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As i stated several times since the season started, Mark Texeira has no business playing right now. He should have went for the wrist operation immediately. His .167 batting average is proof that his wrist is not right and might never will be. His presence in the lineup is hurting his team. Okay, Lyle Overbay is below average, but he's still better than Texeira & he's one of the best fielding first baseman around.

Anyone feel sorry for Ichiro? Every game he's in the lineup, he's hurting his legacy & chances to be in the HoF. He's a shadow of his ol' self and hopefully he'll announce his retirement after this season. Same goes for Vernon Wells, who's actually mediocre, but at least he announced he was hanging 'em up after this season. As for Derek Jeter, i hope he comes back for one last hurray & then announce his retirement following this season. The guy is a first-ballot HoF and he'll never be as good as he was last season. I'm not even certain he'll be able to play again, but i hope he will.

Even though i'm not a NY Yankees fan, i've always been a fan of Derek Jeter. And even though i'm not a Red Sox fan, i'm a big fan of Dustin Pedroia.
 

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After playing doubleheader on Saturday and a 14 inning nailbiter last night, the Red Sox bullpen is on fumes and in need of a rest. Having no one in the pen with options, the Sox have placed Clayton Mortensen on the 15 day DL in order to fortify with a fresh arm for the next couple of days.

It's unclear at this point if the is a "not a real DL" DL or a "real DL" DL. We'll keep you posted as you certainly want to know.
 

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Oh man...I can't wait to see a gimpy Capn Jeter come back to the team!! This is gonna be entertainment at it's finest. Talk about a downgrade at SS when Laynce Nix gets moved out of the lineup. Hahaha. Or is it his brother Jayson, either way, they both suck ;)
Easy there, pal. Nix is one of the light hitting Yankees best hitters. He has a higher batting average than Mark Teixeira, Travis Hafner, Vernon Wells, Lyle Overbay or Kevin Youkilis.

A copule of trivia questions for you knowledge buffs this morning:
1. What player is first among American League outfielders in on-base percentage, second in RBIs, second in batting average and fourth in OPS?

2. What light hitting team (oh shit, gave it away. oh well.) is twelfth in the league in batting average, eleventh in runs, last in doubles, twelfth in on base percentage, and ninth in home runs?

OK, gotta agree with the Beav. What??? Yup. There's a lot to be said for pitching depth. For the second time in the last three weeks, the Sox have had to reach down to Pawtucket to bring in Alfredo Aceves for a fill in start. And for the second time in the last three weeks, Aceves has delivered with a six inning, one run outing, picking up a W each time. Don't you think Hiroki Kuroda, hammered in three of his last four starts, could use a little time on the "not a real DL" to relax and refresh? Don't you think CC Sabathia, hammered in four of his last five starts, could use a little time on the "not a real DL" to relax and refresh?

The Sox could have started Franklin Morales, who allowed two runs in five innings of his first appearance of the season. Top prospects Rubby de la Rosa and Allen Webster are both MLB ready with ERAs under 3.40 at Pawtucket. Anthony Ranaudo has a 2.43 ERA and .98 WHIP at Portland. Drake Britton and Brandon Workman are both under 3.50 there as well. Twenty year old Henry Owens, certainly not ready for the big time, is pitching lights out at A ball. With Lester, Buchholz, Doubront and these guys, the Sox could very well have an all home-grown rotation by 2016.
 

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Watching the Yanks game on MLB.tv and I'm truly astonished at the Yankees severe lack of hitting in this game in Oakland right now. Tied at 2 and in the 14th inning now. The Yanks have left 11 on base in the extra innings alone!! That's absurd!! Their 4-7 hitters are a combined 0-21!!
 

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Hello all,

Watching the Yanks game on MLB.tv and I`m truly astonished at the Yankees severe lack of hitting...

https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...or-League-Baseball-Thread&p=699905#post699905

The Yanks are horrible at the plate. Their OPS is 22nd in the league. They rank: 19th Runs, 23rd hits, 22nd BA, 21st OBP, 19th SLG. Thanks to a few hitters being hot early they are 11th in HRs, but dropping fast. Whether they win tonight`s game or not, it`s been another Yankee lesson in gross ineptitude. Compare that with the Red Sox who are NUMBER 1 in OPS.

Update: Yanks lose 3-2 in 18 innings and the 4-7 hitters go 0-28. PEEEEEEUUUUUUUU!!!


A copule of trivia questions for you knowledge buffs this morning:
1. What player is first among American League outfielders in on-base percentage, second in RBIs, second in batting average and fourth in OPS?

Answer: Dan Nava.

http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story...niel-nava-boston-red-sox-seizes-valuable-role

NEW YORK -- There are nine Boston Red Sox players listed on the 2013 All-Star ballot, one for every position, including designated hitter.

Missing is the name of the guy who has a higher OPS than Dustin Pedroia, more RBIs than David Ortiz, and is two home runs behind Ortiz and Mike Napoli for the team lead.

But don`t blame the folks who chose the All-Star candidates. The Red Sox freely admit that they, too, didn`t know what they had in switch-hitting outfielder Daniel Nava, who at age 30 has added another remarkable wrinkle to a storyline that from the outset has been over the top in improbability.

"We wouldn`t have taken him off the roster if we did," said Sox vice president/assistant GM Mike Hazen. "We got kind of lucky, didn`t we?"

And this part may be the best of all for the kid who used to spend nights in a coin-operated laundry washing the uniforms of his college team, was signed out of an independent league in California, hit a grand slam on the first pitch he saw in the big leagues, then was dropped off the big league roster less than a year later.

"You don`t even think twice," Sox manager John Farrell said, "about writing his name in the lineup now.

"We`ve talked many times about his path, his pedigree, or lack thereof. Yet all he does is go out and perform and produce."

Nava may never believe he has it made. That would be counterintuitive for a guy who was too small in high school, unrecruited by colleges, undrafted by a major league team, deemed expendable by the Red Sox. But his performance this season -- the most recent highlight a four-hit game against the Yankees on Saturday night as a fill-in leadoff man, including a three-run home run -- has lifted him to a place he has never occupied before. He has become someone the Red Sox depend on.

"He`s a completely different player," said Farrell, who was first exposed to Nava as the Sox pitching coach in 2010, the year that Nava announced his arrival with a grand slam off Philadelphia`s Joe Blanton in Fenway Park.

"For one, he`s a better defender. I think more than anything, over time he has gained some confidence that he belongs here and is a very good major league hitter. Not just because he sees pitches and works the count. He`s picked out certain areas where he can drive the ball. He`s become a much better right-handed hitter than he was in the past, and to his credit he`s worked his tail off to be the player he is today."

And that`s just two years after the Sox designated him for assignment, meaning he was there for the taking by any team willing to pay the waiver price.

"You never know how a kid is going to react," said Sox first-base coach and outfield instructor Arnie Beyeler, who managed Nava in Pawtucket. "You see what a guy is made of when the rug`s been pulled out from under him. That heart, that drive is the hardest thing to scout and judge. You really see what guys are made of when those things happen.

"He`s the underdog guy. He`s always had to earn everything he`s got. That`s all he knows how to do, and he just continues to do that."

Hazen was the club`s director of player development from the time Nava was first signed on Jan 17, 2008, a month before his 25th birthday, the Sox acting on the recommendation of pro scouting director Jared Porter and vice president/player personnel Allard Baird. It didn`t cost the Sox much: $1. That was his purchase price from the Golden League. If a player makes a major league organization, the Golden League receives a total of $1,500.

Nava started with the Sox in the Class A California League, a league in which 25 is an age you don`t want to see if you expect one day to make your living in the majors. It`s a league for hot-shot high school draft picks and freshly minted college stars with fat signing bonuses in their pockets.

"I give Chad Epperson a lot of credit," said Hazen, invoking the name of the team`s catching coordinator who was managing in Class A Lancaster at the time. "When Daniel first signed, we had Jason Place, we had Mickey Hall, guys who were high picks and given a lot of money."

Hazen then recounted what became almost a nightly conversation between the two.

"Hey Mike, this guy can hit, I`m telling you."

"Eppy, c`mon man."

"I need to put him in the lineup every day. This guy can hit."

"Who you going to sit?"

"I don`t care, this guy has to hit. I`ll play him at DH, the outfield, somewhere, but this guy can hit."

Finally, the day came when Hazen said: "OK, you win, go ahead." What would have happened had he not conceded?

"He could have died on the vine with us, had we never played him," Hazen said. "I give Eppy a lot of credit. He pounded me every day on the phone."

Nava won the Cal League batting title, hitting .341, and the independent Golden League got its money. The next year, 2009, he hit .339 in Class A Salem, then .364 in Double-A Portland. He began 2010 in Triple-A Pawtucket and was hitting there, too, when he was called up on June 12. The Sox were short of outfielders. Jeremy Hermida had fractured ribs, another call-up, Josh Reddick, wasn`t hitting and was sent down, and the Sox tapped Nava. Nationally televised game, Nava batted for the first time in the second inning. The first pitch he saw, from Philadelphia`s Joe Blanton, he hit into the Sox bullpen. Terry Francona, the Sox manager at the time, said he felt like crying.

"You`re in shock, really," Nava`s mother, Becky, said at the time. "Just in awe. You think maybe you`re in a dream."

Sox outfielder Mike Carp was with the Mariners at the time. "I happened to catch that grand slam in his first at-bat. I saw it on TV live, in Seattle," Carp said Saturday.

"He`s been as consistent a player as we could hope for. Hopefully, he`ll keep it up all year because he`s done some amazing things for us."

But first, the fairy-tale start began to hurtle toward a disappointing ending. Nava didn`t hit another home run in 160 more at-bats that season. He was a below-average outfielder, and he sported a mediocre .242 batting average. He didn`t make the big league team out of camp the next season, struggled badly in Pawtucket, and on May 20, less than a year after his dramatic home run, he was deemed expendable by the Sox, who made him DFA.

"It`s not that we ever questioned he`d hit again, we always thought he was going to hit again -- he`d hit from the day he was born," Hazen said.

"But the way he was playing defense, plus struggling offensively, there was no value to us at the major league level. At that point in time we were maneuvering around a very good ballclub. We were trying to put every piece in place to enhance our major league club. We had no roster spots we could sit on."

Every other big league team passed on Nava.

"I think we got lucky because of his background," Hazen said. "I think maybe other teams didn`t buy into it, because of his pedigree and where he came from, just what makes the story so special to begin with."

As expected, Nava began to hit again, almost immediately after he was outrighted to Pawtucket. He reached base in 34 straight games, and hit .397 during a 17-game home hitting streak.

What no one foresaw, however, were the strides Nava made in the outfield. He worked with outfield instructors Tom Goodwin and David Howard. He worked on strengthening his arm. Mostly, he just worked. "He was the one who did it," Beyeler said. "He was the one worked, who realized there`s more to the game than just hitting and took pride in his defense.

"You can`t teach that. The guys who go out and do it, they`re the ones who become the great stories."

The Sox took notice.

"What`s really interesting to me," Hazen said, "is that usually when guys are not hitting and go down, they think the only way back to the big leagues is to hit. Which is a large part true, no doubt about it.

"But the fact that while Dan was struggling, he did so much to improve his defense, when he came back up it was eye-opening, how much better of a player all the way around he was. I think that`s the big difference. He`s always been able to hit. He went through an extended funk, but he never lost his ability."

Nava began last year back in Triple-A, but not for long. In May, the Sox restored him to the roster, and with Carl Crawford unable to play because of injuries, he played more games in left field than anyone else. But while he hit well from the left side (.269 with a .383 OBP), he struggled from the right side, batting .185 with a .280 OBP.

He came to camp this spring unsure of a roster spot, the Sox having brought several other players to camp to compete with him. Nava even worked out at first base in an attempt to enhance his value to the club.

Farrell is candid when asked if he ever imagined Nava taking on the importance he has.

"I don`t want to slight him," Farrell said, "but I`ve got to be honest with you, no.

"[But] he`s come on so much defensively, and as spring training started to unfold, we had some injury situations we were dealing with, and he kept coming along, he kept coming along."

On Opening Day, Nava sat. Rookie Jackie Bradley Jr., who had a terrific spring, drew the start in left field. That first week, Nava started a couple of games at DH, one at first base. But when the Sox returned home, with Bradley struggling, Farrell put Nava in left field for the first time this season against Orioles left-hander Wei-Yin Chen. Nava responded with a three-run home run that broke a scoreless tie and accounted for all of the team`s runs in a 3-1 win.

"I think one of the defining moments for him as this season has unfolded was the three-run home run he hit right-handed against Chen," Farrell said. "All of a sudden, it makes you open your eyes and say, `Maybe we don`t have to look at him as just a one-sided guy."

Nava has reminded an everyday player ever since, starting in 47 games, including 12 starts against left-handers. He has a slash line of .297/.397/.483/.880. He has 37 RBIs, 8 home runs and 8 doubles. He has not gone more than two consecutive starts this season without a hit. Saturday night`s four hits, which matched a career high, came the night after he`d struck out three times while batting leadoff in place of Jacoby Ellsbury.

"Things are a lot better, that`s for sure," he said after Saturday night`s 11-1 win over the Yankees. "Getting a win is huge. Getting a chance to win the series tomorrow. It was one of those nights you had a good feel."

It`s a feeling the Red Sox share about him. Still the underdog?

"I think he`s been in that position since the day he signed," Hazen said. "He doesn`t get the strikes that other guys get. He doesn`t. That`s not fair, but that`s the way the world works.

"But the fact that he did what he did, that`s a tip of the cap to him. He`s going to be in this league a long time, the way he plays now."


The Red Sox are now almost in apology mode for not having Mr. Nava on the All-Star ballot this year. Given this year`s performance he absolutely deserves a shot at serious consideration.

Bravo Mr. Nava,

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Update on the Yanks game, now in the 17th inning and still no hits for the 4-7 batters in the Yankee lineup. 0-25! That some serious PG&D there. The Yank MVP has to be Adam Warren who's pitched 6 innings of 4 hit ball and thrown 85 pitches.
 

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Mercifully, the A's finished of those hapless light hitting Yanks in the 18th inning. Rivera came in and didn't record an out, giving up 2 hits and an IBB. To recap, the Yankees scored 2 in the 1st inning and then ZERO in the next 17!!
 

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I'm currently looking at the Yankees lineup & some of the stats aren't pretty:

Youkilis .219
Wells .229
Hafner .220
Texeira .163
Brignac .133
Overbay .245
Suzuki .264
Cano .282

Where would this team be without the decent pitching it's been getting? :confused:

You don't win many championships with such a light-hitting club!
 

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I'm currently looking at the Yankees lineup & some of the stats aren't pretty:

Youkilis .219
Wells .229
Hafner .220
Texeira .163
Brignac .133
Overbay .245
Suzuki .264
Cano .282

Where would this team be without the decent pitching it's been getting? :confused:

You don't win many championships with such a light-hitting club!

That is just putrid :nod:...Oh well, you know what the Yankee fanboys say...there's help on the horizon, hopefully for them a whole new starting 9....Bwwwaaahhhh!!! :lol:
 

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The stats aren't pretty, but they just played the best team in the AL West and got outpitched.

I think the team is in a bit of a slump and some guys will turn it around. Plus there will be fresh bats soon with Jeter, Nunez, Cervelli and Granderson. I think they can hope to be and will be average with some power second half, and then it will be the pitching depth that will simply carry them down the stretch. Pitching today was actually good. Rivera gave up a bloop hit on a guy he jammed, kind of lucky but what are you going to do. Luck has blessed the A's and sometimes luck does not shine on the good guys.
 

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I think he meant the Yankees who could be in first place in a day or two and also the Yankees that you had written off by now, yea those NYY. Not bad for a team ravaged by injuries all season eh? The red sox should be taking notes to see how it's done lol, then again, lets hope not! :D

Didn't you say the same thing a couple weeks ago when the Sox were in the Bronx laying the smacketh down on that bunch of misfits? Yea, I thought so. Me thinks the Yanks will find 3rd place before 1st place again!


Looks like MY prediction came to fruition before Iggy's...Shocker!! Maybe you should go into business at Joe.t's Sports Wagering Emporium, Iggy. Hahaha.
 

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Once again, this Yankees fan is not a bit worried no matter how all sox fans want to pretend it is the end of the road for the Yanks.... dont you guys ever learn? Yanks will be getting healthier as the red sox (in beaves very astute words) will be getting their "dead arms" among other things. I see Clay B and his bum "neck" (this time, guess his bum back issues will be later in the summer) caused him to delay his next start, again this morning, now not pitching until tuesday, they say.
 

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Plus there will be fresh bats soon with Jeter, Nunez, Cervelli and Granderson.
This might be the most telling thing you've ever written Beav. Nunez is going to help the offense? Nunez who couldn't play for the 1962 Mets? Two problems with Nunez, Beav? a) He can't hit. b) He can't field. I understand, however, that he's nice to puppies.

Cervelli??? You mean the guy who six months ago wasn't good enough to be the Yanks backup catcher? The guy with the .710 career OPS? So he had two good weeks. So did Vernon Wells. Oh, how quickly they forget.

Derek Jeter? Seriously, Beav. Tell me, where's Cap'n Jetes gonna play? I have a lot of Yankee fans among my friends and there's not one of them delirious enough to believe that a 39 year old man who hasn't played baseball in almost a year and is coming off two broken ankles is going to be able to play shortstop.

Granderson? Great, just what the Yankees need. Another .240 hitter who hits home runs with the bases empty.

I think they can hope to be and will be average with some power second half, and then it will be the pitching depth that will simply carry them down the stretch.
True, and Special K can hope to be Pope someday.

Rivera gave up a bloop hit on a guy he jammed, kind of lucky but what are you going to do.
You mean like he jammed Luis Gonzalez? I didn't see it, Beav, but it sure looked like a solid line drive in the box score.

Luck has blessed the A's and sometimes luck does not shine on the good guys.
True, but sometimes it shines on the bad guys. Some very smart guys at BP have taken Bill James' Pythagorean Standing and adjusted them according to difficulty of schedule. They call it the Third order standings and, for the most part, how a team's record varies from their actual record is a function of luck and a good indicator of how they will perform over the balance of the season. So you're right, the A's have been lucky. They've won 2.9 games more than they should have thanks to luck. In fact, they've been almost as lucky as the Yankees, who have won 4.2 games more than they should have.
 

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I love the NY press when things go south for the empire. Like the working press in most cities, they spend a lot of time with the players and, I assume, want them to do well, stopping short, as journalists should, of actually rooting for the team. However, the NY beat writers do not share the sense of entitlement common to the typical Yankee fan and tend to view the team's performance and outlook more dispassionately than to those wearing the pinstripe colored glasses. Here are a few pieces from this morning's coverage of the Yankees' season bottoming out last night.

Ken Davidoff in the NY Post:

OAKLAND — At the conclusion of this futility marathon, the boxscore revealed the ugly truth:

Mark Teixeira, Travis Hafner, Kevin Youkilis and Vernon Wells — the Yankees’ fourth-through-seventh hitters yesterday — combined to go 0-for-28 with 12 strikeouts.

“That’s a no-hitter for all of us,” the Georgia Tech product Teixeira calculated out loud. “That’s not good.”

No, it was pretty darn terrible, as some fantastic Yankees pitching went for naught in a brutal, 18-inning, 3-2 loss to the A’s at O.co Coliseum, sweeping the visitors out of northern California.

Perhaps a visit to the lousy Angels at the state’s other end, starting tonight at Angel Stadium, will soothe the Yankees’ ailing bats. Yet with a record of 37-29, already having overcome so much just to get here, it’s fair to wonder:

Are there enough potential rebounds in this Yankees lineup to send the team back in the right direction?

The Yankees now have a ghastly team on-base percentage of .305 — they were at .337 last year — and their 260 runs rank 11th in the American League. They wouldn’t have reached even that modest height without unexpectedly significant contributions from Hafner, Wells and Lyle Overbay.

But 96 games remain, and none of the injured position players (Francisco Cervelli, Curtis Granderson, Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez) will be returning imminently. One or more might not return at all. So how do the Yankees solve this puzzle? They sure as heck can’t pitch much better than they have been.

Most painful for the Yankees yesterday, they put runners in scoring position in each of the first five extra innings and couldn’t bring a run home in any of them, going a combined 0-for-9 in those situations and stranding 11 baserunners just in the extra innings.

“We had a few opportunities to do it,” Wells said. “Obviously, collectively, we were pretty bad at it.”

Who from this collection can emerge with value? Teixeira is the one guy who 1) has a recent track record of success, albeit diminished from his career peak; and 2) has taken some good swings lately. He has 12 RBIs in 57 plate appearances since coming off the disabled list on May 31.

“This series was a lot better. Just keep working. I knew it wasn’t going to be easy,” Teixeira said. “Keep swinging the bat well. The positive thing is, I’m driving in runs. I didn’t do it today. The first two games of the series were good.”

Youkilis has been dreadful since being activated the same night as Teixeira, putting up six hits and four walks in 45 plate appearances, striking out 13 times.

“A lot of us didn’t get the job done. I’m one of them,” Youkilis said. “It was [bleep]-poor performance in my mind. I need to start stepping it up and playing a lot better.”

It’s worth remembering that Youkilis’ 2012 performance diminished considerably from 2011, and the downward slope simply might be continuing now.

Wells — whose season slash line is now down to an ugly .226 AVG, .274 OBP, and .386 SLG — looks cooked. He probably should be starting against left-handers only, which means the Yankees either need to give Overbay more of an opportunity in the outfield, defense be damned, or they should dispose of Overbay and call up the healing Brennan Boesch, who has been on the minor-league disabled list with an injured left shoulder.

“You get frustrated from time to time. I’m human,” Wells said. “But you keep working. You try to work your way out of it. That’s what I love about this game. You never have it figured out.”

It’s doubtful that too many Yankees are loving Wells’ decline. As for Hafner, with 52 games played, he’s approaching his total for all of last year (66) and is within shouting distance of his 2011 total (94). It’s worth wondering how much he has left in the tank. Even 2012 A-Rod could help considerably at designated hitter, or third base.

Asked if a loss like this would be difficult to shake off for the 0-for-28 quartet, manager Joe Girardi said, “If they’re young kids, you worry about it. Because they’re veterans, I think they’ll be able to get it out.”

This might not be a mental issue, though. The Yankees need more firepower. Can this crew keep things afloat until the re-enforcements arrive? That once again is in doubt.


Here's Chad Jennings of the Lohud blog

Of all people, it was Mark Teixeira who immediately found big picture perspective on just how bad 0-for-28 really is.

“That’s a no-hitter,” Teixeira said.

Think about that. When a pitcher throws a no-hitter, it means 27 outs without a hit. The Yankees 4 through 7 hitters were one out worse than that. Plus they had 12 strikeouts, nine of which came in extra innings. It was a brutal showing for an offense that has been trending downward for the better part of a month and a half, and tonight it just kept finding new levels of rock bottom with every run-scoring opportunity.

“You have to come up with big hits,” Vernon Wells said. “We had a few opportunities to do it, but obviously collectively as a big group we were pretty bad at it.”

Travis Hafner has five hits in his past 14 games, and you could make the case that his slump is the least significant of the bunch (he still has the third-highest OPS on the roster). Wells is hitting .185 with seven extra-base hits since the end of April. Teixeira has 19 strikeouts in 49 at-bats since joining the team. Kevin Youkilis is hitting .146 with one RBI since coming off the disabled list.

“I haven’t done the right things, and I’ve got to do better,” Youkilis said. “There’s no other explanation but you’ve got to play better.”

This was surely as bad as it gets — if only because those four surely won’t get 28 at-bats in another game — but Teixeira is still working his way back into a rhythm, and the other three are older players coming off down seasons. Aside from Teixeira saying he felt better this series than he felt in Seattle, there’s really no indication that things are about to turn around except for the perpetual optimism of veteran players who always believe they’ll be able to come through the next time.

“In theory, you’d like half your guys — if they’re going to be struggling — that the other guys are still swinging the bat well,” Wells said. “For the most part, it’s been the whole group. Gardy’s been the most consistent over this last week and a half, two weeks. Now Robbie is starting to swing the bat. We’ll start getting some guys going here and there, come together as a group and start swinging the bats a little better.”

It’s certainly hard to imagine them swinging the bats any worse.
 

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Kevin Youkilis is back on the DL. Youkilis is starting to look like the worst one year free agent signing in MLB history. $12 Million for nothing.

Beav, can you check to see if it's the real or not a real DL?

The Yankees have $40,000,000 invested in third base this year. Two dingers. Nice work, Brian.
 
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