Have you ever met a SP that you were hyped up for but then met her & felt so disappointed?

[EastWind]

Michelle of Montreal Sex City. Everyone raved about her and her pics were so enticing. I was “warned” before hand that I might find her face too masculine. Wrote it off since one of the people who warned me was “Amanda Geneva.” When I opened the door I was like oh this is not going to work and gave her $20.

Marika also from Montreal Sex City. She was very fit. Her pics were also enticing. Lovely body and amazing personality but was not attracted to her face. Went with the session though. One shot and after gave each other a massage where she finished off the second shot with a HJ.

 

[god101]

450 to 600$ or more an hour at that. For 450 to 600$ i could pay a mamasan at a random Massage parlor and experience every girl in the establishment, that I'm attracted to, for the next 4 hours. Which is totally something I'd do.
I never understood the high cost of "High end" escorts.
I mean no disrespect. Im sure some of you have your justifications behind it, I just don't get it

that's the big problem, if you charge that amount, you gotta give nothing less than a flawless service

 

[mtlspacial]

that's the big problem, if you charge that amount, you gotta give nothing less than a flawless service

"Flawless service" is entirely subjective. While some clients develop unrealistic expectations just because they pay a premium, price is driven by basic supply and demand. Providers price themselves differently based on their goals: some prefer fewer clients at a premium rate, while others rely on a higher volume of clients at a lower rate.

Ultimately, a higher price tag doesn't guarantee "fireworks." It often just reflects conventional aesthetics or marketing rather than a superior or more enthusiastic performance.

 

[god101]

"Flawless service" is entirely subjective. While some clients develop unrealistic expectations just because they pay a premium, price is driven by basic supply and demand. Providers price themselves differently based on their goals: some prefer fewer clients at a premium rate, while others rely on a higher volume of clients at a lower rate.

Ultimately, a higher price tag doesn't guarantee "fireworks." It often just reflects conventional aesthetics or marketing rather than a superior or more enthusiastic performance.

you're wrong! a higher price tag SHOULD guarantee "fireworks", just like anything you buy

 

[mtlspacial]

you're wrong! a higher price tag SHOULD guarantee "fireworks", just like anything you buy

I understand your point of view, but fireworks may or may not happen regardless of price. It may happen one session, and not the next.

You're dealing with human beings, not machines. Performance can vary at times regardless of what you pay.

At my job, I make considerably more than the industry average. It doesn't mean I don't screw up once in a while and never have a substandard performance.

So, why should I hold an SP to an impossible standard.

Yes, you'll need to pay extra for the Instagram/only fan princess or the fitness babe, but it doesn't mean she'll have the talent to please you better in bed 100% of the time. Doesn't work what way.

Of course, if you're disappointed, you can always elect to go with someone else and hope for a better result.

 

[twenty4seven]

you're wrong! a higher price tag SHOULD guarantee "fireworks", just like anything you buy

Fireworks for who? You? You're not the only customer in the market and maybe that experience isn't tailored for you. That doesn't mean it isn't better or worse just that you won't perceive the value in the money you spend past a certain price point. This world is full of things many find way overpriced that still give those that can afford it "fireworks."

 

[LeDodo]

you're wrong! a higher price tag SHOULD guarantee "fireworks", just like anything you buy

Well to a certain extend I agree but the tricky part is that a fireworks are different depending of lot of criteria ...
To make the fireworks enjoyable from a customer's perspective communication of expectations is needed with the fireworks engineer.

 

[EastWind]

you're wrong! a higher price tag SHOULD guarantee "fireworks", just like anything you buy

Nothing is a guarantee. Also just because there were fireworks the first time does not mean this will happen the second time and the next.

We are dealing with human emotions here and that is very unpredictable and at times volatile.

 

[Julia Sky]

Fireworks for who? You? You're not the only customer in the market and maybe that experience isn't tailored for you. That doesn't mean it isn't better or worse just that you won't perceive the value in the money you spend past a certain price point. This world is full of things many find way overpriced that still give those that can afford it "fireworks."

Unrelated but it's funny, the first time I was mentioned in this thread, you said in a comment that we had not yet met. Now that we have, would you have any comments regarding my ability to suck the soul out of people? Hahaha

I feel like this guy repeatedly fails to understand the very simple concept that his ideal session isn't everyone's ideal session. Some people see fireworks where he sees an empty sky and vice versa.

Honestly, his post history is a little odd and I'm not even convinced we did meet. I have a hypothesis but I won't say more lol.

 

[Blackitlightning]

I understand that perspective, but there are a few reasons why independents often charge more.
With an independent, you’re communicating directly with the provider from start to finish. There’s no booker, no agency filtering messages, and no middleman involved. That usually creates a more personalized experience and allows both people to build some rapport before meeting.
Agency appointments can sometimes feel a bit more “rush rush” because they’re often structured around volume and tight scheduling. Independents generally have more flexibility and can offer a more relaxed, personalized atmosphere rather than a one-size-fits-all experience.
Many clients also appreciate that it feels less transactional and more natural, with a stronger GFE-style connection and attention to chemistry.

Agencies and independents both serve different markets, but for many clients, the direct communication, flexibility, and more personal experience are what justify the higher rate.

Just do whatever float your boat and don’t shame either business lol

I kinda disagree with the rapport part. While the middleman is cut out, there is no real connection from Indys generally. Most independent SPs charge for any conversation that is not strictly surrounding booking so when I see an independent vs an agency lady, there is almost no difference in vibe at the beginning of the meeting. I have only seen 1 SP in St. John's who texted before meeting as a way to build the anticipation before the day and she was actually an agency girl. It was just 5 minutes but it was a packed 5 minutes of flowing conversation about hobbies and turn ons. I had to tip her generously just for that alone. That meeting felt like an GFE. And she checked up on me after as well, 30 minutes after. I had to keep telling myself that it's not real for up to 3 days after the meet.

I have zero problems with SPs who watch time as my own time is precious, so I have never felt rushed from anyone. The only real difference I personally find is the flexibility in scheduling a meeting. While I can afford either, I lean more agency as I barely see a difference. Of course, this is just my own personal experience

 

[Blackitlightning]

I don't completely understand the point of comparing us to Rolex when Lea explained perfectly clearly why the experience of seeing an indy provider can be very different from booking an escort at an agency.

I get that a lot of clients just want a 1 hour session that's basically a succession of acronyms, but not everyone does. Agencies use a certain format and they dictate industry standards, which by the way are not set in stone and have changed often over the years and are different based on location. I think it's a legitimate choice to work for an agency and I can see why people do it.

My issue is that as an indy whose only source of income is sex work, I end up having to recreate that format. Obviously a client who is into that type of experience may not see the point in paying more, and often I have to offer an incentive for these clients to see me, like including acronyms that are normally offered as extras, a special or another way to make them curious about booking me even if their preference is agencies.

However a client who is looking for more of a connection, longer dates, an unrushed service, a new experience etc will often find it more advantageous to book an indy over somebody who is at an agency. It's also easier for clients to know who they're dealing with when they book certain indies because they read our social media, they see our personal style, etc. It's easier to figure out if it's a good match, and that's important for a lot of clients...

Just for perspective, in other big cities, agency rates are much higher than here and closer to what your average reputable indy in Montreal charges. This comparison to luxury items doesn't hold up when "high end escorting" is far from common here, maybe to Merb users 350 to 500$ per hour is too expensive but this is considered mid range in most bigger Canadian cities.. even in Halifax where you have no agencies and very few providers, clients expect to pay 350+ for GFE. In a lot of places, GFE doesn't even exist. In the past, it was also way less common even here..

Just look at what a lot of American providers charge, most of whom don't even offer GFE or not officially and very YMMV. It'll make less sense to compare indies here to Rolex watches..

I know all of this might seem off topic but I think those are relevant reflections that might help some reframe their experiences.

I love reading your responses on this board. You are so intelligent as well as realistic in how you bring across your points.

 

[Julia Sky]

I kinda disagree with the rapport part. While the middleman is cut out, there is no real connection from Indys generally. Most independent SPs charge for any conversation that is not strictly surrounding booking

Most? According to who? The vast majority of indies have exchanged texts with their clients before/after a booking. Just not all day every day like some would expect. We also tend to spend more time discussing the details of a booking (and in a more personalized fashion).

 

[Blackitlightning]

Most? According to who? The vast majority of indies have exchanged texts with their clients before/after a booking. Just not all day every day like some would expect. We also tend to spend more time discussing the details of a booking (and in a more personalized fashion).

Fair point on the most part, although I did specify at the end that its according to my own experience. I cannot recall booking an independent who held genuine conversation with me outside of booking details. And personalizing a booking is still a booking conversation. And as I alluded to in my previous post, I am not looking for an all day communication because that is highly unrealistic. But getting just 5 minutes of it felt so rare to me, I valued it immensely when it happened.

 

[Julia Sky]

But getting just 5 minutes of it felt so rare to me, I valued it immensely when it happened.

Yes I wasn't trying to imply that you are looking for all day convo! I was talking in general. In my experience it isn't rare for indies do to a bit of conversation (especially with their returning clients), the only time it becomes a bother is when clients text all day or very very regularly

When I said personalized booking experience I mean that (for me at least) it's easier to discuss the specific details of the service etc and I can tailor my answers to the client in a much warmer and friendly fashion than "yes she offers x acronym". I didn't mean that this is the only subject I (or indies) talk about though haha

 

[twenty4seven]

Unrelated but it's funny, the first time I was mentioned in this thread, you said in a comment that we had not yet met. Now that we have, would you have any comments regarding my ability to suck the soul out of people? Hahaha

I feel like this guy repeatedly fails to understand the very simple concept that his ideal session isn't everyone's ideal session. Some people see fireworks where he sees an empty sky and vice versa.

Honestly, his post history is a little odd and I'm not even convinced we did meet. I have a hypothesis but I won't say more lol.

I think my review speaks for itself . I went back to read what I said here and I stand by it: If I lived any closer I'd need to be on an IV drip bc you (and your indy colleagues) drain me so hard I'd eventually be shooting dust when I cum.

Some people just can't reconcile that their expectations are unrealistic and that's why they're disappointed. I know money is money and people want to get something mindblowing for what they paid but once you unburden yourself from what you THINK is gonna happen you open yourself up to all the things that CAN happen, and I think that's a better way to approach this IMO.

 

[Julia Sky]

once you unburden yourself from what you THINK is gonna happen you open yourself up to all the things that CAN happen, and I think that's a better way to approach this IMO.

This! And not just this but many things in life!

 

[twenty4seven]

I kinda disagree with the rapport part. While the middleman is cut out, there is no real connection from Indys generally. Most independent SPs charge for any conversation that is not strictly surrounding booking so when I see an independent vs an agency lady, there is almost no difference in vibe at the beginning of the meeting.

Weird thing is that I believe the exact same thing, in reverse. I've only seen 1 agency girl and the time constraints combined with the provider's style made it hard for me to build a genuine connection. We got there eventually but I had to suspend disbelief for the first half of the session bc it seemed contrived and fake. Once I figured her out it was great but it was a weird shift from what I'm used to which is all independent women.

I would say it's the complete opposite for me. The indy providers I've been with have almost all been WAY more adept at building connection and I have such strong sexual/conversational/emotional connection with some of them that it's no wonder I've seen many 5/10/15+ times.

 

[EastWind]

I love reading your responses on this board. You are so intelligent as well as realistic in how you bring across your points.

Sooo…. When is the wedding?

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I love reading your responses on this board. You are so intelligent as well as realistic in how you bring across your points.

And I don't charge for conversation

 

[Blackitlightning]

Sooo…. When is the wedding?

Lmao, I wish I could tell you