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How can an escort tell your ethnicity... they can guess, but they won't really know for sure unless you tell them, or there is very distinct mannerisms, or forms of dressing, that are distinct to your culture. Otherwise it is superficial guesses.
 

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How can an escort tell your ethnicity... they can guess, but they won't really know for sure unless you tell them, or there is very distinct mannerisms, or forms of dressing, that are distinct to your culture. Otherwise it is superficial guesses.
okay. So you are saying the shape and the length of jack, that dont give a clue about the ethnicity of the guy ? what about the nipples, a dude with erogenous nipples, he doesnt necessarily come from that country that i wont name ?
 

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My race is white but when girls feel the size of my zizi inside them, they often ask me if I am part black.
 

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They can usually tell your ethnicity by your name if it's not an English or French name. I've been asked about my ethnicity a few times, but it was more out of curiosity than exclusion. If your name is Michael and you don't speak with an accent, then you could be white/black/latino/Asian until you produce a photo ID or show up at the door.

As a non-white person, race-restrictions bother me at a personal level. I find it absurd that I could be excluded in spite of respecting all the meeting etiquettes of a provider but a white client can pass the filter simply by being white, even though he might not be a gentleman. I'm curious to know how often is it that a black or brown person would write a decent intro by text/email, pay the security deposit, then show up at the door and start haggling and abusing the woman. You would think that a lowballer would be abusive from the first contact!

Nevertheless, I don't fret over the few who exclude by race when the vast majority of providers in Montreal do not discriminate.
 
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I'm curious to know how often is it that a black or brown person would write a decent intro by text/email, pay the security deposit, then show up at the door and start haggling and abusing the woman. You would think that a lowballer would be abusive from the first contact!
You are assuming that being an abusive lowballer is the main reason for some SPs excluding clients by their ethnicity. I don't think that's really the case. There are probably myriad reasons that are based on generalities or suppositions that do not apply to every individual. For example, the SP doesn't see that group because they are smelly, have big dicks, don't treat women well or behave like misogynists, act like thugs or other. And a large reason is probably privacy or security. I have had SPs tell me they do not see clients of their own ethnicity for privacy reasons. Once a black SP told me she didn't see black men because she felt they were disrespectful and/or gangbangers.

It can be complicated in some cases.
 

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I've been asked about my ethnicity a few times, but it was more out of curiosity than exclusion. If your name is Michael and you don't speak with an accent, then you could be white/black/latino/Asian until you produce a photo ID or show up at the door.
Same for me. I have an extremely common first name and if you just ear me on the phone with my native French (or English with French accent :p) you can't tell I'm a visible minority.
However after COVID somehow when I began to work here I've always been asked about where my perfect level of French comes from ... Well because I'm French ...
Maybe it's more common or understandable that a visible minority person speaks French québécois whereas ones who speaks France French is weird?
Maybe lot of unconscious bias going here ...
As a non-white person, race-restrictions bother me at a personal level. I find it absurd that I could be excluded in spite of respecting all the meeting etiquettes of a provider but a white client can pass the filter simply by being white, even though he might not be a gentleman. I'm curious to know how often is it that a black or brown person would write a decent intro by text/email, pay the security deposit, then show up at the door and start haggling and abusing the woman. You would think that a lowballer would be abusive from the first contact!
Well truth is there are bad persons whatever the ethnicity. Such screening methods will reject potential good clients but there is no perfect way of doing it efficiently.
 

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However after COVID somehow when I began to work here I've always been asked about where my perfect level of French comes from ... Well because I'm French ...
Maybe it's more common or understandable that a visible minority person speaks French québécois whereas ones who speaks France French is weird?
Maybe lot of unconscious bias going here
Your post reminds me that in the past I came across some agency SPs who were openly advertised as seeing French speaking clients ONLY. As a unilingual Anglophone white American, I was curious about this exclusion, although not terribly offended by it. The agency told me that the SP in question wasn't comfortable communicating about levels of intimacy and doing negotiations in other than her native tongue, French. What I took this to mean was she didn't want to haggle over how much extra for a BBBJ as opposed to CBJ or some other service in English. I respected this because I didn't want there to be any miscommunication. Although on one level I was saddened by the exclusion based on my French sucking monkey balls (or being nonexistent, except for an ability to read menus in French).

My recollection is I did ask one such agency if I could bring in the super-bilingual Doc Holliday as an interpreter and translator at the very beginning of the session to do the necessary translations and negotiations. They said it was not going to work. I was prepared to tip Holliday as well as the girl if this proposition was accepted, but it wasn't. So I got excluded, even though I am a white guy and even though money would have been paid to make the perceived problem go away.
 
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As a non-white person, race-restrictions bother me at a personal level. I find it absurd that I could be excluded in spite of respecting all the meeting etiquettes of a provider but a white client can pass the filter simply by being white, even though he might not be a gentleman. I'm curious to know how often is it that a black or brown person would write a decent intro by text/email, pay the security deposit, then show up at the door and start haggling and abusing the woman. You would think that a lowballer would be abusive from the first contact!
Agreed. There is no reason to discriminate and I feel like threads like this embolden people to repeat racial stereotypes on the behalf of escorts who aren't even present, and to say stuff like "these women don't respect their bodies anyways" lol so many of us are rolling out eyes.

I usually take provider's side and I think consent is absolutely important but I'll repeat it.. I've noticed no connection between clients race and their behavior or how well endowed they were. I've had awful white clients who lowballed and pushed boundaries and who had really large dicks and bad hygiene. Are these escorts refusing white men too?

I refuse clients who act disrespectful, meaning if they are rude during the booking process, are asking to cross a boundary, lowball, avoid bare minimum screening etc. The client's ethnicity is the last thing on my mind, disrespectful behavior can happen no matter what.. a lot of these stereotypes are rooted in confirmation bias.

However escorts who have those requirements are going to do what they're going to do.. and in my humble opinion it's better as a client to choose seeing someone who is comfortable with who you are and doesn't have these beliefs. It's the same thing on my side.. if a client has a negative preconceived notion about me but decides to book anyways, we aren't going to have a good time.

Also an escort choosing to only see clients who speak her language is much different if she can't speak English.. I don't want to see clients who I can't have a conversation with personally.
 
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Agreed. There is no reason to discriminate and I feel like threads like this embolden people to repeat racial stereotypes on the behalf of escorts who aren't even present, and to say stuff like "these women don't respect their bodies anyways" lol so many of us are rolling out eyes.
I agree, but these threads are also a good opportunity to have well-intentioned discussions about race issues. In spite of all the connectvity nowadays, prejudices seem to multiply faster than mutual understanding. As long as we're engaging each other with an open mind, talking about this inflammatory topic helps to clear the air. Providers can speak up more about how or why they exclude certain racial groups, and the affected groups can also present their version of the story. A racialized person is not a walking microphone for their whole ethnic group, neither should providers be expected to take risks with their safety. It's for this exact reason that safeguards such as meaningful introduction by text / email - booking deposit - reference from another provider or photo ID are instituted.

I fully understand if a visible minority refuses to see clients from their own social group for privacy reasons because social circle tends to be small for minorities. What I find hurtful is the presumption that the aforementioned safeguards work on white people but flounder on black and brown - as if there's an inherent obnoxiousness in these groups!
 

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I agree, but these threads are also a good opportunity to have well-intentioned discussions about race issues. In spite of all the connectvity nowadays, prejudices seem to multiply faster than mutual understanding. As long as we're engaging each other with an open mind, talking about this inflammatory topic helps to clear the air. Providers can speak up more about how or why they exclude certain racial groups, and the affected groups can also present their version of the story. A racialized person is not a walking microphone for their whole ethnic group, neither should providers be expected to take risks with their safety. It's for this exact reason that safeguards such as meaningful introduction by text / email - booking deposit - reference from another provider or photo ID are instituted.

I fully understand if a visible minority refuses to see clients from their own social group for privacy reasons because social circle tends to be small for minorities. What I find hurtful is the presumption that the aforementioned safeguards work on white people but flounder on black and brown - as if there's an inherent obnoxiousness in these groups!
This subject comes up very very often on this forum and very few providers actually want to participate so what we mostly hear is "I've heard this SP say those are the reasons why she won't see black and brown men". Having witnessed these conversations very often.. I can assure you that these discussions don't always sound well intentioned. OP is upset that some providers have a race related restriction but then says "we don't respect our own bodies anyways". How respectful is that? I don't want to see a client who thinks I don't respect myself and who holds negative feelings about providers, regardless of race..

I've also had clients lie to me about their ethnicity before and usually there's been an ulterior motive behind it. Also I've said this before, really often white clients think they will reassure us and therefore avoid screening by saying things like "hey I'm fit, white and 45 years old" meanwhile I never asked if he's fit or white but the guy won't even say his name.

I agree with you 100 percent women of a certain background have good reasons to avoid men of their own background for the reason you mentioned, but I don't feel like this is what we're talking about here
 
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