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lgna69xxx

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You said the same thing about Jeter last season, then he bitch slapped all red sox fans with one of his best season's "evah"...

What heat? I am perfectly fine with how the Yanks are playing despite all the injuries... Not a bit concerned...I am just waiting for the dramatic fall from baseball grace by the red sox like always the last few years lol.

Btw, speaking of rocks, your #1 red sox "homer fan" was nowhere to be seen most of last season, as well as yourself after the allstar game ;)

oops!

:lol:

It's comedy because it's the Yankees!! Jeter's 39 years old and has no business drawing a check. Of course all last season you and your buddies under the rock now couldn't wait for the next day to speak of the Sox, now the shoe is on the other foot. What's wrong buddy boy, can't stand the heat then, stay out the kitchen!!
 

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Make that 1 1/2 games.
I have some bad news for you, iggy. After tomorrow, no more Minnesota Twins. Yup, after tomorrow it's Boston, Texas, Tampa Bay, LA Dodgers, and more. In fact, between the All Star Game and the end of the season, the light hitting, pitching poor Yankees, play a total of 12 games against weak teams. Lots of Boston, Tampa Bay, Detroit, Texas, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, and Baltimore.

Not only that, after the break, the Yankees have 37 road games, the Sox have 31. Not only that, but 9 of the Yankees road games are in Fenway Park.

The only team the light hitting Yankees will be catching in the standings is Toronto.

My apologies iggy, for confusing you with the facts, yet again.
 

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The laughable thing is that the light hitting Yankees are saying that Cap'n Jetes is out until after the All Star Break. Typical recovery time for a grade one sprain is 2-3 weeks. For a 39 year old man coming off two broken ankles, it's probably a month or more. Maybe iggy is writing their press releases. Tough break for a team with a brutal schedule in front of them.

Yanks have old Jeter, not Jeter of old
In summoning their captain too hastily, Bombers forgot Derek is 39 now -- not 29


By Ian O'Connor
ESPNNewYork.com

NEW YORK -- Derek Jeter as the DH in the Bronx rather than as the DH in Moosic, Pa., made all the sense in the world to Jeter, to Brian Cashman, to Joe Girardi. Why have the captain of the New York Yankees play one side of the ball for the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders when he could do the same for the big boys?

Especially when the big boys are a half-dozen games behind the Red Sox.

They all got carried away, the captain, the manager and the executive. They forgot that Jeter is 39 years old, that 39-year-old ballplayers aren't supposed to play seven innings of a Triple-A game, field unexpected news at 11:30 p.m., travel 125 miles in the dead of night and rise at 6:30 a.m. after a couple of hours of fitful sleep to play a big league game for the first time in nine months.

They all wanted and needed Derek Jeter to be Derek Jeter again, the Yankee whose pain threshold and ability to answer the bell reminded Gene Monahan, a team trainer for nearly half a century, of Thurman Munson's.

So that's why Jeter was promoted a day and change ahead of schedule. That's why he never played a full nine innings with the RailRiders before showing up in the Bronx for the first time since he fractured his ankle last fall, this after the Yanks had planned for Jeter to go nine in back-to-back Triple-A games.

That's why Jeter's comeback was declared one-and-done Friday, suspended on account of a Grade 1 strain of the shortstop's quad. That's why Jeter is more likely than not to end up back on the disabled list before he ends up back on the field.

Cashman and Girardi summoned a 29-year-old Jeter from the minors and got the 39-year-old version instead.

They didn't want to admit that this was about age and that an athletic, middle-of-his-prime Jeter wouldn't have pulled up lame against Kansas City after gunning it down the line for a couple of slow infield rollers.

Cashman and Girardi know how sensitive Jeter is about everything, never mind his advanced ballplayer age.

So this is what Girardi said when asked whether he's concerned that a physically vulnerable Jeter is the one he'll have to manage for as long as the captain plays:

"I hadn't thought about that. I figured he'd come back and, yeah, I'd have to spell him here and there like I did last year, and have to be smart about it. But I didn't expect this to happen. ... I think this will heal fine and he will be fine, but I don't think it's a guy that you can run out there 40, 50 days in a row like you used to."

So this is what Cashman said when asked whether Jeter's latest injury was a simple case of an athlete losing the inevitable lost-cause battle to gravity and time:

"I don't want to say 39 [years old] as much as he's coming off a broken foot, a twice-broken foot, so stuff can happen. ... I don't want to say it's Father Time knocking on his door and reminding him as much as listen, he really is coming back from something pretty significant, and the kinetic chain can tell you if everything's not in line, it makes you more susceptible, especially when you ask for that extra from your tank. And when he asked for that extra there, if he's not 100 percent in line for a period of time, then something's going to give."

Cashman and Girardi want to blame the fractured ankle and want to embrace the notion that athletes of all ages could suffer a setback or two when returning from an injury so severe. Jeter wants to embrace the notion that his ankle snapped in the 12th inning of Game 1 of the Detroit sweep not because he was 38, but because he kept playing through a bone bruise.
 

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BOYZ,

It's comedy because it's the Yankees!!

It's comedy because some desperate fan thinks beating the Twins means the Yankees can get to the playoffs..."playoffs...don't talk about...playoffs...you kidding me...playoffs" :lol: - Jim Mora.

Yanks have old Jeter, not Jeter of old
In summoning their captain too hastily, Bombers forgot Derek is 39 now -- not 29


By Ian O'Connor
ESPNNewYork.com

"I hadn't thought about that. I figured he'd come back and, yeah, I'd have to spell him here and there like I did last year, and have to be smart about it. But I didn't expect this to happen. ...

"I don't want to say 39 [years old] as much as he's coming off a broken foot, a twice-broken foot, so stuff can happen. ... I don't want to say it's Father Time knocking on his door and reminding him as much as listen, he really is coming back from something pretty significant, and the kinetic chain can tell you if everything's not in line, it makes you more susceptible, especially when you ask for that extra from your tank. And when he asked for that extra there, if he's not 100 percent in line for a period of time, then something's going to give."

Just more insight that the Yankee world is delusional on both counts of age and injury impact. That, or Cashman is trying to redeem his great embarrassment over getting nothing out of a $20 million per year contract by desperately throwing a cardboard player onto the field.

Meanwhile before last night's game the Red Sox had 19 come from behind victories this year. Unlike the Bronx bums and Kuroda who won over a lousy team, Lackey and the Red Sox beat the division leading Athletics with another gritty performance as Pedroia came through with 2 outs. Unlike the FAILED Yankees fans predictions for their team the Red Sox are exceeding all pre-season expectations.

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The lowly low-budget Minnesota Twins have the second worst team ERA in the major leagues, a pitiful 4.49. That means in a typical two game stretch, their opposition averages almost 9 runs.

In the last 24 hours, the lowly high-budget light-hitting New York Yankees have played two games against the lowly low-budget Twins and managed to score a total of three runs. Total wow.
 

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Too bad for the Twins that they don't play the Yankees for 162 games. They've already scored 8 runs in only 4 innings against CC, whose best days are obviously behind him.
 

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Just imagine how much better the Jays would be if they had CC who out of the 8 runs, 3 were earned. Still not his best day but much better than the last starts by Buehrle and Josh Johnson who have combined to give up 15 earned runs between them, just WOW!

If the Jays do not come out hotter than a frying pan set on high after the allstar break and run off 9 or10 wins out of their first 12 they are toast. Will the fire sale begin? Reyes gone? Bautista? Edwin E? cant see much else leaving especially the starters minus maybe Dickey but likely not even him. What a mess it has become in Jays land after the high hopes... really disappointing as i to am a Jays fan... oh well, the NHL training camps will be here in mid september, not that long to wait.
 

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One thing is for sure, the Red Sox will fail miserably (what else is new), this is one of the most inept, poorly mismanaged organizations in all of sports year in and year out, their piss poor historical record speaks for itself, a stinking, lousy 7 WS wins in 112 years says it all, the percentages for this team to succeed are against this disgrace of a organisation, you just watch, I have always been bang on with my predictions for the Red Sox.
 

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I have always been bang on with my predictions for the Red Sox.
Oh, that's right. I forgot how you predicted the biggest choke in the history of professional sports back in 2004.

Wow, quite a pounding the light hitting, pitching poor Yankees' one-time ace, Cheeseburger Cheeseburger Sabathia, took today.
 

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Indeed, the Jays have had possibly their most disappointing first half in their history. The recent 11-game winning streak gave the fans hope, but still too many disappointments. Nothing wrong with the seasons Edwin Encarnacion, Adam Lind, Jose Bautista, Colby Rasmus & Maicer Isturis have had, but the injuries to Jose Reyes & Brett Lawrie have hurt them badly. It's probably no coincidence that losing left fielder Melky Cabrera for several weeks hurt them, since his injury happened near the end of that 11-game winning streak. The bright spot of the team has been the bullpen, which has been nothing short of magnificient.

Starters Josh Johnson & R.A. Dickey have been major disappointments. Mark Buehrle has been one of the team's top two starters along with the surprising Esmil Rogers. Brandon Morrow has been injured for most of the season. His once-promising career now appears like it will be hurt by his constant trips to the disabled list.

I can't see a fire sale happening. For what? Start over next season and outspend everybody again?

I see them trying to trade Josh Johnson since he'll be a free agent after this season and he's very unlikely to re-sign with the Jays. Brandon Morrow might be shipped out since he's injury-prone. In the bullpen, maybe Darren Oliver & Casey Janssen could be shipped out, but i'd be weary of trading Janssen. And will Jose Santos ever be able to play more than 10 games without going back on the DL? I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to unload him also.

Other players who might be traded are utility players such as Rajai Davis & Emilio Bonifacio.

But there will be no fire sale.
 

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Doc - I don't mean to be a nitpicker like the delusional rumples or the worlds foremost authority on fence sitting Merlot but it's Sergio Santos and not Jose, lets wait for the season to play out, we still have another half season of baseball to be played and a lot of things can happen, ex: trades, players coming back from injuries, players being injured, the expected epic Red Sox collapse and the list of excuses that rumples will list for them, etc, lets make judgements in October.
 

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Well look who's got the best record in the AL going into the ASB this week! NO ONE and I MEAN NO ONE would have predicted this although many would have predicted where the NYY would be at this point, as a matter of fact I think I did right from the beginning. 4th F'N PLACE suckas!!
 

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Doc - I don't mean to be a nitpicker like the delusional rumples or the worlds foremost authority on fence sitting Merlot but it's Sergio Santos and not Jose......

I know, but he's pitched like Jose Santos since the Jays got f**** in that transaction last season. So until he proves me wrong, i'll still call him JOSE. :rolleyes:
 

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...lets make judgements in October.

:lol:

You've got to be the biggest space cadet (never know what you're talking about) I've ever read. Now you want to wait to make "judgements in October". Your statement is hilarious after you made every judgement possible in March, including giving every award and title to all Yankees players before the season started. Your first Cy Young pick, one of several since you keep changing from your FENCE WAFFLING POSITION, Sabathia just got his ass kicked in EPIC fashion to the team with a 4.49 ERA suckfest known as the 39-53 Twins, to a pitcher with a 6.45 ERA, while scoring the usual light hitting Yankees maximum 4 runs. That's the second night in a row to a team that was 37-53 at the time.

My Prediction: buy lots of beer and pork rinds Joe because fatboy Sabathia will need it when he and the team are watching all of the playoffs from your couch.

...NYY...4th F'N PLACE suckas!!

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, that can't be right. Joe said the Yankees would win the Series. Right Joe. ;) BWAH!!!

Indeed, the Jays have had possibly their most disappointing first half in their history. ...but the injuries to Jose Reyes & Brett Lawrie have hurt them badly. It's probably no coincidence that losing left fielder Melky Cabrera for several weeks hurt them,...

Injuries to Jose Reyes, Brett Lawrie, Melky Cabrera are the reason. Where's the depth? The Sox have had players in and out of their lineup all year, and they weren't starting with any but 2 to 3 big name players to begin with. One would figure the Jays might find some .250 players somewhere who could fill indecently to keep the team from being 11.5 out. There's got to be more to it than 3 injured players to be that much down. Chemistry? Fielding? Hitting strategy? Something else. Right now the Jays are one of the most disappointing teams in the league.

really,

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Injuries to Jose Reyes, Brett Lawrie, Melky Cabrera are the reason. Where's the depth? The Sox have had players in and out of their lineup all year, and they weren't starting with any but 2 to 3 big name players to begin with. One would figure the Jays might find some .250 players somewhere who could fill indecently to keep the team from being 11.5 out. There's got to be more to it than 3 injured players to be that much down. Chemistry? Fielding? Hitting strategy? Something else. Right now the Jays are one of the most disappointing teams in the league.

really,

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Their biggest problem starts at the top with their coach, John Gibbons, didn't they learn the first time? Meanwhile, John Farrell is easily MOY in the AL so far this year. One of the most genius pickups the Sox have ever made in acquiring Farrell from the Jays. Oh and Benny C, GMOY without question!
 

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Meanwhile, John Farrell is easily MOY in the AL so far this year. One of the most genius pickups the Sox have ever made in acquiring Farrell from the Jays. Oh and Benny C, GMOY without question!
Absoluckingfutely!! Consider, the light hitting, pitching poor Yankees have a payroll almost $20,000,000 higher than last year, they suck mightily, and they're going to be even worse next year after Kuroda, Pettitte Hughes, Rivera and Cano are gone. The pitiful Blue Jays have taken their payroll from $83,739,200 last year to $119,277,000 this year, up $36 million with nothing to show for it.

Meanwhile, the first place Boston Red Sox have shed $21,000,000 off of last years $175,000,000 payroll. Manager of the Year: John Farrell, General Manager of the Decade: Ben Cherington.
 

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Their biggest problem starts at the top with their coach, John Gibbons, didn't they learn the first time?

Hello SK,

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/sort/avg/order/true

Toronto ranks 16th in batting by AVG, and 24th in pitching by ERA. Boston ranks 2nd and 16th respectively. Evidently the Jays know how to hit home runs, leading Boston by 17, but still have produced 70 less RUNS despite the paradox that Boston has struck out 112 times more than Toronto, though the Sox have 124 more HITS. Some of the numbers seem contradictory between the teams, so it may well be that coaching decisions have been critical in the difference of team success.

Red Sox Set ASB Records:

BOSTON (AP) -- The expensive flops are gone. So is the misfit manager. And the Boston Red Sox are winning again.

Winning more than any other team in major league baseball.

That's 58 wins, most in the majors and just 11 fewer than they had all last season.

Keep up the .598 pace they have at the All-Star break and they'll finish with 97 wins, 28 more than last year when they had their worst record in 52 years.

"Overall, very proud of the way this team has played," manager John Farrell said in his usual low-key manner. "The number of guys that we've called upon have contributed. Our guys deserve a much-needed couple of days off here."

His steady style and reluctance to criticize players is just what the Red Sox needed after one disastrous season under Bobby Valentine, who rarely wandered far from the spotlight even if it meant knocking his players publicly.

The Red Sox also needed a more cohesive clubhouse.

They got that by trading disgruntled Adrian Gonzalez, injured Carl Crawford and declining Josh Beckett -- and unloading more than $250 million in salaries -- to the Los Angeles Dodgers last August and adding consistent, if unspectacular, contributors like Mike Napoli, Shane Victorino, Jonny Gomes, Mike Carp and Koji Uehara.

And with Clay Buchholz sidelined since improving to 9-0 on June 8, Allen Webster, Alfredo Aceves and Brad Workman helped fill the void.

When third baseman Will Middlebrooks was sent to the minors after struggling and shortstop Stephen Drew was injured, there were solid reinforcements. Slick-fielding Jose Iglesias is batting .367 as Drew's replacement, and Brock Holt and Brandon Snyder have combined for 14 RBIs in 19 games at third.

"We're at 42 players and counting," Farrell said. "Seventeen above and beyond the 25 players who began the season. We have a number of talented guys. We can tap into a good group of players who have made significant contributions."

The Red Sox lead the majors in many major offensive categories -- runs, hits, doubles, RBIs, walks and on-base percentage. They're second in batting average, triples and slugging percentage.

At .277, they trail only the Detroit Tigers in batting average. And six players who started Sunday's 3-2 loss to the Oakland Athletics, the Red Sox's last game before the break, are batting .300 or higher.

Last year, the Red Sox hit .260 and didn't spend a single day in first place. This year, they've led their division for 87 days, including the last 49.

Buchholz, Dustin Pedroia and David Ortiz all made the All-Star game, although Buchholz was replaced because of injury.

Pedroia has been outstanding all season. He's hitting .317 and has been spectacular on defense at second base. Ortiz missed the early part of the season with a heel problem. Since returning, he's been a dangerous slugger with a .316 batting average and leads the team with 19 homers and 65 RBIs.

"The All-Star break comes at a good time," said Gomes, whose presence has helped knit a once-fraying clubhouse. "We've got some guys heading up there to New York who will hopefully get us some home-field advantage and give us an opportunity to lick our wounds and get back to work."

Farrell's influence has been significant on the pitchers. He worked with some of them in his four years as Terry Francona's pitching coach from 2007-10.

Buchholz's turnaround has been the most impressive after he went 11-8 last year. Jon Lester won his first six decisions but has struggled since then. John Lackey, who missed all last season following Tommy John elbow surgery, leads Boston with a 2.78 ERA in 16 starts while walking just 23 in 100 1-3 innings.


iggy:

I know why you deleted your post. Since you understand English only as well as you write it, even you realize you have no idea what you're talking about. :D :thumb:

Cheers BOY!

Merlot
 

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Actually i deleted it because i wanted to feel what it is like to post something, then delete it like you do 3 times daily :lol: i have to say, there really is no thrill in it, so why do you do it so much :confused: having a few to many cocktails when playing on MERB maybe?

ps... so glad you had a chance to see it though, bud ;)


iggy:
I know why you deleted your post.

Cheers BOY!Merlot
 

lgna69xxx

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I dont think after that sentence you should be pointing fingers at anyones writings, oops! lol but you get an A for effort bro :thumb:
iggy

I know why you deleted your post. Since you understand English only as well as you write it, even your realize you have no idea what you're talking about.Merlot

*update* Atta boy, nice that you corrected but the original still stands, lol.....
 
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