the athlete. We saw this in the NFL ownership colluding to stop the national anthem protests because their investment was being fucked with. Those players have no place else to go- you are correct about their being one league in each of the sports- which is why a guy like Colin Kaeppernik doesn’t have a job even though he is clearly an above average backup NFL QB and could likely start for some NFL teams, depending on the system they are running.
How would you coach Pogba?
I had not thought of it that way and that is a pretty good explanation. I do believe you are correct that the egos of the American athlete, which are probably just as big, do seem to get controlled better without the public vilification of the athlete. We saw this in the NFL ownership colluding to stop the national anthem protests because their investment was being fucked with. Those players have no place else to go- you are correct about their being one league in each of the sports- which is why a guy like Colin Kaeppernik doesn’t have a job even though he is clearly an above average backup NFL QB and could likely start for some NFL teams, depending on the system they are running.
How would you coach Pogba?
Go back to my Posts #795 and #797 in regards to my comments on Pogba. Especially Post #797... Which I got criticized for on this board!
...and maybe now you can understand the type of volatile character Pogba can be!...Pogba plays when he wants to play in a system that best suits him.
...and you coach Pogba like Deschamps coached him in the WC!
...Mourinho is a volatile character as well and a dictator as a coach...not a good recipe for Pogba to be subject to!
...and maybe now you can understand the type of volatile character Pogba can be!...Pogba plays when he wants to play in a system that best suits him.
...and you coach Pogba like Deschamps coached him in the WC!
...Mourinho is a volatile character as well and a dictator as a coach...not a good recipe for Pogba to be subject to!
Pogba is a good player. He has now gained enough experience in different leagues to be labeled as such.
Is he a leader? No, and he never will be!
Is he a leader? No, and he never will be!
..and you coach Pogba like Deschamps coached him in the WC!
Bingo! I asked a loaded question.......this is the correct response I was looking for! I didn’t think I would get the Bingo response so quickly!!!!
I agree, but it is not that simple.There is fame and fortune to be had for him in at least 10 different teams in Europe, that will jump at the chance to open their wallets for him
Maybe so, but if Pogba transfers to Barcelona, Juventus or some other club in the aftermath of these comments by Mourinho, doesn't he look like something of a baby to soccer fans and media all over the world? Is it going to be part of his contract in Barcelona that the manager is not allowed to criticize him?
EB that's the way Pogba was perceived when he exited Juventus years ago!
It was one baby tantrum after another that caused Juventus to get rid of him!
It was one baby tantrum after another that caused Juventus to get rid of him!
"In an interview with ESPN FC two weeks ago, Mourinho questioned why Pogba's performances in Russia were so much better than his displays for United last season."
Perhaps the easy answer is... Kanté?
Playing with a fellow who is a machine of simplicity and precision can surely help Pogba to perform to his best.
Perhaps the easy answer is... Kanté?
Playing with a fellow who is a machine of simplicity and precision can surely help Pogba to perform to his best.
Jalimon,
The totality of the Mourinho commentary on Pogba, as I interpreted it, was that Pogba played harder for France because the World Cup in Russia provided a sheltered environment in which soccer players are forced to solely concentrate on soccer, and are shielded from the usual distractions due to the closed environment, whereas in England for Manchester U, Pogba is relentlessly distracted and can only show up when needed in big matches and not for not so meaningful matches. He basically said that Pogba has focus issues and that the World Cup environment enabled him to flourish because he had nothing but soccer to focus on.
That’s what I took away from what he said.
If you accept the Mourinho commentary at face value, it’s not necessarily a bad thing. I mean, I could say the same thing about Reggie Jackson. There were many times when Reggie played for the Yankees when he lost focus and didn’t play with max effort. He would also sulk. But in his postseason career with the NYY and also with Oakland he proved repeatedly that he was a big time player on the big stage. I see Pogba as a Reggie Jackson of soccer. He saves his best for the biggest stage.
The totality of the Mourinho commentary on Pogba, as I interpreted it, was that Pogba played harder for France because the World Cup in Russia provided a sheltered environment in which soccer players are forced to solely concentrate on soccer, and are shielded from the usual distractions due to the closed environment, whereas in England for Manchester U, Pogba is relentlessly distracted and can only show up when needed in big matches and not for not so meaningful matches. He basically said that Pogba has focus issues and that the World Cup environment enabled him to flourish because he had nothing but soccer to focus on.
That’s what I took away from what he said.
If you accept the Mourinho commentary at face value, it’s not necessarily a bad thing. I mean, I could say the same thing about Reggie Jackson. There were many times when Reggie played for the Yankees when he lost focus and didn’t play with max effort. He would also sulk. But in his postseason career with the NYY and also with Oakland he proved repeatedly that he was a big time player on the big stage. I see Pogba as a Reggie Jackson of soccer. He saves his best for the biggest stage.
Kalinic was a sub-moron who did something that was blatantly insubordinate - refusing to enter a game after he had been benched. Such an action can reasonably be expected to lead to expulsion from any team, and for Kalinic not to have expected his expulsion suggests only one thing, that he thought more of himself than he did of his team.
Pogba, on the other hand, stepped up his game, rose to the challenge, fired up his team with that great pregame speech, and then went out and played great and backed it up. Although some have chosen to attribute Pogba's success to something other than Pogba (his teammates, the manner in which he was deployed, the WC environment), I think he flat stepped up his game. Everyone else in the WC had the same opportunity to step up their games. Kalinic did not do it, a lot of guys did not do it. Pogba did do it. In any sport the guys who shine on the biggest stage in the biggest game, reap the rewards,
Pogba, on the other hand, stepped up his game, rose to the challenge, fired up his team with that great pregame speech, and then went out and played great and backed it up. Although some have chosen to attribute Pogba's success to something other than Pogba (his teammates, the manner in which he was deployed, the WC environment), I think he flat stepped up his game. Everyone else in the WC had the same opportunity to step up their games. Kalinic did not do it, a lot of guys did not do it. Pogba did do it. In any sport the guys who shine on the biggest stage in the biggest game, reap the rewards,
Dele Alli: England's Goal Is To Be #1 In the World
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...hopes-england-aim-recognised-no-1-team-world/
France and Belgium may stand in the way, but Alli believes England will be #1 very soon. They certainly looked good against USA this past week.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...hopes-england-aim-recognised-no-1-team-world/
France and Belgium may stand in the way, but Alli believes England will be #1 very soon. They certainly looked good against USA this past week.
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