I should add that I haven't seen anyone, in or out of the hobby since the end of February so it's possible to stop given the right motivation.
How to quit the Hobby/Addiction?
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lol that is not how it works. at all. This is the common recipe to making a failed agency.
Dealing with OC, LE, fighting with other agencies, I could go on for days. But hey, he’s from Ottawa, let’s cut the guy some slack.
its possible to quit, but its very tough. You're alternative has to be as satisfying. I think its in our biology that will never let us quit cold turkey. Worse than a drug, as it is not something we are born with.
Hobbiests who have quit:
- found a new calling in life
- found a girlfriend/wife (sometimes but rarely a girl from the industry)
- got caught by their wife and now are in family prison
- moved on with SA
- can't handle the game, guys who fall too deep in the fantasy to the point they ruin the hobby for themselves
Hobbiests who have quit:
- found a new calling in life
- found a girlfriend/wife (sometimes but rarely a girl from the industry)
- got caught by their wife and now are in family prison
- moved on with SA
- can't handle the game, guys who fall too deep in the fantasy to the point they ruin the hobby for themselves
I didn't insult him. I'm just pointing out that this is not how you run an agency hence why you see so many subpar agencies that fail. Also wanted to correct the misconception that if you work for an agency, the agency girls are not at your disposal as your personal sex buffet.
You could run it like how you want, but I'm pretty sure every entrepreneur on this planet agrees, you gotta make a successful business before treating yourself.
I totally agree with Chowzilla!
1. You probably do not want to be a booker. Hahahah!! I assume you say this because "wow the proximity to the girls and the money" lmao but some bookers never even meet the girls, and also... Booking just for one escort (myself as an indy for example, or a friend as a booker) is a lot of work. Being an agency booker means you spend 8-12 hours a day answering texts and phone calls from guys who, most often, don't read AND don't book. They just ask a gazillion questions. The booker job isn't nearly as glamorous as you seem to think for some reason...
2. Agency owners are, by definition, pimps. No matter how nice they are (and remember that nice to you as a client doesn't mean always nice to the girls, EVEN if the girl says so - just a few months ago a bunch of indies on Twitter, including some from MTL, admitted that they constantly lied about being happy with their agency when they worked for an agency because saying otherwise drives business away or gets them fired). But yeah. Pimp. Prostitutes in my possession. A man who controls prostitutes and arranges clients for them, taking part of their earnings in return. An agency owner is, by definition, a pimp.
3. I hope you'd pay them to see them! But even then... generally, agency owners who fuck the girls who work at the agency are seen as less respectable. We sex workers constantly talk shit about that kind of agency owner. Like Chowzilla said "I'm pretty sure every entrepreneur on this planet agrees, you gotta make a successful business before treating yourself".
1. You probably do not want to be a booker. Hahahah!! I assume you say this because "wow the proximity to the girls and the money" lmao but some bookers never even meet the girls, and also... Booking just for one escort (myself as an indy for example, or a friend as a booker) is a lot of work. Being an agency booker means you spend 8-12 hours a day answering texts and phone calls from guys who, most often, don't read AND don't book. They just ask a gazillion questions. The booker job isn't nearly as glamorous as you seem to think for some reason...
2. Agency owners are, by definition, pimps. No matter how nice they are (and remember that nice to you as a client doesn't mean always nice to the girls, EVEN if the girl says so - just a few months ago a bunch of indies on Twitter, including some from MTL, admitted that they constantly lied about being happy with their agency when they worked for an agency because saying otherwise drives business away or gets them fired). But yeah. Pimp. Prostitutes in my possession. A man who controls prostitutes and arranges clients for them, taking part of their earnings in return. An agency owner is, by definition, a pimp.
3. I hope you'd pay them to see them! But even then... generally, agency owners who fuck the girls who work at the agency are seen as less respectable. We sex workers constantly talk shit about that kind of agency owner. Like Chowzilla said "I'm pretty sure every entrepreneur on this planet agrees, you gotta make a successful business before treating yourself".
I know the question was not intended towards me.
if you allow me...
Every girl is free to work as indy. But Should they?
I think the big picture is that agency girls kind of graduate to being indies. Like building up your credentials or audition to the industry.
obviously there are times where indies become agency girls, because like you said, they prefer outsourcing the administrative work.
It must also depend on whether the girl wants to make a career out of it.
so I don't think all girls should go indy because they either want to keep this short term, or they prefer outsourcing because there is a learning curve to it.
Debutantes who start indy. TRA. (Tough Road Ahead)
That's the reality of agencies vs indies. That's why the top 3 agencies, are always the top 3 agencies. For the majority they know how to treat the girls.
Girls > Clients > Agency
rather than
Agency > Clients > Girls
- chowzilla ©
and to add to my first reply.
"Don't get high on your own supply" - Scarface.
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Perhaps this should be in the Indys vs Agency thread lol.
There is obviously room for both and some girls just cannot handle all the extra tasks of managing their time, scheduling, getting a driver and promoting themselves.
For this obviously there is a price to pay.
That being said every Indy I have talked to who worked for an agency before said they are much happier, because they can choose and select their clients, pick their own location where to work from and not have to have so many clients to see to make a living and they are not open to the whims of a booker to make sure they have work.
It stands to reason that they won’t tell you that they would rather be back at an Agency.
Personally I don’t like dealing with a booker nor am I a fan of spinners for the most part that is why I stick with Indies.
I know I could have seen some of the ladies for a better price while they were at an agency rather than when they turned Indy but that doesn’t bother me I like the individual attention and the chemistry/friendship you can develop with an Indy, they know the value of repeat business.
There is obviously room for both and some girls just cannot handle all the extra tasks of managing their time, scheduling, getting a driver and promoting themselves.
For this obviously there is a price to pay.
That being said every Indy I have talked to who worked for an agency before said they are much happier, because they can choose and select their clients, pick their own location where to work from and not have to have so many clients to see to make a living and they are not open to the whims of a booker to make sure they have work.
It stands to reason that they won’t tell you that they would rather be back at an Agency.
Personally I don’t like dealing with a booker nor am I a fan of spinners for the most part that is why I stick with Indies.
I know I could have seen some of the ladies for a better price while they were at an agency rather than when they turned Indy but that doesn’t bother me I like the individual attention and the chemistry/friendship you can develop with an Indy, they know the value of repeat business.
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the problem is for me, that i find all these activities boring compared to seeing sex workers.
I do all those things, i have a very busy life with lots of side projects, but seeing sex workers is what makes me truly happy. So i will not quit. It becomes a question of what you can afford and sticking to a budget.
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After my separation I started to meet erotic masseuses, then escorts.
I didn't leave the hobby with a smile, I left because of illness.
But as soon as it was possible, I started dating again.
An exceedingly important thing is to keep control over the frequency, otherwise there will be forfeiture.
That said, I said to myself that I have worked all my life, and now that I live alone, and that my children have a good life, it is time for me to think of myself.
And that's what I've been doing for several years now.
We must respect each other and meet women who correspond to our principles of life.
I didn't leave the hobby with a smile, I left because of illness.
But as soon as it was possible, I started dating again.
An exceedingly important thing is to keep control over the frequency, otherwise there will be forfeiture.
That said, I said to myself that I have worked all my life, and now that I live alone, and that my children have a good life, it is time for me to think of myself.
And that's what I've been doing for several years now.
We must respect each other and meet women who correspond to our principles of life.
I`ve thought of quitting several times in the last few years. But merb keeps drawing be back. The best way to quit, in my opinion would be to cut yourslelf off from any sex related social media......and masturbate regularly and often.
I haven`t quit yet but I`ve cut back from 3 girls a week a few years ago to 2 or 3 a month these days. Before it was variety and quantity, now its quality and repeats.
I haven`t quit yet but I`ve cut back from 3 girls a week a few years ago to 2 or 3 a month these days. Before it was variety and quantity, now its quality and repeats.
Yes, you have to be aware that you are paying for a service, and this service is not an obligation.
But all these women are doing this for the money, and you are, to a greater or lesser degree, an ATM.
But all these women are doing this for the money, and you are, to a greater or lesser degree, an ATM.
True, but if you and her have a comfort zone and great chemistry....and you both enjoy out of the vanilla zone kink, then expect more extras from her .Like my friend Marsouin said ofenly (prompt rétablissement) we are all wallets!!!
You can be close and having fun with your ATF but at the end don't expect her to show up if you don't have your envelope prepared for her!
As stated by others, I enjoy this hobby, so I’ll keep doing it. Contrary to the previous post about quitting, we can enjoy the finer things in life AND the hobby as well. It’s not one or the other.
It’s like when we’re enjoying a glass of wine during supper, it doesn’t mean that we’re alcoholics. It’s about doing things in moderation.
And I’m happy when I see some of my favourites, and when it’s over, I look forward to the next encounter. But I look forward to other things in life as well!
Needless to say, I disagree with the previous post about quitting the hobby. If I enjoy it, I can afford it and it’s not taking over my life, then it’s all good. To each his own!
It’s like when we’re enjoying a glass of wine during supper, it doesn’t mean that we’re alcoholics. It’s about doing things in moderation.
And I’m happy when I see some of my favourites, and when it’s over, I look forward to the next encounter. But I look forward to other things in life as well!
Needless to say, I disagree with the previous post about quitting the hobby. If I enjoy it, I can afford it and it’s not taking over my life, then it’s all good. To each his own!
You can disagree based on your situation and priorities in life. Others may have issues , like health , age, financials and getting into a serious relationship with a partner.
Besides most people who quit the hobby don`t talk about it....they just do it.
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