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Lunaseraphim

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No...

It's always different for everyone, and the experience likely varies between agencies and independents. Some friends say this and that months are slow but not for me, and vice versa. Some months are slower than others—and some seem slower but I end up making a pretty good month, it's often a perception—but I never noticed a pattern year after year.
I agree. Sometimes some of our colleagues had a bad month and I had a great month, and sometimes it's the other way around. It depends on many factors. The types of bookings change week after week and month after month too. November has been a great month for me so far. Last year I surprisingly had lots of clients in february, then march was slower. Go figure.
 

Lunaseraphim

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I wonder if the quantity makes up for it. The hobby is more popular now after COVID due to more people being lonely. And with the economy not so great, I feel like more people are seeing SPs less (I know I am).

I wonder if it used to be 10 sessions in a week, that 8 would be regulars, 2 would be new. And now it's 3 regulars, and 7 would be new. I wonder if that is the case.
You have to remember also that a lot of our clients are wealthier people who are travelling for work or leisure and they are part of a class that isn't as affected by the economy. And you are right, more people are lonely as well, and even if they don't see SP's that often, the quantity makes up for it. Some of my repeat clients I see once every 2-3 months only.
 
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I wonder if the quantity makes up for it. The hobby is more popular now after COVID due to more people being lonely. And with the economy not so great, I feel like more people are seeing SPs less (I know I am).

I wonder if it used to be 10 sessions in a week, that 8 would be regulars, 2 would be new. And now it's 3 regulars, and 7 would be new. I wonder if that is the case.
I couldn't say. I now have far more returning and regular clients than ever before, and there's consistently a strong flow of new clients as well. My business before and after Covid is dramatically different too. I have to say that for many years before Covid, I was travelling with my clients a lot and it didn't give a lot of space for other clients to develop a regular or long-term client-provider relationship. When they wanted to see me again, most often I wasn't available since almost every month I was travelling, so my meetings were more sporadic. Strangely, my business is better and more lucrative without all those travels in my schedule. If only I had known...
 

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I was complaining about general rate increases (far in excess of general inflation). That's hardly rate shaming.
lol. "This should be in line with inflation"

What planet do you live on?

Have you been to the restaurant lately?
The average rent in Montreal in $1900.

If you want the pricing to go down.. stop being part of the demand.
 

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lol. "This should be in line with inflation"

What planet do you live on?

Have you been to the restaurant lately?
The average rent in Montreal in $1900.

If you want the pricing to go down.. stop being part of the demand.
Or maybe understand why sp's rates increase when rent and food and other things are so high u know?
 

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The Montreal Hooker Index is much more useful.

St-Laurent (1 hour) street girl 1984 = $60 (not a perfect comparison with incall, but there were no incalls back then)
Les Divas (1 hour) 1994 = $120
Montreal Sex City (1 hour) 2004 = $160
GOF (1 hour) 2014 = $200
Vog (1 hour) 2024 = $260

Avg. inflation past 40 years = 4.8%
Couple of points higher than the fake CPI.
Those were the days with MSC!
 

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A few months before Jessy retired as an SP, I had the opportunity to meet her. That encounter sparked my interest in the hobby, and I still remember the experience fondly.
 
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It's not a complete picture, any more than Rebaynia's picture is complete (because of the selection bias) because everyone wants to measure the difference in cost relative to inflation, but it's not about inflation, it's about purchasing power. In order to measure the degree to which inflation impacts people's spending habits you also need to know about salary increases and whether those salaries have kept up with inflation or not. So, to say that inflation is 18% and the cost of agencies has gone up 18% doesn't really mean anything unless you know whether salaries have gone up 18% or more, or whether they have only gone up 9%, for example. If the salary increases haven't kept up with inflation then purchasing power is less and consequently people can afford less of the extras, even if inflation and agency cost increases are exactly the same. To further complicate matters salary, inflation and rate adjustments vary by region, so you can't even really use federal stats reliably to give you a regional outlook. Honestly, people's anecdotal experiences on here are probably as good an indication as any if you take the entire community's comments into account as far as their spending goes. General consensus seems to be costs are up and so spending less on fun. Anybody who wants better numbers will need to do a much deeper dive than I'm willing to do. lol
Indeed, comparing the price demanded by SPs with the minimum wage is really not a good comparison, nor comparing it to inflation, as salaries didn't follow inflation in most cases.

A good comparison of salaries between 2001 and 2024 could be as follows:

According to the 2002 collective agreement of the Syndicat de professionnelles et professionnels du gouvernement du Québec (SPGQ), the salary at the highest level in 2001 was around $60,000 to $62,000. At the same level, the salary in 2024 is around $95,000 to $100,000.

If we take $140 as the hourly rate for an SP in 2001, the proportional equivalent in 2024 would be $215 to $225. At $280/$300 per hour, the cost of an SP has skyrocketed compared to the salaries of the upper middle class, especially in the last 2-3 years.
 

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If we take $140 as the hourly rate for an SP in 2001, the proportional equivalent in 2024 would be $215 to $225. At $280/$300 per hour, the cost of an SP has skyrocketed compared to the salaries of the upper middle class, especially in the last 2-3 years.
The prices of food, rent etc… have also skyrocketed just like SP prices and salaries have not kept pace so the middle class keeps losing buying power.
This however doesn’t change anything when it comes to SP, it will always be the market that determines.
It is not much use gripping about it you can either afford it or not and there will always be a wide range even among SP also so you may not be able to afford the range you were accustomed to and have to adjust or go without, SP are not a life necessity ( I could be wrong on that lol).
 

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SP are not a life necessity (I could be wrong on that lol).
This reminds me of my university economics courses and the example of price elasticity and Insulin. Insulin is considered inelastic because diabetics need it, therefore, they will pay whatever the price.

With SP it is the opposite, they are very much a luxury and not a necessity. Sorry to be so blunt in making my point, particularly to the ladies.
 
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This reminds me of my university economics courses and the example of price elasticity and Insulin. Insulin is considered inelastic because diabetics need it, therefore, they will pay whatever the price.

With SP it is the opposite, they are very much a luxury and not a necessity. Sorry to be so blunt in making my point, particularly to the ladies.
Agreed, the hobby is a luxury not a necessity.
Having said that, I have to admit that there are a few ladies who are a necessity for me :)
 

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I noticed now that Euphoria started advertising “extras” and the rates went through the roof. I see Greek (160) when it was 100 just a few months ago. And it also seems to create some competition between girls, like as soon as one increases her rate for an extra, others match it as well. I feel like they opened a can of worms with this one lol
 
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Agreed, the hobby is a luxury not a necessity.
Having said that, I have to admit that there are a few ladies who are a necessity for me :)
Independent SP and agencies have the right to ask for the price they want. There is nothing wrong with this.

Some Independent SP ask for too high and see that clients are simply not ready to pay those price. Not naming anyone but I seen SP asking for X amount and realizing its simply not working, so they change there prices.

I am a simply worker and as Lexus 3 said so well hobby is a luxury, I don't mind paying a 160-180$ from time to time but count me out for the 300$ plus because I can't afford that, or I could but be in depth not long after.

I also had too many bad services at one point when I was single with some agencies sending me SP with extra for GFE that was not GFE at all so I ended up paying 240$ for an SP to stay for 15 minutes rush service dress and leaves, I said I paid for an hour she would reply but you already cum, next time baby and left. So after a few of those encounters you are careful to select who you spend it on. Had the bad smokers smell and a lot of times the SP would show up under the influence, a that marijuana smell how sweet it was NOT.
 

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I also had too many bad services at one point when I was single with some agencies sending me SP with extra for GFE that was not GFE at all so I ended up paying 240$ for an SP to stay for 15 minutes rush service dress and leaves, I said I paid for an hour she would reply but you already cum, next time baby and left. So after a few of those encounters you are careful to select who you spend it on. Had the bad smokers smell and a lot of times the SP would show up under the influence, a that marijuana smell how sweet it was NOT.

This doesn’t happen as often with indies. They will hangout even after you cum and they usually provide an unrushed service…

For sure there are exceptions
 

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I don't mind paying a 160-180$ from time to time but count me out for the 300$ plus [...]
I ended up paying 240$ for an SP to stay for 15 minutes rush service dress and leaves, I said I paid for an hour she would reply but you already cum, next time baby and left. So after a few of those encounters you are careful to select who you spend it on.

I see a correlation. Not saying every provider with lower rates pulls this kind of bullshit, but looking for bargains is not a good way to ensure great service. Very few reputable/trustworthy people charge under 200 these days :/ You know your budget but it comes with a certain territory
 

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I see a correlation. Not saying every provider with lower rates pulls this kind of bullshit, but looking for bargains is not a good way to ensure great service. Very few reputable/trustworthy people charge under 200 these days :/ You know your budget but it comes with a certain territory

Completely different but similar. It’s not impossible to find a good, clean and spacious 4 1/2 under $1,000 but the odds aren’t really high
 
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Completely different but similar. It’s not impossible to find a good, clean and spacious 4 1/2 under $1,000 but the odds aren’t really high
There are places, certain buildings get government subsidies allowing those places to have lower rents. One has to know where to find them. But you are right.
 
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