I am so sorry to read this. Sometimes therapy can be accessed for free in Quebec (Clsc, CAVAC/IVAC) but it’s worth mentionning that is likely not gonna be adequate for that type of situation. She deserve a good therapist that is empathetic and knowledgeable towards sex workers. Therapy can be covered by private insurance but she probably don’t have them. A good therapist will likely charge 100-200$/ session. Wishing her healing
Fundraiser to Support Lola the Brat After Violent Assault by a Client
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A reminder also of why sex work should be done legally, like any other profession. It would avoid people having to meet underground, and allow for providing SPs with real working conditions and environments. I don't think this client would have been able to get away with it in a well managed work place.
It's not needed! IVAC can compensate victims even if they do not wish to report to the police. The perpetrator does not even need to be identified. I highly suggest she reaches out to them for information if she hasn't already but also understand that she may not have the energy to do so, and that's ok.
I'll be donating. My heart breaks for her. Lola is such a sweet soul and kind person, nobody deserves this treatment and especially not her.
To my awareness there is no time limit either. You can contact IVAC weeks or even months after the incident.
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There is a time limit of 3 years except in 3 specific scenarios (domestic violence, violence on a child or sexual violence). In her case I don't know if, depending on context, it could be considered sexual violence (and we don't really need to know, I'm just saying this as it's good information to have, anyone could end up in a violent situation). Regardless, 3 years is a good start.
Regardless of the measures she decides to take or not take, I hope she's able to heal from this. It's what matters the most... Her well being.
This is awful to hear. She's a lovely person. I'll pitch in.
Is the Montreal SW community close enough to exact revenge on this john? I've met some agency drivers. They are sometimes huge guys.
Is the Montreal SW community close enough to exact revenge on this john? I've met some agency drivers. They are sometimes huge guys.
I am so, so sorry that this happened to Lola honestly no sw should ever have to be faced with this, I hope she was able to file a police report as this could aid in bring this a hole to justice. I do not know her personally or her immigration status but I can tell you with confidence as a permanent resident now and several years ago, I called the police on a client who refused to pay me for services rendered ( gfe plus provider I Might add) I called the police on him and two officers questioned us separately. He had two choices; pay me for my services, or be charged for theft under $5000.00. One of them walked his ass to the ATM and he gave me the money. I really don't think nothing will happen to her if she reports it and this will send a strong message to the assaulters, bbfs pushers and clients who refuse to pay. Even the mere act or pushing for bbfs can lead to an assault charge for the people who need to hear and read this loudly. I do understand why girls might be afraid to go to the police but I took the risk and it won in my favour.
Also, to the clients that are so scared of screening, can you see why we ask now??? After several years I really hope she gets justice for this piece of shit. I donated after seeing this and I hope he gets what's coming to him.
Also, to the clients that are so scared of screening, can you see why we ask now??? After several years I really hope she gets justice for this piece of shit. I donated after seeing this and I hope he gets what's coming to him.
Totally Unbelievable. Such monsters out there causing harm to a vulnerable woman who as has probably been through enough in life. Hope she goes to the police if she hasn't already. She really has nothing to fear dealing with police. We are in a different climate today.
Yes so true. Recalling a quote attributable to Margaret Atwood :
"Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them.”
Julia Sky described Lola beautifully - she is a a sweet soul and kind person. Heartbreaking to think anyone could treat her this way after she's brought so much happiness to people.
Very true in our industry. Men are afraid of being scammed and we are afraid of being attacked/killed.
So what happened in this case? Did she fail to get the guy's name and phone number? She had plenty of experience as an agency girl and indy and so she had to know the importance of doing basic screening procedures.
If she does have the guy's info but refuses to cooperate with the police, then what's the point of screening? If she has his info and adds it to a private bad client list, that might help other girls avoid him in the future. But it doesn't really help prevent assaults like this if the only risk is to wind up on a secret bad client list.
It's not easy for a crime victim to talk with the police but it must be done even if the victim is embarrassed to answer awkward questions. I get tired of hearing excuses like "they won't believe me." If she has the guy's info, she must talk to the police and if she didn't get his screening info, then other girls should use her assault as a reminder that safety comes first for indies. Agency girls should also put safety first but the nature of the agency business model does provide a somewhat higher level of safety.
Let’s not victim blame. Useless and uncalled for.
I don’t know the details of what happened to her and I will not speculate. When the details come out, I certainly won’t be sharing them here.
You could have been a SW for 25 years, a rotten apple is still rotten. If a man wants to do bad, he will do bad. If you have his real life info and the strength to contact the authorities, you can do so.
It does not, 99% of agencies don't screen and let's be honest, it takes a lot less time for a deranged client to beat up someone than it does for a provider to wait for a security guy to come up to the appartment, and that's *if* we can even access our phone long enough to call for help if something happens. "Protection" is just an illusion.
I wanted to ask the question before, but did not want to derail the thread, but since it is going in that direction now, I might as well:
If I deduct correctly, the whole screening including a phone number only works if an assault or similar happens in the spur of the moment. In the case where it is premediated surely the culprit will give a fake ID or a pre-paid number that can be disabled right after?
I also wonder if the perpetrator in this case even realizes his wrong doing. You'd be surprised how some men would categorize those marks as rough play and part of PSE.
I wanted to ask the question before, but did not want to derail the thread, but since it is going in that direction now, I might as well:
If I deduct correctly, the whole screening including a phone number only works if an assault or similar happens in the spur of the moment. In the case where it is premediated surely the culprit will give a fake ID or a pre-paid number that can be disabled right after?
I also wonder if the perpetrator in this case even realizes his wrong doing. You'd be surprised how some men would categorize those marks as rough play and part of PSE.
That’s a very good point.
Oh my god, that's absolutely awful. I'm not a violent man, but I wish I could get my hands on the guy who did this. Disgusting.
Agencies do not provide security by careful screening or by having a driver/security guy standing by. The greater security is by providing a record of and witnesses for the encounter. By "witnesses" I obviously don't mean anyone who sees or watches the client. Instead, here's an example of how an agency provides security to a girl:
After Suzy the escort is booked for an encounter and then assaulted during the encounter, Joe the booker and Steve the driver can provide testimony to prove that Suzy the escort was definitely booked in room 401 of the Birks Hotel at 4PM Monday and she was dropped off there at 3:55 PM. Furthermore she called Joe at 4:01PM to say that she arrived and that everything was OK (or not). The first step in investigating a crime is to determine whether a crime occurred, where and when it occurred and who the victim is. With an agency, it's not just Suzy telling her story to the police or to her friends. It's Suzy with Joe and Steve to back up her story.
Contrast that scenario with an indy's routine. The only proof she has that her assault took place in a certain place at a certain time is some records of phone calls. If a thug wants to assault an escort, he is much safer picking an indy as a client. The routine of booking an agency girl exposes him to much less risk of getting charged with a crime.
Thugs are not that smart but they are also not dumb. They know what the odds of getting caught are in different situations and in the case of an agency girl, they know that there is a trail of incriminating evidence if they assault an agency girl. That is how agency girls have more security than indy girls.
Admittedly, some indies may do what they can to mimic the agency model of creating "witnesses" to an encounter, but I doubt that most do.
All this is important because the belief that "women don't lie" has been proven to be...a lie.
I am surprised that I need to explain this to anyone, especially to an escort.
So you think the booker is gonna go to the police to tell them he was doing something illegal but while it was happening someone did something worse?
Being a booker isn’t legal.
Anyways please let’s remain on topic. It’s about raising money for Lola’s recovery not about safe practices and whatnot.
Being a booker isn’t legal.
Anyways please let’s remain on topic. It’s about raising money for Lola’s recovery not about safe practices and whatnot.
This is the part i dont understand well! Ok for asking screening info(agree 100% with that,me i have nothing to hide in my life,nothing)but if something happen,like its just happen to Lola,the victim dont contact the authorities?so the screening is useless,no??
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Can someone explain to me how GoFund operates?
About 24 hours after this thread was posted, the goal was $6k. I was about to donate but did not have my cr. card within reach. Forty-eight hours later, I go to its website and note that initial goal has been reached and it's new goal is $8k.
This time I held back from paying as I found it strange the goal had been upped.
Today, it's goal, having been reached again, is now $15k.
Does someone have an explanation?
About 24 hours after this thread was posted, the goal was $6k. I was about to donate but did not have my cr. card within reach. Forty-eight hours later, I go to its website and note that initial goal has been reached and it's new goal is $8k.
This time I held back from paying as I found it strange the goal had been upped.
Today, it's goal, having been reached again, is now $15k.
Does someone have an explanation?
