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Kuroda hurt by comeback line drive. The big question. Will he make his next start? Will he go on the "not-real" DL? Will he go on the "real" DL? Answer soon.
 

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How do you know the Yankees have lost two games in a row? You don't hear a peep from any of their loyal fans!!

You win some and you lose some. Baltimore is a good team and will be in the hunt until the end.

I see that Buchholz now has his new flesh color cream to replace that white cream. It's working like the old cream and is harder to detect.
 

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Hey Boyz,

How do you know the Yankees have lost two games in a row?

Answer: Cowardly crap disturber retorts!

Case in point: "I see that Buchholz now has his new flesh color cream to replace that white cream. It's working like the old cream and is harder to detect."

The above free-for-all crap.

I stopped posting in this thread in the middle of the Red Sox 5-game hot streak because I was disgusted with the petty exchanges. Then the Mets boy starts crying about being picked on, "just like the political threads". OMG, Really! So it's happening again. It wasn't just Red Sox fans the last time.

It's amazing that anyone who posts instigating crap that has no more basis in fact than the video against Rivera or the same guessing accusations another writer made against Jeter could think he deserves any respect. How does anyone not understand if he acts thoughtlessly irresponsible then he can't cry pathetically about being called on his BS. EB and Chercher showed some class and manhood by avoiding this. Where's yours???

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-buchholz-7-0-red-sox-beat-white-sox/2353355/

Buchholz:

Thanks to some very fine fielding support Clay once again held the opposition in check despite 3 walks, and only 4 strike outs.

CHICAGO (AP) — Clay Buchholz figures a slump will come his way at some point, so he'll enjoy this run while it lasts.

Buchholz pitched five-hit ball over seven innings to improve to 7-0, and the Boston Red Sox beat the Chicago White Sox 6-2 Wednesday night to avoid a three-game sweep.

David Ortiz delivered a two-run single in the first off Hector Santiago (1-3) and stole third for the first time in his career. Jacoby Ellsbury had two hits, walked twice and made a big catch in center field to back Buchholz and help the Red Sox come away with their sixth win in eight games.

BOX SCORE: Red Sox 6, White Sox 2

They're now 9-1 with Buchholz starting, and he's gone at least six innings each time out.

"You're going to take your lumps and bumps in the road," he said.

But it's been a smooth ride so far for him, although he got some help from his defense in this one.

Jonny Gomes made a sliding catch on Paul Konerko's line drive to left with two on to end the first, and Ellsbury raced to the center-field warning track to snag Alexei Ramirez's liner with a runner on and two out in the fifth to preserve a 2-1 lead.

Boston added to it in the eighth when Will Middlebrooks hit a sacrifice fly to right off Nate Jones after the Red Sox loaded the bases against Brian Omogrosso in the eighth, and Mike Napoli scored on a passed ball by Tyler Flowers to make it 4-1. The Red Sox scored two more in the ninth to put this one away.

Even so, Konerko was feeling pretty good about how the White Sox played in this series.

"It's good for our record, but I think it should be good for our confidence that we belong on the same field as some of these teams," he said. "I don't think we doubt that anyway, but it reinforces it."

Buchholz allowed just one run while lowering his AL-leading ERA to 1.73. He also matched the best start by a Boston pitcher since Josh Beckett in 2007 and joined Tampa Bay's Matt Moore and Arizona's Patrick Corbin as the only unbeaten pitchers in the majors with seven or more wins.

"I thought tonight, still, he had very good stuff," manager John Farrell said. "He's still pitching in the low to mid-90s with his fastball. The biggest thing is you never can sit on any one pitch in any given count."

The only run Buchholz allowed came on an RBI groundout in the third by Alex Rios, who extended his career-high hitting streak to 17 with a single in the sixth.

The White Sox also got a solo homer from Konerko off Andrew Bailey. Otherwise, the White Sox couldn't get the big hit. They were 0-for-5 with runners in scoring position after doing all their scoring with two outs while winning the previous two games 6-4 and 3-1.

Santiago wasn't quite as dominant after Jose Quintana took a no-hitter into the seventh the previous night, but he gave the White Sox exactly what they needed.

He settled down after the shaky start and threw six solid innings for the White Sox with Chris Sale scratched because of mild tendinitis in his left shoulder. The left-hander allowed two runs and three hits, struck out nine and walked four pitching on three days' rest in what might be his last start for a while.

That's because he or Dylan Axelrod could be headed to the bullpen with John Danks expected to return from his shoulder injury.

"It's tough, but that's part of being in baseball," manager Robin Ventura said. "We have to figure out what's best for us, so we'll figure that out on Friday."


Ortiz:

Every game should have some comedy relief, and thanks to the first successful steal (of third base) by the tender footed and slow Ortiz in 2 years it was amply provided.

Asked if he's the new Rickey Henderson, he said, "So they say." And when he saw the steal sign, he said, "I was like, 'You sure?' "

Terry Francona:

It will be great to see the beloved Francona return to Fenway on the field for the first time since his firing. In Boston 99% of the fans don't blame him for the collapse of 2011. They mostly blame a few players, now largely gone, and the owners to varying degrees, but especially Larry Lucchino who was also mostly responsible for pushing that clown Valentine on the Red Sox. I expect the fans to give Francona a very strong welcome for all he has achieved while leading the Red Sox...and I wouldn't mind a few signs with..."Lucchino SUCKS". :amen:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/...cona-at-peace-in-boston-red-sox-return-052213

His new team is in first place. His old team is in second place. Terry Francona doesn’t want to be a story Thursday when they meet in Boston. He knows that is unrealistic.

As he returns to Fenway Park for the first time as manager of the Cleveland Indians, familiar footsteps will evoke new emotion. This was where he stewed and triumphed over eight mostly illustrious seasons with the Boston Red Sox, including World Series titles in 2004 and 2007. The four-game weekend series will offer ample time for reunions, with cribbage nemesis Dustin Pedroia, with close friend and Red Sox traveling secretary Jack McCormick, with longtime equipment manager Edward “Pookie” Jackson.

Francona has been to Fenway since his ouster following the Red Sox’s historic collapse in 2011. He worked one Red Sox home game from the ESPN broadcast booth in 2012. He received a thunderous ovation at last April’s Fenway Park centennial celebration, as New Englanders expressed their abiding love for Francona despite the deterioration of his relationship with team owner John Henry.

Earlier this month, I asked Francona if hearing those cheers eased any of the anxiety he would feel this week. He corrected me.

“I don’t have any anxiety,” Francona said, sitting in the visiting manager’s office during a series in Detroit. “I’m an Indian. I have great memories. I have some tough memories. But you move on. And as time separates it, you know, you remember more of the good. And there was a lot of that.

“There will be people there I care about forever. And that will never change.”

Francona, 54, would be justified if he felt bitter about the way it ended in Boston – serving as the scapegoat for a collective failure while details about his personal life reached the newspaper. “It wasn’t fair,” said Brad Mills, Francona’s close friend and the Cleveland third base coach. But if you expect Francona to use this series as a platform to criticize Henry and partners Tom Werner and Larry Lucchino, then you will be disappointed. He won’t do it.

He’s too happy.


BRAVO TERRY, :nod: :thumb:

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Hey Boyz,



Answer: Cowardly crap disturber retorts!

Case in point: "I see that Buchholz now has his new flesh color cream to replace that white cream. It's working like the old cream and is harder to detect."

The above free-for-all crap.

I stopped posting in this thread in the middle of the Red Sox 5-game hot streak because I was disgusted with the petty exchanges. Then the Mets boy starts crying about being picked on, "just like the political threads". OMG, Really! So it's happening again. It wasn't just Red Sox fans the last time.

It's amazing that anyone who posts instigating crap that has no more basis in fact than the video against Rivera or the same guessing accusations another writer made against Jeter could think he deserves any respect. How does anyone not understand if he acts thoughtlessly irresponsible then he can't cry pathetically about being called on his BS. EB and Chercher showed some class and manhood by avoiding this. Where's yours???

Merlot

Crap disturber???? Are you serious? No one can make any remark about any of your "precious" Red Sox? But when someone makes a sarcastic remark about any of the Yankees it's A-OK. Merlot doesn't go ape-crap on us.

Kuroda hurt by comeback line drive. The big question. Will he make his next start? Will he go on the "not-real" DL? Will he go on the "real" DL? Answer soon.

And just to add, Mr. Merlot, neither what I wrote or what rumps wrote is in the crap disturbing category. It's just amazing how you try to stir up crap where there is none.
 

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Last night, i was going through the Yankee roster & it got me thinking: "How the hell did they manage to be in first place??"

Other than Robinson Cano, that roster is full of holes. Has the pitching been that good?? I doubt it. My guess is that the Yankees so far have been extremely opportunistic & have capitalized on their chances.

As for the Red Sox, they are no better....and their best player is also playing 2nd-base. The ageless David Ortiz is having another good season, but that's pretty much it. The starting pitching might be slightly better than the Yankees, but the bullpen (in my opinion) has been troublesome. Where would this team be without Lester & Bucholz??

The Red Sox are currently slumping and playing to the level everyone (other than Red Sox fans) predicted. But the Yankees are holding on & some of their injured players are returning. Can they hold on??

Toronto is playing much better & Jose Reyes will likely be in the lineup in a few weeks. Buerle & Dickey are pitching very well, Morrow is very good, and JA Happ will be welcomed back once he recovers from his skull injury. I'm surprised Brett Cecil hasn't yet been asked to start, but maybe that's in the plans since i don't believe Russ Ortiz is the answer.
 

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Other than Robinson Cano, that roster is full of holes. Has the pitching been that good?? I doubt it. My guess is that the Yankees so far have been extremely opportunistic & have capitalized on their chances.
Yes, the pitching has been that good. Unfortunately, the players returning will fill spaces that have been productive. And their aging pitchers are starting to show. Teixeira will be no better than Overbay v.2013. They're not going to get better behind the plate or at shortstop. They will continue to contend as long as they continue to get production from Wells and Hafner, assuming Hafner stays healthy. A big question mark, one that has them very worried in New York, is the recent mediocrity of CC Sabathia. And, of course, with three back injuries in the last two months, Pettitte is an even bigger ???

As for the Red Sox, they are no better....and their best player is also playing 2nd-base. The ageless David Ortiz is having another good season, but that's pretty much it. The starting pitching might be slightly better than the Yankees, but the bullpen (in my opinion) has been troublesome. Where would this team be without Lester & Bucholz??
What's interesting, Doc, is that the Sox are 1/2 game out despite getting almost nothing from Drew, Middlebrooks, Ellsbury, and Gomes. The offense has been carried by four players. The starting pitching has been very good, Doubront the exception, and Buchholz the only one pitching over his head. The bullpen has been magnificent. This team is for real. Even with an uneven offense, BP still considers the Sox the class of the division.

The Rays are coming on. It's getting late early for the Jays.
 

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Last night, i was going through the Yankee roster & it got me thinking: "How the hell did they manage to be in first place??"

Other than Robinson Cano, that roster is full of holes. Has the pitching been that good?? I doubt it. My guess is that the Yankees so far have been extremely opportunistic & have capitalized on their chances.

As for the Red Sox, they are no better....and their best player is also playing 2nd-base. The ageless David Ortiz is having another good season, but that's pretty much it. The starting pitching might be slightly better than the Yankees, but the bullpen (in my opinion) has been troublesome. Where would this team be without Lester & Bucholz??

The Red Sox are currently slumping and playing to the level everyone (other than Red Sox fans) predicted. But the Yankees are holding on & some of their injured players are returning. Can they hold on??

Toronto is playing much better & Jose Reyes will likely be in the lineup in a few weeks. Buerle & Dickey are pitching very well, Morrow is very good, and JA Happ will be welcomed back once he recovers from his skull injury. I'm surprised Brett Cecil hasn't yet been asked to start, but maybe that's in the plans since i don't believe Russ Ortiz is the answer.

On paper, the Blue Jays may have the best team in the AL East ... but the best team on paper does not always win or have a great season.

Philadelphia is probably a good study. The Phillies had the best team on paper from 2008 to 2011, but they won 1 World Series during those years while they played in 2 World Series. Phillies still have a very good team on paper, but they have had mediocre seasons last year and starting this year.

Detroit has a good team on paper. So far this season, they have been playing well, but not exceptional.

I expect that the Blue Jays will start playing more to their talent level. Blue Jays are certainly way better than Florida or Houston. I expect by the second or third week of June they will be .500.

Each game is different. The team with the most runs at the end of 9 innings or in the extra inning if 9 ends in a tie wins. Both the Red Sox and Yankees have been playing good enough ball to win games.

If you look at the St. Louis Cardinals without Albert Pujouls, you don't see many league leaders among them, but as a whole they have been playing good baseball. Cardinals have the best record in the league. St. Louis has a couple of excellent starting pitchers, 2 HR hitters, one of which Matt Holiday hasn't been hitting HRs, and 3 or 4 guys hitting .300 or more. Yet the Cardinals have been winning games.
 

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Wow. I was watching the Boston Red Sox play the Cleveland Indians on the MLB network.

The Indians won 12-3. I read here from some self-proclaimed expert that the Cleveland Indians SUCKED.

The Indians are in first place in the AL Central over the favorite Detroit Tigers by a game. The Indians have been looking good. Red Sox have 3 more games with the Indians.

I turned on the game when Red Sox first baseman Mike Napoli dropped a foul ball pop up, fall backwards in a somersault. I wish I had the clip. It was a better somersault than what you see by a clown at the circus except Napoli dropped the ball.

The Indians batter then hit a 3 run double to put the Indians ahead, 9-3. What a long rainy night for the Red Sox. Red Sox have 3 more games with the Indians.
 

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Yes, the pitching has been that good. Unfortunately, the players returning will fill spaces that have been productive. And their aging pitchers are starting to show. Teixeira will be no better than Overbay v.2013. They're not going to get better behind the plate or at shortstop. They will continue to contend as long as they continue to get production from Wells and Hafner, assuming Hafner stays healthy. A big question mark, one that has them very worried in New York, is the recent mediocrity of CC Sabathia. And, of course, with three back injuries in the last two months, Pettitte is an even bigger ???

Thanks for the health and aging report again on the NY Yankees rumps. We couldn't get along without it.
 

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Bad game all around starting with Dempster and then his replacement Mortenson. Awful. Lackey going tomorrow against Masterson should be interesting. As of now I'm hoping for a split of the series. Yanks have the Rays in Tampa. Could be some movement this weekend.
 

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Red Sox slumping badly. Other than Lester & Bucholz, they don't have much as far as starting pitching goes. Doubront isn't bad, i suppose. But Dempster looks like he's done. Middlebrooks should be in the minors & Drew isn't much better. Napoli is average at best & if i'd be the GM i'd trade Ellesbury in a New York minute since his value will never be higher as it is now. How long can the Red Sox put up with a light-hitting centerfielder with no power? Lots of holes in that lineup if you ask me. Ortiz & Pedroia are carrying this team right now....barely! It's only a matter of time, i believe, before Papi hits the DL. He's not a young man anymore, and his size (and suspected use of PED's) has taken its toll on his aging body.

As for the Yankees, i already did mention that i couldn't figure out how they manage to remain in first place. I suppose all of the other teams in the division suck. Vernon Wells has come back down to earth & its only a matter of time before he hits the DL. Lyle Overbay is back to being Lyle Overbay once again: a light-hitting first baseman with no power, but is above-average defensively. Mark Texeira is rumoured to be coming back soon, but take my word for it: it won't be long before he gets back on the DL for season-ending surgery on his ailing wrist. A-Rod....is he still with the Yankees? Jeter.....hasn't he retired? If not, this is likely his final season. I feel for the guy, i really do. But there comes a time when he has to face the music & admit it's time to hang 'em up.

As for the starting pitching, why are we surprised to see Sabathia struggling? Just look at the size of that guy!! He's a heart attack just waiting to happen!! Pettite looks like he's done and this will be his final season, if he can finish it. Phil Hughes should be traded a.s.a.p. before it's too late to get anything for him. Get rid of Chamberlain also, he's no good. The Japanese guy looks like a decent starter, but innings might be taking its toll on his aging body. How long will he be able to last without breaking for good?

Back in Toronto, the Jays are playing very good baseball these days. They've found their groove, and the hitting is where it should be. The starting pitching is finally starting to prove the critics wrong....Dickey, Morrow & Buerle pitching extremely well of late. The bullpen is still solid. Josh Johnson & Sergio Santos should be back soon, which will be a boost. And i predict we'll see Jose Reyes back in the lineup sooner than later. I expect him to be back in 3 weeks or so. No way he'll stay out until the all-star break. Brett Lawrie is still struggling to regain his stroke, though. Missing most of the pre-season and the first week of the regular season due to injury has hurt him this season. But i expect him to bounce back come June.

Tampa is playing very well also, even though they've had to battle a few injuries such as the recent one to their top starting pitcher, Price. The young starting pitching staff is picking up the slack and the team is hitting very well these days.

Baltimore.....hard to tell what's going on with these guys. They're up and down.

Look out for them Jays!!! :thumb:
 

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To answer your ?'in Doc, "where would the red sox be w/o Lester and Bucholz" Simple, probably closer to the Jays at the moment yet fading fast while the Jays are climbing.

I laughed when someone on here said Dempster was a great addition to the sox, even tho his ERA in the AL before this season suggested otherwise. He was el stinko again tonight. He is a below .500 pitcher with a career era closing in on 4.50 and (for you rumps) a career WHIP of 1.43! Btw, most of those stats were from pitching in the "weaker hitting" National League. I can see Dempster, if he is healthy all season, finishing around 6-14 with a era nearing 5.00 ......
 

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Red Sox slumping badly.
The Sox have won six of their last ten. I sure hope they keep slumping for the rest of the season.

where would the red sox be w/o Lester and Bucholz" Simple...
Yup, simple. The same place the Yankees would be without Kuroda and Sabathia. And still some four games ahead of the Jays.

that the Cleveland Indians SUCKED.
Yes, they do. When Ubaldo Jimenez pitches, the Cleveland Indians suck. When Carlos Carrasco pitches, which he did only once this season, the Cleveland Indians suck. Let me try to break this down for you. There are nine players on the field for a team at any one time. No one player more affects a team's ability to win than the pitcher. He, by the way, is the guy in the middle of the infield with the ball. Even a bad them isn't really all that bad on the day when they have a good pitcher on the hill. (See: Mariners, Seattle and Hernandez, Felix.) The Yankees went into Cleveland early this season and had the good fortune to face Ubaldo Jimenez and Carlos Carrasco on consecutive days. Lucky them.

If there are any more simple fundamentals of baseball you'd like me to explain to you, please feel free to ask.
 
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