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Taylor Hall had quite the series at the World's

It's time he went somewhere else, eh Sol ?

I was watching the game yesterday and couldn't believe how much Canada demolished Russia. The Russians had a full lineup, meaning all their stars were playing. Canada had a heck of a team...possibly the best team assembled at this tournament. But many players on that roster wouldn't be on a World's Cup or Olympic team. Team Canada was without the likes of PK Subban, Carey Price, Steven Stamkos, Jonathan Toews, Duncan Keith, Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaff, Drew Doughty, John Tavares, Shea Webber & others. Yet, they still managed to win every game and most of them easily.

Players such as Taylor Hall, Claude Giroux, Tyler Seguin, Brent Burns & Jason Spezza had a great tournament. But they'd have a hard time cracking the regular Team Canada roster. Others on the current team (e.g. Tyler Ennis, Patrick Wiercioch, Tyson Barrie, David Savard, Martin Jones, etc) wouldn't have a chance.
 

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Taylor Hall had quite the series at the World's

It's time he went somewhere else, eh Sol ?

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In the past I have never been a Hall fan, too many injuries and from what I hear in Edmonton is that is can be a dick in public. Maybe the McDavid pick lit a free under his ass for the spark he had on the recent series. He is good but I would still see what I could get for him in a trade as the Oilers really need a goalie and solid defense. I would put Hopkins out there also if the return was good. Near the trade deadline there were newspaper stories about Hall Hopkins and/or Eberle being traded and the only one who stated that he wanted to stay was Eberle. The Oilers have offense and almost zero defense and to get calibre players you need to give up a top player or 2.
 

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why judging a coach on only one year?therrien took his team to a second place in in 2012-2013, 100 points season in 2013-2104,110 points in 2014-2015 he is not perfect but did a very good job.Babcock excellent coach but not for montreal very few team will give a french canadian coach a first chance to coach in the nhl the blues did the rangers, tampa bay who else?
 

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In the past I have never been a Hall fan, too many injuries and from what I hear in Edmonton is that is can be a dick in public.

A few weeks ago a former Oilers player told me that the first one he'd trade would be Taylor Hall. According to him, Hall has several 'off-ice' issues which he refused to elaborate on and he was fairly confident Oilers management were aware of those 'issues' and would likely be trying to unload him during the offseason. He told me this prior to Peter Chiarelli's hiring. So now that Peter Chiarelli is in charge & we remember how he handled the Tyler Seguin situation, i wouldn't be surprised if Taylor Hall was the first one to be traded out of Edmonton.

If it was up to me, Nail Yakupov would be another candidate to be traded. He's a devout muslim and would be better off practicing his fate in a larger city with an established muslim community.

I'd hang on to Jordan Eberle if i were the Oilers. I've never heard of off-ice issues with him & he's a leader. He's the type of player you want on your rebuilding franchise.
 

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Last night i was chatting with one of my NHL sources. He told me he's 95% certain that Todd McLellan will be the next Oilers coach. Edmonton would have liked to also interview Mike Babcock, but realized it would be a waste of time & they didn't feel like waiting until Babcock made up his mind about his future. McLellan also didn't feel like waiting for the messiah to make up his mind, so his hiring will likely be announced once he returns from Prague......unless there are late developments which might alter their course.

From what i was told, Babcock was extremely surprised at the supposed lack of interest in hiring him. No doubt his rumoured extravagant contract demands discouraged a lot of other teams from even trying to interview him. It's also quite possible that many potential teams didn't want to compensate Detroit if they hired him prior to June 30th, which is the date on which Babcock's contract ends.

I've learned that only two teams showed their full interest in hiring Babcock: Buffalo and Toronto. Detroit has always indicated that they'd be willing to re-hire him if the $$ were right. But Babcock might have also been looking for a change. He put his house up for sale a few months ago and everything indicated he'd be coaching elsewhere. But he may have overpriced himself out of the market & now it wouldn't totally surprise me if he didn't re-sign with his old team with a considerable raise.

He's currently on his way back from Prague and it's expected he'll make up his mind later this week.
 

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why judging a coach on only one year?therrien took his team to a second place in in 2012-2013, 100 points season in 2013-2104,110 points in 2014-2015 he is not perfect but did a very good job.Babcock excellent coach but not for montreal very few team will give a french canadian coach a first chance to coach in the nhl the blues did the rangers, tampa bay who else?
Therrien took an ordinary team two great season like he did with Pitsburgh ! Got fired and the team still got the cup that year .... Why , was he too much on defense to the liking of Crosby / Lemieux?
And yes we give a lot of chances to French coach who went to win the cup and have success with other teams ! It's also time to change that also and bring new ideas!
Babcock is able to balance better offense and defense in is team , he can find more taught solution than having a lucky hand when switching players on the go !
We still need center no 1 that I think is a greater priority!!!
 

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I have no problem with the habs preferring to have a fluent french-speaking coach. That way, the habs coach can address both the french and english media in their respective languages. The most recent unilingual coach they gave the job to was Randy Cunneyworth, and he was raked over the coals by both the french media and the majority of french-speaking fans because he couldn't speak fluent french. The team owner himself took out a full-page add in Le Journal de Montreal to apologize to the fans for this and promised them a french-speaking coach by the following season, which turned out to be Michel Therrien.

It may be unfair, but language will always remain an issue on the Montreal Canadiens and in the province of Quebec.

Over the past dozen years, the habs have had french-speaking coaches who went on to very good things after being fired by the Habs: Alain Vigneault, Pat Burns, Jacques Lemaire, Claude Julien and even Michel Therrien, who is on his second-stint with the habs. And i'm sure Guy Carbonneau could have found success elsewhere had he been able to find another NHL coaching job once he was fired by the habs. And let's not forget that former Tampa coach Guy Boucher started his pro career coaching the farm team in Hamilton. And the last two habs coaches to win a Stanley Cup were french canadian: Jean Perron and Jacques Demers.
 

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Latest Babcock rumour circulating.....

He's approached the San Jose Sharks and asked them for an interview.

This isn't surprising considering he expected more interest from teams looking for coaches. But one of the problems is that everyone knows he wants and expects to be the league's top-paid coach next season.

But i've also heard from more than one insider that the Sharks aren't drowning in money & there's no way they'd be willing to make Babcock the league's highest-paid coach. Especially considering that the one they've had for years (Todd McLellan) is highly respected around the league for his coaching abilities and many teams have privately stated they'd prefer him over Babcock. McLellan was fired by Doug Wilson following the end of the regular season. Several insiders have told me that many believe Wilson was the problem & should have been fired instead of McLellan.

As i've mentionned earlier, McLellan is expected to be named the new Edmonton Oilers coach in the very near future. My guess is that he'll feel more comfortable coaching in the Western Conference.
 

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Latest Babcock rumour circulating.....

He's approached the San Jose Sharks and asked them for an interview.

This isn't surprising considering he expected more interest from teams looking for coaches. But one of the problems is that everyone knows he wants and expects to be the league's top-paid coach next season.

But i've also heard from more than one insider that the Sharks aren't drowning in money & there's no way they'd be willing to make Babcock the league's highest-paid coach. Especially considering that the one they've had for years (Todd McLellan) is highly respected around the league for his coaching abilities and many teams have privately stated they'd prefer him over Babcock. McLellan was fired by Doug Wilson following the end of the regular season. Several insiders have told me that many believe Wilson was the problem & should have been fired instead of McLellan.

As i've mentionned earlier, McLellan is expected to be named the new Edmonton Oilers coach in the very near future. My guess is that he'll feel more comfortable coaching in the Western Conference.


Your post makes absolutely no sense !!:confused:

The Sharks not willing to make Babcock the highest paid coach because they had McLellan, a highly respected coach. :confused:

.....many teams have PRIVATELY stated they'd prefer him over Babcock. (You made this up) really:thumb:

By the way, McLellan has been coaching in the 'western conference' with the Sharks, so why would he be comfortable coaching

in the western conference if he already hasn't left yet.:confused:

I can see you have soared on Mike Babcock, seeing he has no interest in your team, the leafs
 

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I read yesterday that Babcock will announce in a few days which team he'll be signing (or re-signing) with. Those teams are Buffalo, Toronto and Detroit. Toronto & Buffalo are the only teams who have applied to hire Babcock & have agreed to compensating the Red Wings if they hire him prior to June 30th. Word is that the Babcock camp has announced a decision would likely be made by Wednesday.

My guess is that Babcock has a fairly good idea which city he wants to move his family to and is fully aware that he's keeping other coaches in limbo. Everyone is waiting for him to make up his mind in order to sign & at which price. It's expected Babcock will become the league's highest paid coach and it will cause other coaches' salaries to increase. Expect Todd McLellan to sign as soon as Babcock makes his announcement. Many expect McLellan to sign with Edmonton. It's been rumoured that Terry Pegula (Buffalo Sabres) has made Babcock an incredible offer. Babcock has met with the Sabres & the Leafs. The Leafs offer is also expected to be considerable, but i'm expecting Buffalo to outbid anyone else.

If the Leafs don't land Babcock, they'd like McLellan. But i'm hearing that Guy Boucher (formerly of TB) will be named as the Leafs' coach should both of the coaches mentionned sign somewhere else. Current TB assistant GM Julien Brisebois's name has been rumoured as having been seriously considered for the Leafs' GM job, among other candidates. The Leafs will also interview current Sault Greyhounds coach Sheldon Keefe for a coaching position within their organization.

p.s. No word on Boston. My guess is that they're waiting to hire a GM in order to see if he'll want to retain Claude Julien as his coach or fire him. And i can confirm that Marc Bergevin will NOT fire Michel Therrien even if they can land Mike Babcock.

There are too many illogical and meaningless statements by you that I do not have the time to point out but here is just one

Quote....And( I love this ) I CAN CONFIRM that Marc Bergen will NOT fire Michel Therrien even if they can land Mike Babcock.

For one, if they have no interest in firing Therrien, what does landing Babcock have to do with NOT firing Therrien.

Still pissed that Babcock has no interest in coaching the dysfunctional leafs.
 

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My inside source told me last night that St-Louis is now showing interest in Babcock. Current coach Ken Hitchcock's contract is also up at the end of June and the Blues may not re-sign him should Babcock show interest in coaching them.

But the big stumbling block once again is the contractual demands requested by Babcock. Not only does he wish to become the highest-paid coach in the league, but he also wants control over player movement. Most general managers aren't so willing to give their coach that much authority. St-Louis is another team that isn't exactly swimming in money, so i doubt (like the Sharks) they'd be willing to make Babcock the highest-paid coach in the league. Only a few teams are willing & have the money to do this, among them Buffalo and Toronto.

The problem with the lack of suitors for Babcock is that many GMs have realized that he may not be as good as they thought, considering it's been ages since he's taken the Red Wings past the first round of the playoffs. If you compare both coaches' records over the past few seasons, Ken Hitchcock could be considered a much better coach than Babcock. GMs have also realized that any coach with a lineup of premium players would have won the gold medal at the Sochi Olympics. I'm confidant to say that had i been chosen to lead Team Canada at those Olympics. i would have won a gold medal. I also would have played P.K. Subban instead of having him rot in the press box. Chris Kunitz would have taken a seat.

I also don't get why some habs fans (and some in the anglo Mtl media) would prefer Mike Babcock over current coach Michel Therrien. I mean, do they honestly think that Babcock would have made much of a difference considering Therrien got them 110 points? They're dreaming!!

Babcock will likely make his choice by tomorrow according to three of my sources. I told them that it wouldn't surprise me if Babcock signed for considerably less than he expected to. If i'm correct, he won't be heading to either Buffalo or Toronto. I also can't see him moving his family to the Buffalo area, which in my opinion sucks. Okay, not as much as Detroit, but Buffalo still sucks.

And let me state it here: I don't believe that at this current time Babcock is the right fit for the Toronto Maple Leafs. He'd be better off moving to St-Louis or San Jose, even if it means accepting less money than offered elsewhere. I won't be disappointed if the Leafs do hire Babcock, but i also won't be disappointed if he doesn't wind up there since they'll overpay for him and he may not be the right fit.

On another note, two of Patrick Roy's top assistants resigned from their assistant coaches positions yesterday. Andre Tourigny, who is close to Roy and was handpicked by him to join him in Colorado, may very land in Ottawa as one of Dave Cameron's assistants. He'd be replacing the late Mark Reeds, who passed away from cancer. I can't wait to hear the real story of what happened in Colorado to cause the two assistants to hand in their resignations.
 

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In the Edmonton paper this morning, Todd Mclellan will be named head coach of the Oilers.
 

Doc Holliday

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the kockey world was talking about it for a week now .Doc you should ad rds as one of your source it was on their site 2 days ago about babcock announcement tomorrow

I was speculating about it even before RDS got word of it. Who knows, maybe RDS is a merb follower and that's where they got their info on both McLellan and Babcock.

Latest rumour has Babcock chosing between Buffalo and Detroit. If he goes to Buffalo, it's strictly for the money. Who the hell would want to move his family to Buffalo, of all places? If he goes back to Detroit, it's sentimental reasons. But again....who the hell would want to live in Detroit?? :confused:
 

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The most sought after coach since Scotty Bowman left Montreal in 79 is considering Detroit and Buffalo but not at all entertaining the possibility of going to Toronto. :confused:

I guess Babcock must have the same agent as Josh Gorges. :lol:
 
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