A few words from FKS Society about recent events

[Maxima]

Mod 7,

Thanked to your action, LL has a medium to clear her name.

 

[everydayjoe]

I was searching Melain Cherie and this is the latest thread with her name in it. Is she still retired or does she come out of hiding now and again? I saw her in Vancouver yrs ago and she was one of the very best sp's I have ever seen in my life. Her look, kisses, elegance and her service wasn't too bad either, lol. Thanks in advance.

 

[everydayjoe]

Thanks Doc. That totally sucks, but that's life in the Melanie Cherie fast lane, lol. Maybe one day she will return, but doubtful.

 

[fksociety]

My Perspective

I would never accuse anyone of having an STD out of spite or to "destroy" an Sp's reputation.

Girls come and go in this business and FKS is no exception. I totally understand that this is the nature of the business.

Since the goal at our group is to have eventually all of the ladies learn how to work as independents, I just don't see why I would maliciously post something like an STD to damage anyone's reputation, not to mention our own!

My decision to post about it was not easy. I knew that there would be much ado about nothing either pro or against FKS but I did it our of real concern for the public: first the women in my group, secondly the members and last but not least, the general public.

Please know that all the ladies at FKS have been tested and all were negative including myself.

I act, if you will, as the "moderator" of my own group and take these matters very seriously.

And before anyone is asked to leave FKS, if I think I can help, I make it my business to offer my assistance to someone who may be in trouble.

Have yourselves Ladies & Gents a wonderful day, Giselle. FKS Management.

 

[YouVantOption]

"this board ... (is) more like the National Enquirer of escortism"

Brilliant! Too funny! And so very true.

Lilly, just wanted you to know, I think this is a great post!

I believe everyone who sees an escort should get tested often. I believe that every escorts who sees clients should get tested often.

[...]

Please, do not act like irresponsibly, get tested often! For men, most sti are now detectable with a urine sample. They will only use the Q-Tips if you tested positive. HIV is a blood sample.

Lilly

Interesting. I get tested for the whole gamut: Hep C, HIV, but I've never taken a piss test for STDs, and I get my stuff done at a hospital. My doctor knows about my activities (an important step to take - get a doctor with whom you can have complete disclosure. If you are worried about it being attached to your medical record, go to one of the many clinics, although you might have to pay for tests that are covered under Medicare at such places).

But then, I am aware of the symptoms, and have not suffered any of them, so perhaps because I was not complaining, I wasn't tested for stuff I didn't likely have, and is symptomatic.

Anyway, I get blood tests every six months, and examine my genitalia daily, if not more frequently. That's just how I roll.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

My decision to post about it was not easy. I knew that there would be much ado about nothing either pro or against FKS but I did it our of real concern for the public: first the women in my group, secondly the members and last but not least, the general public.

You leave quite a few unanswered questions, Giselle. You made a very serious charge against this woman, a charge now proven false. With no proof of the charge, why would you make such an accusation?

I'm not a lawyer and I don't know all the facts behind this case, but my sense is that Lilly could file a pretty good libel case against you. I wonder if she's consulted counsel?

 

[YouVantOption]

Um

You leave quite a few unanswered questions, Giselle. You made a very serious charge against this woman, a charge now proven false. With no proof of the charge, why would you make such an accusation?

I'm not a lawyer and I don't know all the facts behind this case, but my sense is that Lilly could file a pretty good libel case against you. I wonder if she's consulted counsel?

I didn't read the woman's 'name' until Lily de-cloaked. Beyond that, let us assume that Lily is a nom-de-boudoir, like pretty much all the others here.

Therefore and ipso facto, no libel. I can't say anything about slander, i don't know if anything was said verbally. But likely, no case. Not that there isn't a lawyer somewhere that would take the case.

 

[fksociety]

What has been proven

is that Miss Lilly Lombard has a clean bill of health which is excellent news.

My post was meant to raise awareness that perhaps it was a good time for ALL to go get tested. I hope that some will heed this humble advice!

I never once named names...it is the readers of the boards that did just that: name names!

Instead of wasting time taking shots at FKS, I suggest all readers make an appointment to get tested and keep doing it while they use the services of sp's or are sexually active.

Merci beaucoup, Giselle.

 

[stephane2002]

Everyone is responsible for his own health. Everyone is supposed to take his own responsability and safety mesures according to the level of risk he wants to tolerate. By nature there is a risk. Especially with GFE type services.... however everybody wants GFE... even I !!!

So guys, don't blame or flame the ladies. 95% of the time the ladies are more aware and professional than us regarding health control.... especially with FKS, indies such Lilly, and the main agencies.

Nobody should ever rely on others regarding his own health. You should always suppose that every single SP you meet can be infected by whatsoever.... And if you don't do that... don't cry after.... It is your decision... Not her. You called her, she did not call you as far as I know !?

YOU alone guys are responsible for your own choices and actions. Not the lady, even if unfortunatly she was infected by anything...

However once again, I am very impressed by Lilly's and FKS's professionalism and courage regarding this issue.

 

[stephane2002]

lol... relationships between gorgeous women are always tricky !!! Don't worry, they will both survive this mess....

 

[Mod 7]

Now i don't know the facts and perhaps no one does except for Lilly and fks. However it does appear that there was some kind of falling out between the two parties and fks took a cheap shot at her.

Let's stop this now before it grows out of proportion. As you stated, you don't know the facts, plus this is not to be a gossiping board. Wrong color. I had multiple email exchanges with Lilly and FKS, and although it may have looked like it from the outside at first, there was no cheap shot taken at anyone. Giselle's intentions were good and she never named anyone, not even to your truly. It's all of us readers who did assume who it was all about.

I will probably close this thread later tonight.

M7

 

[Doc Holliday]

This all began with an ambiguous notice on the FKS member site that was repeated here. It was inevitable that a statement of that type would lead to speculation here and elsewhere. It was not the right way to handle the situation, if, in fact, there ever really was a situation in the first place.

I don't even know why this even made it to this board in the first place. It was posted on the FKS board & it should have remained there.

 

[Lilly Lombard]

This all began with an ambiguous notice on the FKS member site that was repeated here. It was inevitable that a statement of that type would lead to speculation here and elsewhere. It was not the right way to handle the situation, if, in fact, there ever really was a situation in the first place.

Ambiguous or not, leading to speculations or not, situation or not, what does it matter? Health Canada posts several health notices per year, sometimes about medications that they suspect to be the cause of some other illnesss. Do we ignore them? They are meant to inform us. That all this story is BS or not, it just helped reminding everyone to get tested. I think that it is a good thing.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Lilly,

I have not had the pleasure of meeting you, but judging by what you have posted here, you seem to be a shrewd lady who can very clearly distinguish the forest from the trees. There is always a big picture and it's good to know that you recognize it.

 

[Doc Holliday]

That all this story is BS or not, it just helped reminding everyone to get tested. I think that it is a good thing.

Yes, testing is a good thing. I get tested regularly, but to be honest, it's because of the profession i'm in. Most hobbyists i know don't get tested unless they suspect they've caught an std. Yes, this is very unfortunate....but this is how it really is. If there is any good that will come out of this whole story, it will be that it was a wake-up call for many hobbyists (and to a degree, sps also). But i don't think this has changed much in regards to hobbyists that never get tested. These types of hobbyists usually believe they're immune to catching anything & generally don't give a damn. The ones that did take this opportunity to go & get tested are the ones that have been through this procedure before and DO give a damn. Just a thought....

 

[z/m(Ret)]

I recently alerted FKS Members on our private board that there was the possibility that a recently departed independent (she has not advertised with us regularly in the last two months), may be experiencing some sort of STD. I did not name the lady's name because I feel it is a matter the lady in question should clarify and resolve herself

I confess not having read halfway through this thread neither have I payed much attention to the heated discussions on the other board regarding this whole issue. What hits me first from the seminal post is the vagueness of the language: "may be" and "some sort of STD" say as much on the eventuality of one of their members being infected by a STD than these would say about the same member having a bad hair day.

Interestingly, the FKS management, though reluctant to give out the name of the said member, did not fail to give us enough hints to give it away: "recently departed independent" and "has not advertised regularly in two months".

A few years back, my then partner Melanie Cherie faced a similar situation but in her case the accusation was totally false. She resolved the issue by faxing her test results to the moderator. This is the responsible thing to do!

"but in her case the accusation was totally false" suggests that, contrary to the said member, Melanie Cherie was wrongfully suspected. Notice how from complete uncertainty, we're asked to jump to a state of relative certainty. Notice also the use of the word "accusation", as if being infected by STD would qualify as crime.

Thus far nothing factual was said yet the post flashes obliquely a name and an accusation of she having contracted a STD.

While I am worried by the possible consequences, I also mentioned on my post that as grown ups partaking in a hobby that has certain risks, I hoped we were all very aware that the more GFE services one asks for, the chances to catch a disease increased so it should come as no surprise to anyone that it has happened.

It could happen, and I am sure it does happen on a continuous basis with unprotected services but no one ever thinks of reporting the incidents and warning clients.

Here instillating fear or lumping the issue into generalities. No facts yet.

I feel that there is no blame to point at French kiss. I have asked that all ladies currently advertising on both sites get tested which they have done and so far, everyone is in good health!

And, eviedently, the disclaimer.

I trust that all of you will take care and get tested soon to avoid unpleasant surprises and hope that we all think twice before asking for riskier services next time around.

Here blaming the clients.

Thank you for your time, FKS Management.

You're welcome.

Either a matter of FKS management's inability to express itself correctly, either a case of calculated misinformation.

 

[Maxima]

Let's stop this now before it grows out of proportion. As you stated, you don't know the facts, plus this is not to be a gossiping board. Wrong color. I had multiple email exchanges with Lilly and FKS, and although it may have looked like it from the outside at first, there was no cheap shot taken at anyone. Giselle's intentions were good and she never named anyone, not even to your truly. It's all of us readers who did assume who it was all about.

I will probably close this thread later tonight.

M7

M7,

I must disagree with you here. The "recently departed independent" (the number of inquiring PM from customers to LL proved that she was the suspect from day 1) would not have a chance to clear her name if not for your action, your credibility and the ability to use merb as a medium. Gisele's spin to turn her notice into a noble action is pure BS.
You are a good samaritan, and this community as well as LL will remember it.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Either a matter of FKS management's inability to express itself correctly, either a case of calculated misinformation.

I must disagree with you here. The "recently departed independent" (the number of inquiring PM from customers to LL proved that she was the suspect from day 1) would not have a chance to clear her name if not for your action, your credibility and the ability to use merb as a medium. Gisele's spin to turn her notice into a noble action is pure BS.
You are a good samaritan, and this community as well as LL will remember it.

I'm not Sherlock Holmes, and I don't play him on TV, but my instincts tell me that both of you lads are on to something. This whole thing has a foul aroma.

And, Max, I agree with you completely that the only thing between Lilly and an unjustly ruined reputation was mod7's vigilance in this matter.

 

[Mod 7]

I must disagree with you here. The "recently departed independent" (the number of inquiring PM from customers to LL proved that she was the suspect from day 1) would not have a chance to clear her name if not for your action, your credibility and the ability to use merb as a medium. Gisele's spin to turn her notice into a noble action is pure BS.

Without disclosing details of the exchanges Giselle and I had recently, all I can say is that people should stop assuming things. To use your own words, Lilly was suspected from day 1. That's exactly it: suspected. I'm glad I could make a difference and help clear her reputation.

To use Giselle's own words in one of her email to me, "the message about being tested was the real, important one to pay attention to". Lilly got tested, all FKS girls got tested, and this whole thing raised an awareness that we, as clients, should all be tested regularly as well. At least the final outcome is a positive one.

M7

 

[Maxima]

...To use Giselle's own words in one of her email to me, "the message about being tested was the real, important one to pay attention to". Lilly got tested, all FKS girls got tested...
M7

I hear you... But how come Lilly was the only one who had to provide a written proof of her negative result... The other FKS girls, Gisele included, got tested..at face value?
My last words in this subject.