Expectations per price point

[Rebaynia]

you mean a racist ... FIFY

Moron still stands.
I haven't met a racist yet that has any common sense. To judge someone solely on the color of their skin, and expect that that makes a difference in the quality of the person they are speaking to... MORON.
The same racist person is going out on the beach to get a tan to add color to their pale ass, to look attractive, or spray tanning themselves, and then says someone who doesn't need to cook themselves, or paint themselves is unattractive???

 

[Rebaynia]

I am not trying to defend any kind of racism but to simply say that all people with racists ideology are of low intelligence is sadly inaccurate. Yes, there are the blind followers which you have described, but unfortunately the leaders of said groups are often shrewd manipulators and people in position of power.

I tend to like you and don't really wish to debate the term I chose to use, but I mean more than just racist people, as it is not just white men who act that way.

The issues with the morons (yes i am holding fast to titling them as such) who do reach out in these awful ways, are likely upset that she caught their attention because she is attractive, and when they saw she was out of their league financially, choose to insult her with whatever they can, because they are the ones who don't have enough common sense to just move on. In an attempt to bring her down to their level. It lacks class, and it lacks intellect.
And I use the word 'moron', because it isn't just racist people. It is people who see dark skin as the easiest target to attack her by. The same person has a whole slew of insults for any woman who turns him down as well.
Often is the same person who will call a drop dead gorgeous woman of any ethnic group, ugly, just because she didn't agree to see him.
My referance is to more than just racist people.

 

[Rebaynia]

I don't think we are arguing the same point nor do I think that we are in disagreement on what you said here. In fact, I 100% agree with you that the people who reach out in such a manner are morons / idiots / assholes or whatever you want to call them. What I was trying to convey was that not every racist automatically lacks intellect, and I do not think that the smart ones (they regrettably exists and are a much bigger problem than the morons) are the ones resorting to such verbal attacks even when anonymous.

Glad we agree, as I wasn't intentionally identifying only racist people either in my original post. But the kind of people who would retaliate in such a manner. It felt like having words put in my mouth when correcting me to interpret it to mean just racists, which is another can of worms all together.

 

[Allan Quatermain]

Years ago I knew a lady that offered massage for slightly less than other massage ladies. She was in her mid 40s and so in order to compete she offered a better deal. She seemed to have no shortage of clients. I know that she owned the 6-plex apartment building she lived and worked in, she may have owned other properties. I am sure she is well off these days because she worked hard and built up security for her future.

Is it better to get a high price for the 1 or 2 clients a day or is it better to have 3 or 4 regulars at a reasonable price?

 

[DouMan]

Years ago I knew a lady that offered massage for slightly less than other massage ladies. She was in her mid 40s and so in order to compete she offered a better deal. She seemed to have no shortage of clients. I know that she owned the 6-plex apartment building she lived and worked in, she may have owned other properties. I am sure she is well off these days because she worked hard and built up security for her future.

Is it better to get a high price for the 1 or 2 clients a day or is it better to have 3 or 4 regulars at a reasonable price?

I see it as math and probabilities.

For the 1-2 clients ... lose 1, you lose 50% of your income,

the 3-4 clients ... lose 1, you lose 25%. Easier to absorb and replace

 

[Giselle Montreal]

I see it as math and probabilities.

For the 1-2 clients ... lose 1, you lose 50% of your income,

the 3-4 clients ... lose 1, you lose 25%. Easier to absorb and replace

But if with 4 clients at a lower rate you make the same salary as 2 clients at a higher rate...

The maths in deciding what's the sweet spot for your pricing is way more complicated than people think.

 

[DouMan]

But if with 4 clients at a lower rate you make the same salary as 2 clients at a higher rate...

The maths in deciding what's the sweet spot for your pricing is way more complicated than people think.

2 clients / 1000$ = 500ea

4 clients / 1000$ = 250ea

Lose 1 500$ or 250$

It goes without saying that many things may be taken into account starting with hours worked for said income.

My example is more based on the probable loss factor risk assessment

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

Unfortunately high price doesn’t fit with service quality. Yeah some girls are tremendous and there’s a price asked. No issue with that. But ( I said but) once you pay high price service and girls do faked moaning ( girls bright guy knows that) it’s ( sort of ) humiliation. So as a sp consumer you should explore see different kinds of girl different price asked and you will realise that the highest rate is not necessary the best service. ( sorry if I disappointed some )

Certainly, if you carefully read my post, you will realize that there is no need to look any further then Vog Agency in terms of rates, which are set at $250 per hour. Trust me, this rate is dirt cheap when considering the exceptional service, quality, and beauty you receive in return.

I agree that paying a higher rate does not necessarily guarantee better service or quality compared to agencies like Vog etc. It seems that some individuals fail to grasp that a higher price tag often reflects the attractiveness of the service provider rather than the actual quality of service. Essentially, you may be paying for a Victoria's Secret model-like appearance, only to be disappointed and remembered by subpar service. Conversely, opting for an agency like Vog ensures that you will remember the exceptional service and performance in bed.

It is crucial to emphasize that in this industry, you are compensating for the service provided, not just the physical appearance. I can confidently mention several individuals at Vog Agency who could easily charge $1000 per hour based on their beauty, service, and quality.

 

[Dave in Phoenix]

I am more interested in personality and sensuality than just the sex stuff after slim body, smaller natural breasts etc. I screen based on price avoiding higher prices since it is probably more related to sex performance vs my other interests. Even when I was young, that was my interest. I am 78 in a few months but have not found age to be any negative being more of a grandpa to most escorts, massage gals, or strippers. Some like us older gents.

In Montreal, I am looking at the $250-$280/hr range, especially outcall since I don't know my way around Montreal vs. Toronto. I sometimes find potential gems even if reviews rank low on "performance" if they hint of other factors... cuddling, massaging, which I love to do on escorts, any hints of personality, etc., as long as they are in my price range and other things are equal.

Some of my best experiences have been with black women who met my other screening.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Why are we reviving another thread about rates??? It's really becoming a tired subject honestly.

 

[Dixie20]

Why are we reviving another thread about rates??? It's really becoming a tired subject honestly.

I would refer you to my initial post and why I started the thread in the first place.

 

[LC18]

I’m just noticing that a member who was banned was liking his own posts with his second account

 

[TheJames101]

I’m just noticing that a member who was banned was liking his own posts with his second account

I wonder if, at some point, his two accounts engaged in conversation. Probably had good chemistry.

 

[minutemenX]

I tend to like you and don't really wish to debate the term I chose to use, but I mean more than just racist people, as it is not just white men who act that way.

The issues with the morons (yes i am holding fast to titling them as such) who do reach out in these awful ways, are likely upset that she caught their attention because she is attractive, and when they saw she was out of their league financially, choose to insult her with whatever they can, because they are the ones who don't have enough common sense to just move on. In an attempt to bring her down to their level. It lacks class, and it lacks intellect.
And I use the word 'moron', because it isn't just racist people. It is people who see dark skin as the easiest target to attack her by. The same person has a whole slew of insults for any woman who turns him down as well.
Often is the same person who will call a drop dead gorgeous woman of any ethnic group, ugly, just because she didn't agree to see him.
My referance is to more than just racist people.

I would estimate that more than 50% people have some sort of prejudice against race, gender, age, occupation, ethnicity, political affiliation etc., etc, and I agree they are MORONS as having prejudice against any person is moronic. By the way I found that a lot of seemingly intelligent escorts have prejudice against clients. They bind all clients in the same stereotyped “client” category, and it often pose a barrier for more humane interactions.

 

[LC18]

I wonder if, at some point, his two accounts engaged in conversation. Probably had good chemistry.

“That’s crazy bro, I could have written that myself”

 

[Fradi]

Why are we reviving another thread about rates??? It's really becoming a tired subject honestly.

It may be tiring but price is a legitimate concern on anything you purchase.
I don’t believe in complaints about any individual but where the industry is heading and comparing value and services, trends to other countries and cities is normal .
In the end we all have a choice and a budget, personally I don’t mind paying more for an Indy who I know who I have chemistry with but I also have my limits when it comes to price for an escort just like for any thing else I pay for.
For now I can’t complain the ladies I am seeing are amazing.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

It may be tiring but price is a legitimate concern on anything you purchase.
I don’t believe in complaints about any individual but where the industry is heading and comparing value and services, trends to other countries and cities is normal .
In the end we all have a choice and a budget, personally I don’t mind paying more for an Indy who I know who I have chemistry with but I also have my limits when it comes to price for an escort just like for any thing else I pay for.
For now I can’t complain the ladies I am seeing are amazing.

We are not objects to be purchased tho and I know you're aware of that, you're intelligent enough to know. I just personally feel like it makes SPs who are on this forum uncomfortable when people discuss rates... Specially a subject like ''expectations per price point''.. All of us who are indies choose to have certain rates and it doesn't mean the service is better or worse. I believe some SP's have high rates because they have a lot of experience in the industry and they want to be compensated fairly as a result of that.. For me, personally, when my rates were agency level or lower, my clientele was much different. My rates aren't that much higher now, but the gentlemen I see mostly are all really cool and I get along with them well.

I also really dislike when clients imply that women over a certain age or with certain body types or don't look like super models or other things like that should have lower rates. I just don't agree with it personally and it makes all of us feel bad.

 

[themonk83]

We are not objects to be purchased tho and I know you're aware of that, you're intelligent enough to know. I just personally feel like it makes SPs who are on this forum uncomfortable when people discuss rates... Specially a subject like ''expectations per price point''.. All of us who are indies choose to have certain rates and it doesn't mean the service is better or worse.

I got the ick about OP post. Like if she's in the $500 range, I expect a face pic. I'm like you do know why most are face in no matter what they charge. Sigh

 

[LC18]

It may be tiring but price is a legitimate concern on anything you purchase.
I don’t believe in complaints about any individual but where the industry is heading and comparing value and services, trends to other countries and cities is normal .
In the end we all have a choice and a budget, personally I don’t mind paying more for an Indy who I know who I have chemistry with but I also have my limits when it comes to price for an escort just like for any thing else I pay for.
For now I can’t complain the ladies I am seeing are amazing.

Fair enough but do you think a new thread every 3 weeks is what’s going to lower the rates and better the services?

The people you (general you) complain about aren’t coming here to read those threads. If you don’t like the rates and services don’t go back and eventually they’ll understand

 

[LC18]

I got the ick about OP post. Like if she's in the $500 range, I expect a face pic. I'm like you do know why most are face in no matter what they charge. Sigh

Believe it or not, actually it’s not hard to believe but a lot of men message me to ask for unblurred photos.

I have to explain to them that if I wanted to show my face I would have done so on my ads