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jalimon

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haha good one... This looks like a set up ...

Anyhow even if I cannot blare Andrew Scheer at all I do have good trust in Conservative party. They are much more centered the what people tend to think. No comparison to the party lead by the Trumpet down south.
 

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I think that in a way they got lucky with Bernier. He has sort of made himself the magnet for the crazy trumpist types. The conservatives are still pretty terrible, but it seems they dodged the bullet that would have made them susceptible to being just the party of white resentment.
 

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WTF.. Trudeau is the worst PM Canada has had and yes Scheer is not great but far better that the POS who is destroying Canada.
 

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Trudeau's lousy but far from the worst Canada has ever had. He's nowhere near destroying Canada.

Scheer is deeply unimpressive but he will have a chance to prove himself over the campaign. We will see what policies he proposes.
 

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"Get the Fuckkkkkk OFFFFFF, Go Hommeeee" as the PC campaign

Triggered..... This made my day, I thank you.

PS. I do not have Twitter, do not have time to waste so never seen the video...
 

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^^^^^^^ Yes, I waste time on MERB, I do not have extra time for, Twitter, Snapchat and whatever else is out there.
See the shirt clip, with all the fake shit out there who really cares, simpletons I guess.
 

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Your inner child is showing. You are one of those who like Trudeaus looks over substance. Nice hair but fuck all under it. Post what good Trudeau has done for Canada.....
 

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I doubt anything I would list you would view as good.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Ah, throw caution into the wind and give it a shot. Otherwise it is a moot post.
 

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OK.

As half-assed as most of his stuff has been, I think some of the climate moves have been good and he even has pushed the debate to the point where the Conservatives have stopped pretending it doesn't exist.

Some of the pay equity stuff is good.

The independent senators, while not as good as a real reform of the institution, is generally a good thing.

Trade has been mixed at best.

Legalizing marijuana is a net positive, even if the overall roll out was pretty botched.

No recession and generally good growth since 2015.

I'm far from a Trudeau fan. He's been mediocre, bordering on acceptable in policy. In personal integrity he's a little shit. So if someone can make a good pitch to replace him, I'm all ears. Unfortunately the NDP is a mess right now and the Greens are still a fringe even if they might jump up in stature this year. The Cons need to earn their spot to get back in, and they haven't been all that impressive so far.

Trashing Trudeau's personal ethics is fine for what it is, but they still need to offer something better as an alternative.
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Fair enough, but what has Trudeau done to keep the economy going? Business is leaving, known fact.
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&sour...aw1U0LWDSLwX-G_Tif0gjCnz&ust=1567383948370911
We are doing OK but could be booming. If anything Trudeau held us back somewhat, just my opinion.
Climate change, Canada is neither the problem nor the solution when it comes to climate change, the carbon tax is a money grab that does zero to reduce climate change but it does cause people to have less to spend.
Pay equality, there is a law and always has been for equal pay at same jobs within the same company. In general women ( can we still say women ? ) have lower paying jobs as they go into fields as nursing or teaching instead of higher paying engineering jobs.

Again, This also led to the federal governmentpassing*the following three*acts: the*Canada Fair*Employment Practices*Act*of 1953, which applied to the civil service; the Female Employees*Equal Pay Act*of 1956, which made*wage*discrimination based on sex against the law; and.Oct 25, 2017 my opinion.
And pot, the people I know will not buy there, too expensive and low quality, but it got him elected.
His lies and arrogance should be enough to turn voters away.8
 

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Fair enough, but what has Trudeau done to keep the economy going? Business is leaving, known fact.
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&sour...aw1U0LWDSLwX-G_Tif0gjCnz&ust=1567383948370911

Ambiguous fact. FDI has been going up again recently.
https://business.financialpost.com/...ment-in-canada-hits-its-highest-in-four-years

As with most Trudeau stuff, it seems a mixed bag.

We are doing OK but could be booming. If anything Trudeau held us back somewhat, just my opinion.

You may be right, but I don't see a lot from any of the other parties that looks like it would lead to better.

Climate change, Canada is neither the problem nor the solution when it comes to climate change, the carbon tax is a money grab that does zero to reduce climate change but it does cause people to have less to spend.

The carbon tax needs to be handled in a way that is less regressive, but also it can't just live on its own. I think most economic analysis shows that the overall impact on GDP is pretty low, but the whole point of something like that is to move and direct funds to accomplish stuff. I think Trudeau and company have just made it a kind of fetish - "see! we are doing something" and that hasn't helped.

Pay equality, there is a law and always has been for equal pay at same jobs within the same company. In general women ( can we still say women ? ) have lower paying jobs as they go into fields as nursing or teaching instead of higher paying engineering jobs.

It's not as simple as choosing different jobs. (I get annoyed with the "77 cents on the dollar" thing as an oversimiplification, but the argument that it is all free choice also has no merit.) But the main shift was moving it to proactive as opposed to reactive. That's a good step, even if (as you say) that the rule was that there was supposed to be equal pay anyway. It is a lot fairer if you don't have to chase down your company and prove there was a problem after the fact.

And pot, the people I know will not buy there, too expensive and low quality, but it got him elected.
His lies and arrogance should be enough to turn voters away.8

I think the pot thing (handled badly) was mostly because if he broke or failed one more big issue promise he wouldn't have a chance.

I think his lies and arrogance HAVE turned lots of voters away. Look at his numbers vs when he was elected. The question is where do those people go? If the conservatives come off as the party of Ford, they aren't going to pick up a lot of those people. If they come across as sober-minded people with a better way they might. The social issue stuff is a bit of a crap shoot. I don't think they get as much benefit out of social resentment as the GOP does down south, and they also have to compete with the PPC, who do that schtick better. (Of course, it might work out that if the PPC goes over the top with that, the Cons can be the "we aren't THAT crazy" party and do well. I don't know.)

We will see what happens with the campaign. I'm really not certain which way things will go. I think if the Cons go all in on "Trudeau is a liar and unfit" they open themselves up for a debate on character and I don't know how well Scheer does in that fight. (The impression I have had is more people know Scheer, the less they like him.)
 

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^^^^^ Good points but... I would chose May or Singh, basically anyone over Trudeau right now. Unless Scheer blows a goat on the parliament grounds wearing a little bo peep outfit he should not lose just on Trudeaus fuckups alone.
 

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Yep! I echo the same sentiments...Anyone but Trudeau!...in one his many major fuck ups, Trudeau basically bent down and got raped by Trump! which personally I think is a good thing...lol!...however the rest of you Trudeau loving hosers are going to feel it up the ass soon!
 

Sol Tee Nutz

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Not a fan of any politician. We have Scheer, could be good for the economy but not happy with some of his policies. Green party, good way to bankrupt Canada. NDP, see Green party. Liberal, as stated, he will divide Canada and bankrupt us. Bernier, may look at him after this election. All politicians suck, need to find the one who will rob us the least.
 

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Enlighten us?

Scheer will surprise us. He needs to win quebec. Doable.

I cannot, for the life of me, believe what people see in Bernier. He is an all time opportunist. If you open that guy you will see it's empty.

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Sol Tee Nutz

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^^^^^ Could be like the US and the Conservatives are keeping quiet to not get yipped at by the left. Once the election comes they will vote for him. From the Quebecers I know they hate Trudeau.
 
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