2013 Official Major League Baseball Thread.

[rumpleforeskiin]

Pride, Guts, Determination
and six runs in the bottom of the ninth to extend the Sox lead over the Rays to a full game.

Have there ever been two better free agent signings than Jonny Gomes and Shane "The Flyin' Hawaiian" Victorino?

 

[lgna69xxx]

Let the old guy have his fun Mr.T.... you remember how he was in here all season long in 2011 UNTIL September right? You also remember how he was all of 2012 in feb, march and april correct? This is his world series, let him have some fun because like Ryan Dempster on a usual night, he wont be around long (in here) especially once the red sox start the free fall.

 

[Joe.t]

Jonny Gomes, WAR = .03

Absolutely pathetic.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

iggy: If you recall, Fred Zed, in response to your whining, has banned any communication between you and me as well as all references to each other in posts on the board. Your last post is in violation of this order. Any future violations will be reported to the mods.

Joe: I realize that trying to teach you things about baseball is invariably futile, but it's my feeling that any man who finds Anna Nikova's sagging udders attractive deserves special consideration, so I'll try. While it's nice that you're trying to use WAR in your "analyses," let me try to help you use it in an informed manner, with the understanding that you prefer the uninformed.

WAR stand for wins above replacement. A team of "replacement level" players is assumed to win about 48 games over the course of a full season. So, if you take Gomes .3 WAR and adjust it to a full season's worth of plate appearances, a team full of Jonny Gomes would win in the vicinity of 73 games. When you consider his rather pedestrian .745 ops and his weak defense, that doesn't seem terribly off.

How many games would a team full of Travis Hafners win? Hafner's WAR is -.1 in half a season's worth of plate appearances, so a team full of Travis Hafners would win 43 games. A team full of Vernon Wells would win 48 games. A team full of CC Sabathias would win 53 games. Yes, Joe, Jonny Gomes WAR is three times that of CC Sabathia.

A lesson learned, I hope, Joe, that before you shoot yourself in the foot, it's always best to know what you're talking about. No thanks necessary.

 

[Joe.t]

Pride, Guts, Determination
and six runs in the bottom of the ninth to extend the Sox lead over the Rays to a full game.

Have there ever been two better free agent signings than Jonny Gomes and Shane "The Flyin' Hawaiian" Victorino?

iggy: If you recall, Fred Zed, in response to your whining, has banned any communication between you and me as well as all references to each other in posts on the board. Your last post is in violation of this order. Any future violations will be reported to the mods.

Joe: I realize that trying to teach you things about baseball is invariably futile, but it's my feeling that any man who finds Anna Nikova's sagging udders attractive deserves special consideration, so I'll try. While it's nice that you're trying to use WAR in your "analyses," let me try to help you use it in an informed manner, with the understanding that you prefer the uninformed.

WAR stand for wins above replacement. A team of "replacement level" players is assumed to win about 48 games over the course of a full season. So, if you take Gomes .3 WAR and adjust it to a full season's worth of plate appearances, a team full of Jonny Gomes would win in the vicinity of 73 games. When you consider his rather pedestrian .745 ops and his weak defense, that doesn't seem terribly off.

How many games would a team full of Travis Hafners win? Hafner's WAR is -.1 in half a season's worth of plate appearances, so a team full of Travis Hafners would win 43 games. A team full of Vernon Wells would win 48 games. A team full of CC Sabathias would win 53 games. Yes, Joe, Jonny Gomes WAR is three times that of CC Sabathia.

A lesson learned, I hope, Joe, that before you shoot yourself in the foot, it's always best to know what you're talking about. No thanks necessary.

Thank you so much for going into great detail to explain my point, the bottom line is that he stinks to high heaven any way you look at it, now you can take your foot out of your mouth.


In future please refrain from personal attacks on people that have nothing to do with the baseball thread, It is much more fun trading quips with a delusional person rather than a very stupid one.

BTW - Good luck in the Lotto Fuck draw tonight, the lucky numbers should be out around 8pm.:thumb:

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Thank you so much for going into great detail to explain my point, the bottom line is that he stinks to high heaven any way you look at it, now you can take your foot out of your mouth.

Yes, Joe, a team full of Jonny Gomes wouldn't do so well. A team with Jonny Gomes as a fourth/fifth outfielder can and is doing very well indeed. You see how well the light hitting NY Yankees are doing with a bunch of 4th/5th outfielders and infielders in their starting lineup every day.

Fangraphs suggests that 1 WAR is worth about $5 million; Jonny Gomes is worth his salary.

And for the record, I was not attacking Ms. N.; I was simply describing her bovine features. And as for fun trading quips with the terminally delusional, I actually don't really enjoy trading quips with you. My futile attempts to educate you are merely a form of public service.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Sorry bro, but i never asked Fred to 1.ban you from pm'ing me nor 2. commenting towards my posts ever, and you are the only one he told, i never got any such PM from him telling ME to not post or comment on anything you write on MERB nor to PM you. I even told him that it was ok for you to pm me and comment towards my posts and thats not a problem as long as it does not break the rules. I have no problem with you as long as it's within the rules set forth on MERB.

iggy: If you recall, Fred Zed, in response to your whining, has banned any communication between you and me as well as all references to each other in posts on the board.

Baseball is like the lottery in some ways,Joe... you just never know whats gonna happen from one game to the next unless yur the Astros and losing is likely to happen night after night. What time is the Lotto-F drawing tonight? What do you mean good luck to him? I seriously doubt he is in the contest bro, for obvious and multiple reasons in other threads.

In future please refrain from personal attacks on people that have nothing to do with the baseball thread, It is much more fun trading quips with a delusional person rather than a very stupid one.

BTW - Good luck in the Lotto Fuck draw tonight, the lucky numbers should be out around 8pm.:thumb:

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Sorry bro, but i never asked Fred to 1.ban you from pm'ing me nor 2. commenting towards my posts ever, and you are the only one he told, i never got any such PM from him telling ME to not post or comment on anything you write on MERB nor to PM you. I even told him that it was ok for you to pm me and comment towards my posts and thats not a problem as long as it does not break the rules. I have no problem with you as long as it's within the rules set forth on MERB.

Well, maybe Fred doesn't like to be bothered with small shit. In any regard, I did receive a polite request from Fred and I intend to honour it. This is, after all, his domain. Naturally, it is implied that you will follow suit as an order like this can only be a two way street.

I will not respond to any of your posts nor will I PM you as long as this order is in effect. I expect the same in return. Any violation of Fred's request on your part will be reported to the mods. You don't like it, write to Fred. "Bro."

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

In other news, Red Sox owner John Henry has just purchased the Boston Globe. Does this mean that Special K favorite Dan Shaughnessy will be shown the door?

BTW, has anyone noticed just how thoroughly CC Sabathia sucks? And has anybody noticed just how many times this year the Yankees have scored two runs? Boy, Soriano, Granderson, and Derek .211 Jeter to the rescue hasn't rescued much of anything.

 

[lgna69xxx]

I guess you have a hard time to comprehend things, for the last time i was not the one who was slapped on the wrist and then given a get out of jail card free, so you are off the hook so to speak and free to comment and debate with yours truly, broskie, just play by the rules like everyone else has to and you will never hear anything further.

Now, back to the thread title and i see that Lester is back to being the guy we all know and love, meanwhile CC is doing his best impersonation of JL lately. CC is probably the next Yankee to go on the DL.

Well, maybe Fred doesn't like to be bothered with small shit. In any regard, I did receive a polite request from Fred and I intend to honour it. This is, after all, his domain. Naturally, it is implied that you will follow suit as an order like this can only be a two way street.

I will not respond to any of your posts nor will I PM you as long as this order is in effect. I expect the same in return. Any violation of Fred's request on your part will be reported to the mods. You don't like it, write to Fred. "Bro."

 

[Mod 8]

The only thing we ask is that people behave like adults and not like children. It seems that people are able to do that everywhere on MERB, for the most part, except here in the Sports section.

I have no intention of trying to micromanage the Sports threads to the level of keeping track of who replies to who's post. I would like to remind everyone that the last time the Sports threads started getting out of hand, I shut down every thread in the Sports section for a number of months. I will have no second thoughts about doing the same thing again if people continue to spend more time attacking each other than they do posting about sports.

Take that into consideration before hitting the POST button.

M8

 

[lgna69xxx]

Agreed Mod8 .... thanks for the clarification.

 

[smuler]

Being a Met fan

What do you guys think of Matt Harvey and Zack Wheeler so far ?

Hopefully in a year or two, we will be thinking about contending for the playoffs

I still hope to see this catcher that we got in the RA Dickey deal soon

He was highly rated...

Best Regards

Smuler

 

[daydreamer41]

Being a Met fan

What do you guys think of Matt Harvey and Zack Wheeler so far ?

Hopefully in a year or two, we will be thinking about contending for the playoffs

I still hope to see this catcher that we got in the RA Dickey deal soon

He was highly rated...

Best Regards

Smuler

Matt Harvey will be a top starting pitcher. Zach Wheeler may be a good pitcher also. Too bad the Mets couldn't keep Reyes. Wright and Reyes were probably the best SS / 3B combination in baseball, both hitting and fielding. I think with a few good prospects and a couple acquisitions the Mets could make the playoffs. Too bad the owner was caught up in the Madoff scandal.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

If Jeter

Well, that was a nice idea. Wonder if he's going to exercise his $8 M player option. Cashman is pray that he doesn't and simply retires with a bit of grace.

A-Rod

the appeal should take about 30 days, then bye bye.

and Granderson

one out of five ain't good.

and Cervelli all come back soon

does the last day of the season count as soon?

not to mention the fireballing Pineda.

not to mention is probably a good idea since he's likely to be shut down for the rest of the season with shoulder soreness.

You forgot to mention David Phelps. Just as well as the usual remedy for elbow soreness is TJ, meaning Phelpsie will be returning about the same time as A-rod, April 2015.

Consider the 2014 Yankee starting rotation:

Kuroda - moved on to Japan or Los Angeles or to some team that can compete
Hughes - moved on to some low budget team with a big outfield
Pettitte - retired
Phelps - recovering in Tampa

that leaves, considering the barren state of the farm system:
Sabathia, or what's left of him
Nova aka Mr. Incosistent
Aunt Gertrude
Aunt Mildred
Uncle Frank

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

With major suspensions coming down today, let's review:

Yankees or ex-Yankees linked to Biogenesis:
Alex Rodriguez
Melky Cabrera
Francisco Cervelli
Jesus Montero

Red Sox linked to Biogenesis:
none

Yankees linked to Biogenesis in Daydreamer41's and Joe.T's alternate universe:
none

Red Sox linked to Biogenesis in Daydreamer41's and Joe.T's alternate universe:
David Ortiz
Carl Yastrzemski
Carlton Fisk
Dwight Evans
Mel Parnell
Walt Dropo
Nomar Garciaparra
Ted Lepcio
Bruce Hurst
Bill Lee
Rick Burleson
Jackie Jensen
Bill Monbouquette
Curt Schilling
Orlando Cabrera
George "Boomer" Scott
Mo Vaughn
Jim Rice
Johnny Pesky

 

[Doc Holliday]

I for one am hoping that A-Rod fights the ban with all the millions he has and wind up getting off with a slap on the wrist, only because i believe it would be terribly unfair that the Yankees are off-the-hook for the nearly $100 million they would owe him were he not suspended. I also do not believe A-Rod can help the Yankees much anyways as a player. As things stand, he helps them tremendously if he winds up getting a long suspension.

I'm also hoping Melky Cabrera gets two years, which i doubt he'll ever get. He's been a tremendous bust this season, mostly because his body has broken down in various ways throughout the season, and his production has suffered greatly. The Jays owe him another year & i'm sure they wouldn't mind if he got suspended until 2015. However, i'm not even certain he'll be suspended. He already served 50 games and MLB might figure it was from using the same stuff from that Miami clinic.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Doc, Melky's not likely to get suspended at all, having served a suspension last year. My guess is that A-Roid's suspension will be reduced to the same 50 games as the others. The reason he's being suspended for longer is because he attempted to manipulate the evidence. The problem MLB has with that argument is that Melky also attempted to manipulate evidence by creating a fake product on a fake website. A-Rod's lawyers can cite that precedent in getting his suspension reduced.

Back to Melky. Don't you think that the Jays should have known better than to give a guy who was barely a major leaguer that kind of contract immediately after he was busted?

 

[Doc Holliday]

Doc, Melky's not likely to get suspended at all, having served a suspension last year.

I just heard on Mad Dog Radio that Melky, Bartolo & Gio won't get suspended.

Not surprised about Melky, considering he supposedly hadn't even been approached by MLB in regards to possibly making a deal or advising him he'd be suspended.

Melky's season is likely over anyways, considering he now has a partially torn knee ligament.

I thought it was a good signing. He was a batting champ in the NL and played very well previously for K.C. Decent outfielder. However, they didn't expect all the leg injuries he's had. He did hit fairly well, though, prior to getting injured. But he shouldn't have played while injured, unless as a DH. Too many balls fell in the outfield where any regular outfielder would have reached & caught.

And finally, not only am i surprised David Ortiz never got caught, but i'm as surprised that Derek Jeter never tested positive either. Or has he?

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

And finally, not only am i surprised David Ortiz never got caught, but i'm as surprised that Derek Jeter never tested positive either.

Have you considered the possibility, the likelihood in fact, that they're both clean? (Except, of course, in Joe.T's alternate bizarro universe.)