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Doc Holliday

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nother low class piece of crap is jon lackie for the things he said about arod playing during the appeals....duh you doofus, those things were bargained for in the cba, something both you and Arod benefit from AS PLAYERS. But why should anyone repsect a guy that leaves his wife while she is in the hospital battling cancer.... scumbag, and he fits right in with the team he plays for, just as dumpster does.

Indeed, John Slackie fucked around on his wife & dumped her while she was battling cancer......in other words, he pulled a Newt Gingrich. Scumbags!!! :rolleyes:
 

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And of course, that infamous September Factor. 'Nuff said.
Oh yes, the infamous September factor, which has affected the Sox exactly, um, once. C'mon, Doc, you're too smart to be parroting Wynken Blynken and Nod.

You're right about the Yankees slim chances of making the post-season. The Sox, who knows. They were four up on Tampa, one behind, four up again, and now one up. It's really about who gets hot at the right time. The Sox have a tough road trip this week, but luckily they dodge Cain, Bumgarner, Greinke, and Kershaw. I'm hoping for 3-3, then they come home for the bulk of the season with a bunch of days off. The Sox have 6 days off between now and the end, the Rays only 2. And they've just recalled Xander Bogaerts, ranked the #3 prospect in all of baseball.

The Sox are also lucky that Dempster didn't get booted last night, as he well should have been. The last thing they needed was to ask 8 innings from the bullpen before heading west.

You're right about the bullpen. It is shaky after Breslow, Tazawa, and Uehara. As for the holes in the lineup, you mean the holes that have them leading the majors in runs scored, those holes?
 

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Brian Cashman's mistress says he knew about New York Yankees using PEDs

Brian Cashman’s alleged mistress claims the New York Yankees general manager revealed to her he knew several of his players used steroids.

According to court documents obtained by the New York Daily News, Louise Meanwell claims that during a 10-month affair with Cashman he told her he “knew of Yankee clubhouse steroid use by various Yankee players by name.”

Cashman also allegedly said he “was ambivalent to the use of performance enhancement drugs so long as nothing came back to the Yankee organization.”

By filing, Meanwell can now be called to the stand in Rodriguez’s legal showdown with MLB and the Yankees as he fights a 211-game suspension.

That may present a legal conflict of interest, Meanwell claims, because her lawyer, Stephen Turano, is a partner of Rodriguez’s lawyer, Joe Tacopina. Turano is representing Meanwell in a New Jersey case.

Tacopina insisted there isn’t any conflict because Turano isn’t representing Meanwell through their Manhattan-based firm.

“I have never spoken to Stephen Turano about her,” Tacopina said.

“This is an egregiously frivolous motion and it will be met with appropriate force.”

Meanwell is accused of violating probation in New Jersey for allegedly extorting a Hoboken man.

She is also due for a pre-trial appearance in Manhattan on Tuesday for her alleged attempt to shake down Cashman for $15,000 last year.

Meanwell is charged with perjury, harassment, grand larceny, stalking and other related charges.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Baseball/MLB/2013/08/19/21059696.html
 

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Braun tried to use the old JOKER trick

When you get caught cheating and your a lousy bluffer what do you do? You try and pull the old joker out of the deck trick:






If you were still wondering just how despicable Ryan Braun’s actions were in the wake of his positive test for elevated levels of testosterone late in the 2011 baseball season, I think we may have finally hit rock bottom.

According to a new report from ESPN’s Buster Olney, while mounting a campaign for support of his appeal against a suspension in early 2012, Braun claimed the man who handled his positive test – Dino Laurenzi, Jr. – was anti-Semetic. Braun, who is Jewish, also said that Laurenzi was a Chicago Cubs fan, implying that he would have an incentive in seeing Braun suspended.

Braun successfully appeal the 50-game suspension in 2012 due to questions about how Laurenzi had handled the test, but never actually disputed the fact that he had tested positive. Braun was suspended by Major League Baseball for the remainder of the 2013 season on July 22 due to his connection to the Biogenesis clinic in Miami.

Braun reportedly called fellow major leaguers to rally support for his cause. Los Angeles Dodgers outfielder Matt Kemp, Cincinnati Reds first baseman Joey Votto and Colorado Rockies shortstop Troy Tulowitzki were among those contacted. A number of the players Braun reached out to, and some of his teammates, believed the allegations about Laurenzi.

A source close to Laurenzi has said any allegations of anti-Semitism are completely untrue.

A person close to Braun issued the following statement to ESPN:


Ryan isn’t currently commenting on anything – rumor or reality – related to his arbitration process or his suspension. He has acknowledged mistakes, accepted his punishment, and is beginning to make amends and will comment at an appropriate time.

After Braun won his appeal, he referred to Laurenzi derisively in a statement to the press, essentially blaming him for the positive test.

Over the past few days rumors have circulated that Braun is planning to speak publicly for the first time since his drug suspension at some point in the near future, perhaps as soon as Monday. Sources close to Braun are indicating that he wants to make things right.

Personally, I think it’s going to take a lot for Braun to “make things right.” And the first person he should be apologizing to is Dino Laurenzi Jr.

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Brian Cashman's mistress says he knew about New York Yankees using PEDs

In the Mitchell Report it was widely publicized that then Boston Red Sox GM Theo Epstein knew exactly which players he was acquiring were on PEDs, Eric "Gone Gone" Gagne being the most notable one mentioned. Epstein was informed of Gagne's PED use by Red Sox scouts and made the trade anyway, according to the Mitchell report.

This issue with Cashman is not really news except that it creates a conflict of interest situation for Joe Tacopina, A-Rod's attorney. All GMs in baseball, if they are doing their jobs, know which players on their teams are or were juiced.

I am pretty sure that the Yankees got rid of Melky Cabrera because they knew of his PED use and they viewed him as a bad influence on Robinson Cano.
 
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Who is Ryan Dempster to be the one to dole out justice like this? I am not an Aroid fan.

Who was Chris Sale of the White Sox to plunk mr. roid on his second day back? In my previous post I called what Dempster did incredibly stupid and questionable as a strategy at all. So we agree, what's the problem.

I sure wish I knew why Arod gets 211 and the next highest suspension is 65.

Some people here seem to be deliberately ignoring the huge difference between A-Rod and the others. First, to my knowledge no proof has been published of the offenses against anyone including A-Rod. Yet despite that lack of evidence publicly, 12 players with the guidance of their lawyers accepted suspensions and the loss of millions. Why would they think of doing that if they hadn't seen strong evidence against them. It indicates at the least that they were definitely guilty and their counsels were happy to make a deal and keep the evidence under wraps.

In A-Rods case the difference is allegedly attempting to cover-up and tamper with evidence. That's a huge leap from cheating and lying. Anyone who thinks the MLB would pronounce a 211 game suspension without being confident the arbitrator will back their evidence is dreaming. Whether the arbitrator agrees the evidence is clear enough is another matter, but clearly the MLB thinks so confidently enough that it won't suffer an embarrassment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/19/joseph-tacopina-a-rod-lawyer-mlb-evidence_n_3781620.html

NEW YORK -- A lawyer for Alex Rodriguez declined Major League Baseball's challenge to make public the evidence that led to the 211-game suspension of the New York Yankees star.

MLB executive vice president Rob Manfred wrote to lawyer Joseph Tacopina on Monday, urging him to waive his client's confidentiality under baseball's Joint Drug Agreement so the documents could be released. Tacopina had said he wanted to discuss evidence publicly but was constrained by the provision.

"We will agree to waive those provisions as they apply to both Rodriguez and the office of commissioner of baseball with respect to Rodriguez's entire history under the program, including, but not limited to, his testing history, test results, violations of the program, and all information and evidence relating to Rodriguez's treatment by Anthony Bosch, Anthony Galea and Victor Conte," Manfred wrote in the letter, which was released by MLB.

Bosch was head of the Biogenesis of America anti-aging clinic accused of distributing banned performance-enhancing drugs. Galea pleaded guilty two years ago to a federal charge of bringing unapproved drugs into the United States from Canada. Conte was head of the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative, the target of a federal investigation that led to criminal charges against Barry Bonds, Marion Jones and others.

Manfred proposed that both sides disclose information and documents relating to:

_ "All drug tests that were conducted on Rodriguez under the program and their results;"

_ "All prior violations of the program committed by Rodriguez" and;

_ "All documents relating to the issue of whether Rodriguez obstructed the office of the commissioner's investigation."

Tacopina, a lawyer with one of the four firms representing Rodriguez, said the players' association would have to agree to waive confidentiality.


Take into account that the MLB is willing to put all it's evidence out, but A-Rod and his lawyers refused. Just a ploy by the MLB? Or does the MLB have all they need to nail the cheater to the wall.

Dempster is a low class coward and a horrible pitcher in the AL ...Another low class piece of crap is jon lackie for the things he said about arod playing during the appeals...

Now for the totally unscrupulous, heeeeeereeeee's Iggy the cheap shot from under his rock artist taking personal shots because his team has no hope and he has nothing better to do. Where were all of these "coward" accusations when Yankee pitchers kept plunking Youk game after game after game.

John Lackie talking about A-Rod? Somehow sir no scruples missed days of ESPN where major stars and other players around the league are disgusted with all the cheaters, including the fraud, yet Lackie gets pointed out alone.

How many players has A-Rod and others cheated of their honest earnings, accolades and awards, stealing hundreds of millions from them by his phoney stats. Alex has robbed players, the league, the fans...maybe even Yankee pride in 2009...his whole career is a fraud. But according to iggy no one has the right to complain about that. GET A CLUE iggy.

Jon Lester, Red Sox blank Giants

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2...lank-giants/0znkpqlBdaP3KoFaW10qoO/story.html

SAN FRANCISCO — His teammates played a game against the Yankees Sunday night that ended well past midnight. They staggered home after a loss, caught a few hours of sleep, then flew here in the morning.

Jon Lester was afforded the luxury of flying ahead of the team so he could get a full night of rest before facing the Giants Monday night.

It worked out well for the lefthander. He pitched one of his best games of the season, taking a shutout into the ninth inning as the Red Sox beat the Giants, 7-0, before a crowd of 41,585 at AT&T Park.

With Tampa Bay beating Baltimore, 4-3, the Red Sox maintained a one-game lead in the American League East.

Lester (11-7) scattered six hits, walked two, and struck out three. He threw 115 pitches.

“Jon gave us exactly what we needed,’’ manager John Farrell said. “We needed a strong pitching performance.’’

The rest of the Sox seemed to have plenty of energy as they collected 11 hits off Tim Lincecum (6-13) and two relievers. Shane Victorino and Daniel Nava were each 3 for 4 with an RBI.

The game was a rematch of June 27, 2010 when Lester beat Lincecum, 5-1.

On that day, Lester went the distance and Lincecum gave up four runs over three innings. This time Lester was a little better as he blanked the Giants and gave the sliding Sox a lift.

The Sox had lost four of five and seven of their last 10 games. But Lester got them started on six-game interleague road trip with a solid win against the struggling Giants.

“My motivation is the same every game,’’ Lester said. “Obviously these guys had a long day. was fortunate enough to come in [Sunday]. We had a tough travel schedule. To do what we did tonight was big for us.”


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Your entitled to doubt him considering his tenure in Toronto, but the abysmal showing of the Jays this year proves their problems were and are a lot more than Farrell being in charge.
Bingo

You're also double-dealing on your analysis. If the Sox have that many holes in the lineup, pitching, and relief as you say then a significant part of what has kept them ahead must be given the management. You can't say a first place team is weak and the manager is a screw up when they have held first so long. If that were true they'd be in Toronto's position.
How very rare for a team to have shaky pitching, a shaky bullpen, and holes up and down the lineup and still be in first place. Sounds to my like shaky analysis.

I am pretty sure that the Yankees got rid of Melky Cabrera because they knew of his PED use and they viewed him as a bad influence on Robinson Cano.
Or more likely he was lacking in pride, guts and determination. :lol:
 

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I am pretty sure that the Yankees got rid of Melky Cabrera because they knew of his PED use and they viewed him as a bad influence on Robinson Cano.

That's a bunch of b.s.

Cabrera was just an average player both as a Yankee and with his next team, the Atlanta Braves. So i doubt he was using PED's at the time. If so, he should have asked for a refund.

The reason why the Yankees traded him to the Atlanta Braves was basically because they had given up on him & mostly because they wanted Javier Vasquez. A bonus was the fact Boone Logan was added to the deal. No other reason.

It's also strongly rumoured that Alex Rodriguez was the person who recruited Melky Cabrera to be a client for the BioGenesis clinic.

Melky could still have a good season with the Jays next year if his legs are healed. He'd been playing with a bad hamstring all season long & now is out with a sprained meniscus in his knee. He was a very good hitter when he was healthy, but his bad legs eventually got the best of him & he was hurting the team more than he helped them, which is why he was finally put on the DL.

And finally, i suspect every single successful Dominican player of having used PED's. This includes the likes of Ortiz, Bautista & Encarnacion, among dozens of others. I also strongly suspect Derek Jeter & Johnny Damon of having used PED's over their career. It wouldn't surprise me to learn years from now that Mariano Rivera had also used PED's at one time. Someone pitching the way he does at his age is nearly impossible.

I actually believe that up to 40% of major leaguers use something illegal. I'd even be willing to bet that A-Rod is still using PED's. However, MLB's testing is such a joke that they can barely catch anyone! Instead, it has to go on witch hunts and make deals with a bunch of criminals in order to nab players they suspect on circumstantial evidence. Heck, what they accuse A-Rod of doing (on top of suspected PED use) is exactly what they've been doing themselves!

p.s. Why are PED's such a big deal in MLB as compared to other pro sports such as the NFL, NHL, NBA, soccer & Pro Golf? I'd be willing to bet that more people in those respective sports are PED's users as compared to MLB.
 

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p.s.Who the hell cares whether or NOT PED's are used in other sports. This is a baseball thread. He who uses PED's is a CHEAT.
 

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I don't know if this is true or not but somebody told me that the hard hitting Yankees were the hottest team in baseball right now.

And the gritty Jason Nix is raising pride and guts standards to previously unseen levels for a utility player. He makes the Luis Sojos and Miguel Cairos beam with pride.
 
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I don't know if this is true or not but somebody told me that the hard hitting Yankees are the hottest team in baseball right now.
Whoever told you this, Joe, has his head either buried in the sand or fully up his ass. The Dodgers right now are the hottest team since the 1984 Tigers.

And the gritty Jason Nix is raising pride and guts standards to previously unseen levels for a utility player. He makes the Luis Sojos Miguel Cairos beam with pride.
Pride and guts notwithstanding, a .596 OPS sucks, even for a utility player. The real question is what is this character doing in the big leagues.
 

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Right you would be my friend, 3 in a row and 8-2 last 10 and playing pretty dang good baseball now that they are getting healthier. Hung around all season with a depleted roster and it was only a matter of time once they got some bats back for them to go on a run. But taking 2 out of 3 against the red sox does not really say much as the red sox free fall is only a cpl weeks away. Oh how we love September, BOYZ! :D

I don't know if this is true or not but somebody told me that the hard hitting Yankees are the hottest team in baseball right now.
 

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p.s.Who the hell cares whether or NOT PED's are used in other sports. This is a baseball thread. He who uses PED's is a CHEAT.

Fair. But how do you describe a player who needs to take a couple of Red Bulls before and during a game? What about a player who decides to have LASIK surgery to see better? What about another who might decide to take a couple of sudafeds in other to feel more awake prior to a game? What about a player who might take a couple of shots of whisky prior to a game in order to relax?

Why were players who took PEDS in the 90's and early 2000's not called cheats until now? What about players such as Ricky Henderson, Lenny "Nails" Dykstra, Jeff Bagwell, Brad Fullmer, Brian "The Incredible Hulk" Downing & countless others? Were they also cheats or do they get a pass just because PED's were not illegal back then and actually saved baseball??

What about 99% of the current players on PED's who get a free pass just because they didn't test positive and/or weren't caused in a sting set-up by the commissionary in cahoots with a bunch of criminals who cooperated only because they wanted to save their own asses??

Just saying.....
 

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As crazy as this may sound, i now think the Yankees actually have a chance of catching up to the Red Sox.

But it'll all depend if history repeats itself and the Red Sox once again totally collapse come September.
 

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But it'll all depend if history repeats itself and the Red Sox once again totally collapse come September.
After all, it did happen once, therefore it just might happen again. You know, Doc, you're too smart to be spouting this bullshit. I expect this moronic gibberish from Curly, Larry and Moe, but you, my friend, are better than this.
 
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