Yeah well Montreal is not Toronto or Vancouver. People seem to have forgotten that Montreal was in economic decline for a long while and that cost of living and salaries are STILL lower here so escort agencies prices reflect that.
Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning
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Yet if you follow the abolitionist discourse you would know that all sex workers are victims. Some of the them are just not aware of it yet. In time they will see themselves as such.
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I can confirm the blackmailing, I was a part of XO in my early days. A reason I never exposed myself as an XO provider after the outrageous experiences I lived through my first 4 months of escorting, I was young naive …. All I can say is I am grateful they finally got caught and are no longer in business !!!!
I think it's really weird that you are weaponizing abolitionist discourse in order to maintain the status quo about abuse and exploitation in the sex industry, but that's just me. lol
Nobody here has said that all sex workers are ''victims'' with no voice and no options. There's a difference between talking about the violence that sex workers experience, and removing their agency & reducing them to nothing but victims.
If it is explained to them properly, someone can understand very well the difference between a sex worker who sees good clients who respect her boundaries, and someone who is being exploited. They can understand the difference between a respectful client and someone who is just trying to exploit weakness. Same thing for employers.. this industry is not regulated, so obviously there will be huge differences between how a business is managed compared to another, even if there are certain patterns that come back.
I think it's really odd to say ''nobody should talk about XO or about abusive clients because we want to maintain a good image of the industry''.. uh.. sounds like this lacks nuance, but ok
Je ne pense pas avoir fait ce genre de comparaison ailleurs. À moins que tu compte quand j'ai mentionné que les SP qui n'aiment pas leurs conditions peuvent walk away si tel est leur choix, comme n'importe qui d'autres. Ce qui d'ailleurs semble arriver très souvent.
Ce que je remarque c'est que certaines ici ne semblent vraiment pas apprécier quand on écrit des choses avec lesquelles elles sont en désaccord ou qu'on les challenge un peu même si on reste très poli.
Je vais avouer que je suis pas sûr de saisir ton commentaire sur la douche. Mon but était juste de souligner que 280/h ce n'est pas un taux horaire de crève faim. Et oui je sais que les escortes ne font pas 40h semaine, qu'il y a des particularités, etc. Still. Il y a plein de monde qui ont des job essentielles qui font en dessous de 30$/heures
Agencies don't only advertise on merb, and there is probably a context behind that.. I don't think they would have been able to press charges for that reason alone. This reminds me of that case that occurred a while back, a guy who filmed an appointment without a girl's consent, and she took him to court. They were able to convict him, but they only pressed charges for buying sex. This was an excuse to convict him. They wouldn't have done it otherwise.
What part of “that has nothing to do with money” was not clear?
Mais elles ne font pas 280$/h par contre. Pas loin mais pas 280$, parfois 200$ parfois 150$ si elles sont malchanceuses.
The attitude and entitlement are very high on the lists of reasons providers hate to work in Montreal. Can’t blame them
I am so incredibly sorry that you’ve experienced that and even more so that you have to see men defending exploitation on this thread
It blows my mind. That would make for a great TV show. Can you imagine LE operating something like MERB? They would know almost every SP's and clients in the city. Not mentioning that the program would finance itself.
Je ne veux surtout pas défendre XO ou toutes autres agences mais, ce point ne semble pas avoir été prouvé. Si ça avait été le cas, l’agence aurait été fermée ipso facto et des poursuites entamées.
Ça me semble être un cas de dénonciation, où, après enquête, on a rien trouvé comme preuve. Mais l’article le mentionne uniquement dans un but sensationnaliste. Je peux me tromper mais, il n’y a pas de trace d’un procès dans ce sens.
L'article de la presse ne mentionne pas d'accusations en lien avec des mineurs non plus.
Ils n'ont pas besoin et on est pas stupide...
Y'a des centaines de salons de massage et des dizaines d'agences d'escorte, le tout est toléré à Montréal et environs... mais quand tu touches aux mineurs, ce n'est plus toléré, avec raison.
Sure but, giving money to your employer cannot be part of the consequences, dude come on, its total absurdity .
C'est toléré car ce serait pire si ce ne l'étais pas. Tout serait vraiment clandestin... Ce qui attire encore pire rapace.
Like I said before just slightly kinder and perhaps not as violent pimps.
Yes XO SP came and left, how much blackmail and coercion was going on only they know but all indications are that there was a fair amount.
Does this make the owners “ better pimps” does this make them “ better scumbags” not in my books.
Does the fact that you were abused by your employer make these pimps better.
I worked 8 years for a company owned by someone born in the same country as I and actually a sponsor of the team I played for professionally also.
I was taken advantage of, underpayed, probably one of the worst places I ever worked in my life, yes I could have left at anytime but I learned a trade that later allowed me to travel the world, earn an amazing salary and be able to afford a much better life style for my family. I knew I had to stay and finish what I started no matter how difficult.
Having a choice to leave is not always the answer especially if the owners can blackmail you and make your life difficult . If you are a naive young woman with no back up and no one to look out for you for sure it must be extremely difficult and scary.
