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    A few words from FKS Society about recent events

    As a result of a recent STD situation with a lady previously on their team, I exchanged a few emails with FKS management and they wanted me to post the following on their behalf:

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    I recently alerted FKS Members on our private board that there was the possibility that a recently departed independent (she has not advertised with us regularly in the last two months), may be experiencing some sort of STD.

    I did not name the lady's name because I feel it is a matter the lady in question should clarify and resolve herself.

    A few years back, my then partner Melanie Cherie faced a similar situation but in her case the accusation was totally false. She resolved the issue by faxing her test results to the moderator. This is the responsible thing to do!

    While I am worried by the possible consequences, I also mentioned on my post that as grown ups partaking in a hobby that has certain risks, I hoped we were all very aware that the more GFE services one asks for, the chances to catch a disease increased so it should come as no surprise to anyone that it has happened.

    It could happen, and I am sure it does happen on a continuous basis with unprotected services but no one ever thinks of reporting the incidents and warning clients.

    I feel that there is no blame to point at French kiss. I have asked that all ladies currently advertising on both sites get tested which they have done and so far, everyone is in good health!

    I trust that all of you will take care and get tested soon to avoid unpleasant surprises and hope that we all think twice before asking for riskier services next time around.

    Thank you for your time, FKS Management.

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    I'm leaving this thread open for comments, but I would suggest everyone to keep from commenting on who the lady might be until she decides to come forth by herself.

    Thanks

    M7
    Last edited by Mod 7; 05-22-2007 at 02:26 PM.

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    Wasn't there another lady a while ago, from a different agency, where MERB Mods were supposed to let us know of some test results? Look like the thread went dead and results were forgotten... Can't even find the thread!

    How come we hear about this and zip about the other? Does it depends on results or on who's paying to keep them public or private?

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    I think that Giselle and FKS should be thanked for taking the unusual path and doing what they did.

    This is certainly a uncomfortable position to be in and in fact if most of us were in their shoes probably we would opt to keep quiet and deny.

    Unfortunately or fortunately this situation has brought to light what probably happens more often than we clients think, but never hear about.

    Some of us will stop to rethink what we do, services we require and the possibilities, but in reality most will not change their behavior.

    For me more often testing will be part of my repertoire as long as I decide to be here. I also am rethinking what services I will require on my personal menu in the future to feel comfortable.

    Good luck to all
    Last edited by gtadick; 05-22-2007 at 03:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metoo4
    Wasn't there another lady a while ago, from a different agency, where MERB Mods were supposed to let us know of some test results? Look like the thread went dead and results were forgotten... Can't even find the thread!

    How come we hear about this and zip about the other? Does it depends on results or on who's paying to keep them public or private?
    If you remember correctly, there had been unsubstantiated accusations made against the girls. I had proposed to act as a "trustee" to get the results and post about the health condition of the girls. From many public and private discussions, despite my genuine desire to help resolve the situation, it became clear this initiative of mine was not welcome, and also considered one-sided (I had only asked for proof from the girls, not the client). At this point I'll leave it up to the agency owner to post the results. I may also decide to bring the thread back, after reviewing it.

    The issue here is different. We have an STD situation that has been brought to light by the "agency" (FKS). Who that lady is has not been disclosed by FKS or the girl herself, and until she comes forth her identity will remain known to FKS only and whoever they decide to let it be known. Those who want to know more should contact FKS directly. As it's already been posted elsewhere but in other words, in order to remain on the safe side you should go get tested if you have met any FKS lady in the last 3-6 months. In fact whoever has been hobbying with anyone should go get tested on a regular basis regardless.

    The following has been mentioned countless times but I'll repeat again: Advertisers and non-advertisers are handled the same way by the Mods. We don't see the money and we don't care. And by the way, both FKS and Excentrix are advertisers.

    M7

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    Mod7, if a rebuttal isn't provided by the agency or girl, when they had the chance to do so, we can consider this as a proof of guilt and I have no problem considering the accusation to be true.

    Your proposition to act as a "trustee" was a very good idea and was protecting the members and the agency/lady.

    Was it 1 sided? Of course it was. The service is provided by the agency/escort, not by the hobbyist. Last time I checked, If I got sick after ordering take-out at a restaurant, I didn't have to get my house inspected before lodging a complaint and having a follow-up.

    The gains for an agency/lady who comes forward is higher than for the ones who hide. Coming forward and acknowledging a problem build confidence. A simple message from the owner or lady, stating "Whoever've seen Xxxxx in the last 2 months should get tested for zzzzz. Xxxxx will take a few weeks off to cure herself and we are sorry for the inconveniences."

    What bugs me the most is the thread vanishing, unless I didn't search properly. This info should not be hidden, no matter if proven right or not. If no mediation was proposed, if the thread was totally bullshit, I'd say ok, let's hide but, in this case, this is not what's happening. The reader should be the one to take a decision to believe what he want, based of facts exposed. The refusal for any mediation by a Mod is, in my opinion, a very bad sign given by the agency. That refusal should be noted in the thread and the agency should bear consequences.
    Last edited by metoo4; 05-23-2007 at 03:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metoo4
    Mod7, if a rebuttal isn`t provided by the agency or girl, when they had the chance to do so, we can consider this as a proof of guilt and I have no problem considering the accusation to be true.
    Unless the STD has such an incubation period that the guy could have got it from anyone he had sex with in the last 3 months, which is the case for the situation you are referring to. Getting cured and being aware of an infected SP is one thing, destroying the reputation of someone based on hearsay is another.

    I suggest you go reread that thread about free speach and hypocrisy, in which I contributed in regards to that specific situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by metoo4
    The gains for an agency/lady who comes forward is higher than for the ones who hide. Coming forward and acknowledging a problem build confidence. A simple message from the owner or lady, stating "Whoever`ve seen Xxxxx in the last 2 months should get tested for zzzzz. Xxxxx will take a few weeks off to cure herself and we are sorry for the inconveniences."
    I do agree with you on this 100%. FKS did the right thing, and I hope the lady will do the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by metoo4
    The refusal for any mediation by a Mod is, in my opinion, a very bad sign given by the agency. That refusal should be noted in the thread and the agency should bear consequences.
    For the records, the agency didn`t refuse the mediation and gladly accepted to provide the results, but apparently one of the girl vanished and is still nowhere to be found (he told me his web site was not up-to-date and that`s why she is still listed), and the other girl said she got a clean health report but didn`t want to share it. There is nothing else I can do.

    M7
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    Quote Originally Posted by metoo4
    Mod7, if a rebuttal isn't provided by the agency or girl, when they had the chance to do so, we can consider this as a proof of guilt and I have no problem considering the accusation to be true.
    It could also be proof that the accused party doesn't read the boards.

    There is a statement on the other board that the accusation is utterly false and the by-product of one worker's jealously over her either losing or sharing a favorite client with the accused party. I CAN NOT vouch for the truth of either story. There are clearly two sides to this story and we should not pass judgement. Hopefully the public health will not be compromised by this affair.

    In the interest of full disclosure, the accused party is one of my very favorite women of this city, though I've not been intimate with her in several years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metoo4
    Was it 1 sided? Of course it was. The service is provided by the agency/escort, not by the hobbyist. Last time I checked, If I got sick after ordering take-out at a restaurant, I didn't have to get my house inspected before lodging a complaint and having a follow-up.
    We cannot use your "ordering take-out at a restaurant" as a fair example. When is the last time you heard of a restaurant patron infecting the food that would be served eventually to somebody else?

    We have to remember that the lady in question most likely picked up the STI from one of her clients.

    Kudos to FKS for comming forth.

    Everybody in this hobby needs to get checked regularly, and we all need to rethink our attitudes when it comes to safe sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metoo4
    Last time I checked, If I got sick after ordering take-out at a restaurant, I didn't have to get my house inspected before lodging a complaint and having a follow-up.
    I agree with you to a point, but to continue with your analogy...

    - If you got food at 3-4 restaurants that weekend, then you would have to somehow prove which food made you sick.
    - Also, since the restaurant probably won't take your word for it, you would have to provide your doctor's report to prove you got sick.
    - The last point is would the restaurant take your friend's word that you got sick, or would they want to hear from you?

    For whatever reason the agency/lady chose not to participate in a board discussion, nor provide proof to the Mods. That does not prove anything since the allegedly infected client didn't participate or provide their doctor's info either.

    Everyone needs to protect themselves and not rely on others.

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    I just had a few email exchanges with an FKS team member about this situation. I can not disclose the content of our exchanges nor the name of the girl (or girls) suffering from an STD, but in a nutshell she is going again for more blood tests tomorrow and she will email me her test results as soon as she gets them (little wink to t76: No, I didn't ask for them, she proposed. ). I will let you all know.

    In this business, some girls are doing duos, some clients are seeing more than one girl on the same night, some girls multiple clients the same night, etc., so in general, many girls have sex with many guys.

    I reiterate what I said earlier: you should go get tested if you have met any FKS lady in the last 3-6 months. In fact whoever has been hobbying with anyone should go get tested on a regular basis regardless.

    M7

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    Mod 7:

    Thank you for starting this thread and providing us the information. Also, please notify us about the results of other agency.

    I don't think that agency's reputation gets hurt with fair reporting. If anything, it enhances the agency's reputation because it is taking the right decisions.

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    Health Status Report

    I recently received a scanned document from Lilly Montreal, the ex-FKS team member who was allegedly infected with an STI. This document reveals her real name, the doctor's name, and other references, enough to tell me it's an official document.

    The end result is: Lilly is not infected.

    Please note that Lilly is the only FKS team member who contacted me, and if there are any other suspected cases of infection at FKS (were there?), I have not been made aware of any other health status report, current or upcoming, clean or not.

    As usual in this business, we all proceed at our own risks. Be safe! Better be safe than sorry.

    M7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Daddy
    Also, please notify us about the results of other agency.

    I don`t think that agency`s reputation gets hurt with fair reporting. If anything, it enhances the agency`s reputation because it is taking the right decisions.
    I already commented about it right here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mod 7
    For the records, the agency didn`t refuse the mediation and gladly accepted to provide the results, but apparently one of the girl vanished and is still nowhere to be found (he told me his web site was not up-to-date and that`s why she is still listed), and the other girl said she got a clean health report but didn`t want to share it. There is nothing else I can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mod 7
    I recently received a scanned document from Lilly Montreal, the ex-FKS team member who was allegedly infected with an STI. This document reveals her real name, the doctor's name, and other references, enough to tell me it's an official document.

    The end result is: Lilly is not infected.

    Please note that Lilly is the only FKS team member who contacted me, and if there are any other suspected cases of infection at FKS (were there?), I have not been made aware of any other health status report, current or upcoming, clean or not.

    As usual in this business, we all proceed at our own risks. Be safe! Better be safe than sorry.

    M7
    Just a small question. A girl with a fake name sends you a document with a real girls name that appears legit. In theory, couldn't this document have be used for any questionable girl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrten
    Just a small question. A girl with a fake name sends you a document with a real girls name that appears legit. In theory, couldn't this document have be used for any questionable girl?
    You have a good point! I am sending right away the Mod my driver's license and my medicard.

    Maybe I should also ask him to pass me the friggin sti exam while I am at it... would you like to come to the meeting just to testify the samples were actually taken from my body??
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