Have you ever met a SP that you were hyped up for but then met her & felt so disappointed?

Michelle of Montreal Sex City. Everyone raved about her and her pics were so enticing. I was “warned” before hand that I might find her face too masculine. Wrote it off since one of the people who warned me was “Amanda Geneva.” When I opened the door I was like oh this is not going to work and gave her $20.

Marika also from Montreal Sex City. She was very fit. Her pics were also enticing. Lovely body and amazing personality but was not attracted to her face. Went with the session though. One shot and after gave each other a massage where she finished off the second shot with a HJ.

Stickler said:

450 to 600$ or more an hour at that. For 450 to 600$ i could pay a mamasan at a random Massage parlor and experience every girl in the establishment, that I'm attracted to, for the next 4 hours. Which is totally something I'd do.
I never understood the high cost of "High end" escorts.
I mean no disrespect. Im sure some of you have your justifications behind it, I just don't get it

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that's the big problem, if you charge that amount, you gotta give nothing less than a flawless service

god101 said:

that's the big problem, if you charge that amount, you gotta give nothing less than a flawless service

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"Flawless service" is entirely subjective. While some clients develop unrealistic expectations just because they pay a premium, price is driven by basic supply and demand. Providers price themselves differently based on their goals: some prefer fewer clients at a premium rate, while others rely on a higher volume of clients at a lower rate.

Ultimately, a higher price tag doesn't guarantee "fireworks." It often just reflects conventional aesthetics or marketing rather than a superior or more enthusiastic performance.

mtlspacial said:

"Flawless service" is entirely subjective. While some clients develop unrealistic expectations just because they pay a premium, price is driven by basic supply and demand. Providers price themselves differently based on their goals: some prefer fewer clients at a premium rate, while others rely on a higher volume of clients at a lower rate.

Ultimately, a higher price tag doesn't guarantee "fireworks." It often just reflects conventional aesthetics or marketing rather than a superior or more enthusiastic performance.

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you're wrong! a higher price tag SHOULD guarantee "fireworks", just like anything you buy

god101 said:

you're wrong! a higher price tag SHOULD guarantee "fireworks", just like anything you buy

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I understand your point of view, but fireworks may or may not happen regardless of price. It may happen one session, and not the next.

You're dealing with human beings, not machines. Performance can vary at times regardless of what you pay.

At my job, I make considerably more than the industry average. It doesn't mean I don't screw up once in a while and never have a substandard performance.

So, why should I hold an SP to an impossible standard.

Yes, you'll need to pay extra for the Instagram/only fan princess or the fitness babe, but it doesn't mean she'll have the talent to please you better in bed 100% of the time. Doesn't work what way.

Of course, if you're disappointed, you can always elect to go with someone else and hope for a better result.

god101 said:

you're wrong! a higher price tag SHOULD guarantee "fireworks", just like anything you buy

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Fireworks for who? You? You're not the only customer in the market and maybe that experience isn't tailored for you. That doesn't mean it isn't better or worse just that you won't perceive the value in the money you spend past a certain price point. This world is full of things many find way overpriced that still give those that can afford it "fireworks."

god101 said:

you're wrong! a higher price tag SHOULD guarantee "fireworks", just like anything you buy

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Well to a certain extend I agree but the tricky part is that a fireworks are different depending of lot of criteria ...
To make the fireworks enjoyable from a customer's perspective communication of expectations is needed with the fireworks engineer.

god101 said:

you're wrong! a higher price tag SHOULD guarantee "fireworks", just like anything you buy

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Nothing is a guarantee. Also just because there were fireworks the first time does not mean this will happen the second time and the next.

We are dealing with human emotions here and that is very unpredictable and at times volatile.

twenty4seven said:

Fireworks for who? You? You're not the only customer in the market and maybe that experience isn't tailored for you. That doesn't mean it isn't better or worse just that you won't perceive the value in the money you spend past a certain price point. This world is full of things many find way overpriced that still give those that can afford it "fireworks."

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Unrelated but it's funny, the first time I was mentioned in this thread, you said in a comment that we had not yet met. Now that we have, would you have any comments regarding my ability to suck the soul out of people? Hahaha

I feel like this guy repeatedly fails to understand the very simple concept that his ideal session isn't everyone's ideal session. Some people see fireworks where he sees an empty sky and vice versa.

Honestly, his post history is a little odd and I'm not even convinced we did meet. I have a hypothesis but I won't say more lol.

Blackitlightning said:

I kinda disagree with the rapport part. While the middleman is cut out, there is no real connection from Indys generally. Most independent SPs charge for any conversation that is not strictly surrounding booking

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Most? According to who? The vast majority of indies have exchanged texts with their clients before/after a booking. Just not all day every day like some would expect. We also tend to spend more time discussing the details of a booking (and in a more personalized fashion).

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But getting just 5 minutes of it felt so rare to me, I valued it immensely when it happened.

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Yes I wasn't trying to imply that you are looking for all day convo! I was talking in general. In my experience it isn't rare for indies do to a bit of conversation (especially with their returning clients), the only time it becomes a bother is when clients text all day or very very regularly

When I said personalized booking experience I mean that (for me at least) it's easier to discuss the specific details of the service etc and I can tailor my answers to the client in a much warmer and friendly fashion than "yes she offers x acronym". I didn't mean that this is the only subject I (or indies) talk about though haha

Julia Sky said:

Unrelated but it's funny, the first time I was mentioned in this thread, you said in a comment that we had not yet met. Now that we have, would you have any comments regarding my ability to suck the soul out of people? Hahaha

I feel like this guy repeatedly fails to understand the very simple concept that his ideal session isn't everyone's ideal session. Some people see fireworks where he sees an empty sky and vice versa.

Honestly, his post history is a little odd and I'm not even convinced we did meet. I have a hypothesis but I won't say more lol.

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I think my review speaks for itself . I went back to read what I said here and I stand by it: If I lived any closer I'd need to be on an IV drip bc you (and your indy colleagues) drain me so hard I'd eventually be shooting dust when I cum.

Some people just can't reconcile that their expectations are unrealistic and that's why they're disappointed. I know money is money and people want to get something mindblowing for what they paid but once you unburden yourself from what you THINK is gonna happen you open yourself up to all the things that CAN happen, and I think that's a better way to approach this IMO.

twenty4seven said:

once you unburden yourself from what you THINK is gonna happen you open yourself up to all the things that CAN happen, and I think that's a better way to approach this IMO.

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This! And not just this but many things in life!

Blackitlightning said:

I kinda disagree with the rapport part. While the middleman is cut out, there is no real connection from Indys generally. Most independent SPs charge for any conversation that is not strictly surrounding booking so when I see an independent vs an agency lady, there is almost no difference in vibe at the beginning of the meeting.

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Weird thing is that I believe the exact same thing, in reverse. I've only seen 1 agency girl and the time constraints combined with the provider's style made it hard for me to build a genuine connection. We got there eventually but I had to suspend disbelief for the first half of the session bc it seemed contrived and fake. Once I figured her out it was great but it was a weird shift from what I'm used to which is all independent women.

I would say it's the complete opposite for me. The indy providers I've been with have almost all been WAY more adept at building connection and I have such strong sexual/conversational/emotional connection with some of them that it's no wonder I've seen many 5/10/15+ times.

Blackitlightning said:

I love reading your responses on this board. You are so intelligent as well as realistic in how you bring across your points.

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Sooo…. When is the wedding?

Blackitlightning said:

I love reading your responses on this board. You are so intelligent as well as realistic in how you bring across your points.

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And I don't charge for conversation

Blackitlightning said:

I love reading your responses on this board. You are so intelligent as well as realistic in how you bring across your points.

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She must be a Cancer. Many of the brightest minds in the world are Cancers. Many seem to pay way too many attention to details & perfection but more often than not its due to ocd issues more than anything. Lol.

Doc Holliday said:

She must be a Cancer. Many of the brightest minds in the world are Cancers. Many seem to pay way too many attention to details & perfection but more often than not its due to ocd issues more than anything. Lol.

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I don't deny the OCD allegations lol

McL0vin said:

I think indy service better. I like knowing there's not a bunch of clients before and after me and I see the lady is more relaxed. If I'm disappointed I just drop a load and leave.

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Very early in my hobbying life i used to think the same thing. I’d look at their description & believed every word. So earlier on i mostly saw indys & most of the time the same ones. Then one of them i had become friends with suggested i see more agency girls. She even made me a list of whom she’d see if she were me. She reminded me that mostly all indys start up in the business with agencies. That it would be wrong for me to look at agency girls differently than indys like herself. That i should give them a chance. Plus i’d save money & it would allow me to expand my horizons & see more sps. She said i’d be a perfect partner for a threesome. I could have a threesome with two agency girls & it probably wouldn’t cost that much more than seeing one indy. She made a lot of sense & i respected her ideas. But i told her about my preference about seeing indys because they mostly saw only 1-2 clients a day as compared to agency girls. She laughed! “We all say the same thing!”, she said. Really? “Yes of course! It’s a marketing thing.

I’m sure it’s true with quite a few indys but in my case & the case of many indys i personally know we all claim we only see 1 or 2 clients a day but reality is often quite different. As a matter of fact i know one of the top indys in the business who claims to see only 1 client per day but she’s so in demand that she often ends up referring clients to other indys like myself!” I was surprised. Disappointed actually. Then she added “Doc, your a smart person. Do you honestly think that we could make a living just by seeing one client per day? Sure it’s possible if the session is always more than 2-3 hours but sadly this is not the case. Girls have to work to make a living!” Okay she made a lot of sense. So i began to see agency girls. Many agency girls! And during that time i learned that quite a few agency girls quit their shift after 2 or 3 clients. I’ve even met several who would only come in for one client if their date was scheduled for 2 or 3 hours. Agency owners i befriended over the years would tell me that popular girls who were happy only working for a couple of hours per day would irritate him since it wouldn’t be good for their business however those were the conditions they had agreed to when they hired them & if they didn’t accept these conditions they were 100% certain that the girls in particular would leave & go work elsewhere. So they put up with it.