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It is legal soon to smoke marijuana and sell your baby in Canada. Some feminists are for the right to sell a baby https://lactualite.com/actualites/2...appuis-liberaux-au-projet-de-loi-housefather/

LOL ... in 2007 bankers robbed North Americans to the tune of nearly 1 trillion dollars. Nothing was done, and they gave themselves bonuses on top of it.

That single act has probably spelled the end of North America in the long term. Our military is so weak after 17 years of constant conflict that China and Russia are like "Oh yeah? Go fuck yourselves!"

But hey, fuck that! Some infertile couple is paying some lady to have a baby for them --- oh shit! That's the problem!
 

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You think so? With the new law, it's illegal even with your grandma! When LE wants to get you, they will find a way.. A little more in trouble, little less, you're in trouble nevertheless... and they will find a way to blame and shame.

ROFL ... What are they going to do? Make it known to my non-existent wife or children? My employer? I am my employer. A fine? Oh no! See how much shits I give?

You're right about one thing, they're 'shaming laws' that's all they are. It's funny that we, a secular state, (anyone remember that???) even have a 'morals' division of the police service at all.
 

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The title is misleading.

7 clients? - You mean 7 predators.

Agree 100%. In the news today, some basketball player was caught with child porn and killed himself, good, wish all child molesters would kill themselves.
 

blkone

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Agree 100%. In the news today, some basketball player was caught with child porn and killed himself, good, wish all child molesters would kill themselves.

At the start of the year some director offed himself for the same. You don't wanna go to prison for that... :rockon:

And I think we need to change the way it's worded. It's not 'porn' at all. Most pornography is consenting adults, some paid some unpaid, but almost all of it is consensual.

'Child rape videos' is more like it.

But yeah, if these guys were on the hunt for, or agreed to raping minors - fuck'em.
 

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hey blkone, you dont have a wife or an employer and you not worried about a fine but how about five years in the slammer?
up to five yrs is what I believe is the punishment
 

blkone

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hey blkone, you dont have a wife or an employer and you not worried about a fine but how about five years in the slammer?
up to five yrs is what I believe is the punishment

I've already thought about that. It would be an almost comical error on their part.
 

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hey blkone, you dont have a wife or an employer and you not worried about a fine but how about five years in the slammer?
up to five yrs is what I believe is the punishment

Do some of you actually think that someone could get jail time? Time to get a new hobby if this scares you that much.
 

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So is Incall with a reputable agency is 100% safe given current mayor and LE environment, or still risky? How safe is it, 99%? Has anyone on MERB been busted at an incall?
 

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2. You're right, it's a much larger problem. When I was a soldier... the amount of children that were being sold for sex was sickening. It's been on a steady increase for like 25 years now.

How do you know that?
 

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So is Incall with a reputable agency is 100% safe given current mayor and LE environment, or still risky? How safe is it, 99%? Has anyone on MERB been busted at an incall?

The mayor does not dictate LE what to do with the application of the criminal law. ALL busts are about things like the subject of this thread. You're never 100% safe, mainly about the operators. If you happen to be present during a bust about a minor in an incall, though luck. Operators are not stupid however. I remember an incall busted in Québec City 8 or 9 years ago. Police got a call about a 17 y/o working there that day ( a new girl not on the regular working staff). The owner obviously did not carry proper identification and did not want to hire a minor. Know what? they waited a few hours to make sure a minimum of costumers were in there. Today, they don't even have the 210 article to make accusations.
 

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The mayor does not dictate LE what to do with the application of the criminal law. ALL busts are about things like the subject of this thread. You're never 100% safe, mainly about the operators.

You are right, the mayor does not dictate each operation, one by one. But politicians dictate priorities. There are never enough cops to chase every offender to every legislation. Police work with bureaucracy-approved enforcement priorities and assign cops to duties accordingly. Maybe in Montreal, there is enough to keep them busy with other things. But if you search around a bit, you'll see that it's different in other areas. Look at the "John's Schools" out west, happening now, where they force clients to repent and admit how hiring an escort is a sexual perversion and aggression. Get out a bit and you will see that there is no uniform application of this legislation and that it's really up to each LE body.

Now, in Montreal, I recognize that right now it's not the case and that they have focused on the right things: minors and trafficking. However, it only takes a political decision to change the enforcement priorities and the legislation opens the door to a more strict enforcement, should they want to.
 

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Good remarks, curly. There is no perfect sealing. Cities do indeed have priorities, cops have different cultural environments and provincial prosecutors are influenced by the social context. However, what I said about Montréal regarding incall busts is the same in every province. There are no arrests done without those factors: minors, pimping with coercion, public solicitation, dope or organized crime. There are of course exceptions, but they confirm the general rule. This is observed not only in Canada but also everywhere in the world, including USA, as many of our american friends like Patron can confirm, and Sweden. Of course, there used to be a lot of corruption here and corruption continues in many parts of the world, making police forces the main contributors of violence towards sex workers.

Suppose Valérie Plante who, I presume, is radically against sex work, speaks to the police chief and tells him Montréal has a new priority, getting rid of it. The police chief will inform her about the general situation, the level of criminality involved and the priority plan they already have. Yes, but I would like you to bust every single incall, including mp you can find. Well, would he respond, I can't do that. First, it would have negative consequences that neither of us would like, including for the people you want to protect. Second, the prosecutors will not take the case. Third, the justice response would be unpredictable. He would tell her that if she wants to do something on her own, she could adopt permit restrictions. Fiction. No. That is exactly what happened when Coderre tried it.
 

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True Gugu. If the bureaucrats advise a politician against doing something, they may change their mind. But I've also seen the reverse: the politician telling the bureaucrat to do it anyways because he/she thinks the bureaucrat is biased in his advice. That happened a lot in the days of Harper and in ready to bet its happening right now in Ontario with Ford. This is why they say the bureaucrat role is to give fearless advice, but to do loyal implementation.
 

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The mayor does not dictate LE what to do with the application of the criminal law. ALL busts are about things like the subject of this thread.

The police do what they are told and priorities are decided by politicians and depending on which level of government the priority falls in it can be decided at the provincial or municipal level. The law for prostitution is there but this is a case of selective enforcement. How it is enforced and to what extent are decided by the municipal government. How conservative a city is is dependent on the mayor. I see most Merbites take it for granted and think nothing will ever change and that only clients of minors and pimps are being targeted. That can change at any time depending on the mayor in power and society. That is the thing with selective enforcement it is unpredictable.
 

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Suppose Valérie Plante who, I presume, is radically against sex work, speaks to the police chief and tells him Montréal has a new priority, getting rid of it.

So far Plante has not spoken anything about sex work, she seems concerned with other things. Coderre was the big one against prostitution he wanted to turn the city into a church family city. Montreal no longer has a red light district. There was also a period of great unrest within the stripclubs during when Coderre was in power as the city shut down two clubs. Clubs was enforcing no grind rules, clubs put signs stating how dances are non contact which was all a charade LE so they do not get shut down. There was a 2011 Marceau decision that deemed lap dancing as illegal and a form of prostitution. The supreme court did not over turn that provincial ruling. Since Plante I see now stability among the clubs. I did notice since Bill C-36 how motels have reduced the amount of four hour rooms in the evening and night time and most probably to discourage escorts. One motel has a new policy now to not give out any four hour rooms after 11pm.
 
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