100$ extra for an escort because i am black
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My two cent WKH:
I would not pay the $100.
That said, I watched an interview with Normand Brathwaite (who is black) on Tout le Monde en Parle, Saturday, and his comments were enlightening.
He said, that whenever he travels to the US, where he says discrimination against blacks is atrocious compared to here, so when he travels there he makes a special effort to not upset anyone... he always wears the best suits, talks politely etc... to not inflame opinions.
None of my business, but if I were you, I'd do the same.
No use in complaining its wrong ... that's the way life is.
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I don't know if you know, but the fact that blacks have a terrible reputation as clients is not all racism.
Almost any SP will tell you of a bad experience with black client:
1. Either the guy was rough and inconsiderate (they will tell you this happens more with blacks, than with whites).
2. Or the guy was a pimp trying to recruit or threaten her.
3. The guy has too big a cock and nearly rode her to death (yeah, that's not a myth either, I have heard that story plenty of times.
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Like I said, most of these girls are not racist, in fact I'd say almost three quarters of them have dated black guys for fun.
But to get the best service as a client, if I were you I would "act white" - lose the ghetto attire, don't talk in slang, and be upfront (yes even about dick size).
If you do all that ... you'll probably get better service than us white guys.
Dude,
I hope you're kidding. If any lady will see a guy for an extra charge who they say wouldn't see otherwise because he's Black, Asian, or anything, then this isn't about choice any more. It's an extortion scam. Personally, I don't see how you could accept that insult and enjoy yourself. On top of that their attitude gives a high probability of being a very lousy lay. Could this possibly be worth the trouble.
Bingo! Expose them. :thumb:
Really, this is the suspicious part. If some agency was trying to extort me I sure wouldn't have forgotten their name. I still remember 11 years later the name of the first bait and switch agency I dealt with.
All too true! I just finished reading a couple of more histories with a lot of primary source material. Despite their intended point, what they really are saying is they're all the same in character or lack of regardless of ANY category used to separate them.
yikes,
Merlot
Attitudes like that create the breeding ground for genocide.
SK your post is borderline racist and if I was black I`d be realy pissed off at someone who told me to "act white".
Relax trooper.
What SK really meant to say was lose the Tupac look and attitude and you'll be respected. Escorts prefer the Will Smith look over the tupac look, they feel safer.
Girls are sensitive like that, i love them.
SK,
So who is SamKlemmons to know what "almost any SP will tell you of a bad experience with black client"? Are you doing a survey during your encounters? Have you interviewed so many SPs on this that you could have a large enough sampling make such a statement? In my experiences I see SPs to have fun, not make investigations. Or could you be an agency owner, assistant, or driver?
"Act White"? Being "ghetto" to me is being ill-mannered, slovenly, crude, uneducated, etc. I've found Whites act this way just as often as Blacks. To say "act white" means nothing in particular. The statement is an insult at best. Every group has the same positives and negatives.
The differences between racism in the US and Montreal regarding escort prejudices don't seem to be all that different since this escort rejection of Black men is a repeating issue on a Montreal sex board.
Maybe the issue described in the first post has a lot to do with racism. But the real issue there is exploiting the known existence of racism and stereotypes to extort a Black individual for more profits.
It's good overall to discuss this kind of issue every once in awhile to keep agencies and ladies on their toes. But it will only be an exercise in argument dividing members and creating more board antipathy between members if the agencies and ladies are not named. Without the latter we are only picking on each other.
really,
Merlot
My two cents:
Rejection of african-american clients has always been an issue since i started hobbying & if you take the time to listen to the sps/agencies on their reasons, they may make some sense & i've even heard two black sps tell me that they refuse to see african-american clients. They did agree with me that it is very unfortunate that the majority of african-american clients suffer because of a few bad apples.
I'd also like to point out that east-indian clients are as discriminated against as african-american clients are. Some may say even more. Twelve or thirteen years ago, i remember an agency (from Mtl) clearly stating on their website that they did not service men of african-american & east-indian descent. I couldn't believe what i was seeing at the time! I doubt we'd see agencies/indys having the nerve to post this on their websites today.
Rejection of african-american clients has always been an issue since i started hobbying & if you take the time to listen to the sps/agencies on their reasons, they may make some sense & i've even heard two black sps tell me that they refuse to see african-american clients. They did agree with me that it is very unfortunate that the majority of african-american clients suffer because of a few bad apples.
I'd also like to point out that east-indian clients are as discriminated against as african-american clients are. Some may say even more. Twelve or thirteen years ago, i remember an agency (from Mtl) clearly stating on their website that they did not service men of african-american & east-indian descent. I couldn't believe what i was seeing at the time! I doubt we'd see agencies/indys having the nerve to post this on their websites today.
K
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We all face discrimination in life in one form or another. It's unfortunate and sad that some SP's automatically rule out servicing someone because they are black. But it was smart on your part to have raised the issue of your race with the booker; you saved yourself money and avoided some painful experience. As with any SP, every Hobbyist's mileage will vary with an SP for GFE, which is clearly more intimate than just slipping a hat on your junk and poking her. I think you would have much better experience dealing with Merb supporters. Good luck and don't be discouraged. There are plenty of SP's out there who would love to spend some quality GFE time with a black man. As an aside, look at the incredible romance Seal had with that German supermodel. 
Don't compare racism in the US with racism in Montreal. Blacks were enslaved in the US for centuries. Slavery was abolished there only recently, a few decades ago to be exact. Slavery destroyed their community, and u can see how badly by comparing their inner cities to our inner cities. Check out the projects in Detroit, Oakland, Philly, etc. Cops don't go through there. We can't begin to understand their plight in the US, and if u still think blacks are going through the same shit in Montreal, I suggest you take a flight to New Orleans and check out ward 7 and Magnolia. Racism is still a big deal in the US, a really big deal. Slavery still exists only now it's more systematic and undercover, even more dangerous, and the inner cities will never improve because of it.
Next year it will be 150 years since Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation. A few decades?
Thanks for the history lesson. Before the next one, you ought to get an idea of what you're talking about. The problems you mention do exist, but in this day and age the division is more along class than race lines. However, the word slavery couldn't be more inappropriate and offensive to the heirs of those who suffered under its yoke.
im from the usa, you have no clue what your talking about, slavery was 300 years ago has nothing to do with the "destroying" of their communities.
the slavery you are talking about which exists today is completely different than what happened 300 years ago, your a complete idot.
your more ignorant than anyone, you dont come from the usa, so you dont know what your talking about. you probably read some history book and just believed it. haha
the slavery you are talking about which exists today is completely different than what happened 300 years ago, your a complete idot.
your more ignorant than anyone, you dont come from the usa, so you dont know what your talking about. you probably read some history book and just believed it. haha
Hello all,
Lovemaker, your knowledge of history is terrible here. Your knowledge of the current U.S. condition is also very poor, no doubt by very limited experience, if any. Your post is one perfect example of what I meant when I said this issue: "will only be an exercise in argument dividing members and creating more board antipathy between members if the agencies and ladies are not named. Without the latter we are only picking on each other." You are letting the offending agency and ladies turn this issue into a member confrontation rather than making them accountable.
How about we all not turn this into an international battle. All I meant in my post #28 (which has been amended) was escorts in both countries seem to have very similar racial attitudes. Several threads on this issue point that out. There have also been complaints against Montreal escorts by Asians and Indians.
The real issue is escort agency extortion of minorities. I've always agreed with the escorts right to choose to serve or reject whoever they wish. But adding fees because of race is racism and extortion.
Cheers,
Merlot
Lovemaker, your knowledge of history is terrible here. Your knowledge of the current U.S. condition is also very poor, no doubt by very limited experience, if any. Your post is one perfect example of what I meant when I said this issue: "will only be an exercise in argument dividing members and creating more board antipathy between members if the agencies and ladies are not named. Without the latter we are only picking on each other." You are letting the offending agency and ladies turn this issue into a member confrontation rather than making them accountable.
How about we all not turn this into an international battle. All I meant in my post #28 (which has been amended) was escorts in both countries seem to have very similar racial attitudes. Several threads on this issue point that out. There have also been complaints against Montreal escorts by Asians and Indians.
The real issue is escort agency extortion of minorities. I've always agreed with the escorts right to choose to serve or reject whoever they wish. But adding fees because of race is racism and extortion.
Cheers,
Merlot
Hello everyone,
As the thread starter is not willing to disclose the parties involved, I see no reason for this to continue. I have made MERB's position very clear, this is extortion, plain and simple. But without the parties involved beind identified, this is going nowhere. Also, watching this thread degrade into inaccurate historical posts, as well as animosity between members, makes this decision an easy one. If the thread starter wishes to post further information regarding this situation, I will open the thread again for him to do so.
Thread closed.
M8
As the thread starter is not willing to disclose the parties involved, I see no reason for this to continue. I have made MERB's position very clear, this is extortion, plain and simple. But without the parties involved beind identified, this is going nowhere. Also, watching this thread degrade into inaccurate historical posts, as well as animosity between members, makes this decision an easy one. If the thread starter wishes to post further information regarding this situation, I will open the thread again for him to do so.
Thread closed.
M8
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