Ask us anything part 3

[Vardhan945]

Can I be fairly confident in thinking that a popular Indy who is around 300/hr (similar to agency price) sees less clients/day than the average agency girl?

I know some of y'all are rolling your eyes at someone thinking about an SP's body count...but I like to think that I was less likely to have been the 2nd/3rd/4th client of the day for this one I used to see.
(I'd usually book a morning session and she was almost ALWAYS available at the time I requested)

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Can I be fairly confident in thinking that a popular Indy who is around 300/hr (similar to agency price) sees less clients/day than the average agency girl?

I know some of y'all are rolling your eyes at someone thinking about an SP's body count...but I like to think that I was less likely to have been the 2nd/3rd/4th client of the day for this one I used to see.
(I'd usually book a morning session and she was almost ALWAYS available at the time I requested)

I'm trying to figure out a way to answer this question patiently lol. No, you can't be confident that you won't be the 2nd or 3rd client of the day because someone is an indy. There's no way to know how high someone's volume is. It's true that a lot of providers choose to be indy because they don't want a really high volume of clients, but that's not the case for everyone.. We also can't control when clients are going to book us.

Personally, I don't like seeing more than one or two clients in a day. But once in a while, I don't have clients for a couple of days and then I get 3 legit inquiries for the same date. I'm going to see those 3 clients because I can't always predict how many bookings I'm going to have in a week.

I just think it's weird to book an escort and want to be her first client of the day at all cost unless you have hygiene concerns.. indies are probably less likely to see several clients in a row and have plenty of time to wash properly, I know if I see more than one client in a day I try to make sure I have 1 hour to clean and recuperate between the sessions.. Other than that if you want to be her only client of the day, book her for several hours!

 

[LC18]

Can I be fairly confident in thinking that a popular Indy who is around 300/hr (similar to agency price) sees less clients/day than the average agency girl?

I know some of y'all are rolling your eyes at someone thinking about an SP's body count...but I like to think that I was less likely to have been the 2nd/3rd/4th client of the day for this one I used to see.
(I'd usually book a morning session and she was almost ALWAYS available at the time I requested)

I think everyone has different volume and rates don’t always influence that.

I personally don’t find it enjoyable to see more than 2 people in a day or even more than 3-4 people a week to be honest

I think people naturally book longer dates at a certain rate because they probably have more disposable income to begin with

 

[CenterofNH]

I'm trying to figure out a way to answer this question patiently lol. No, you can't be confident that you won't be the 2nd or 3rd client of the day because someone is an indy. There's no way to know how high someone's volume is. It's true that a lot of providers choose to be indy because they don't want a really high volume of clients, but that's not the case for everyone.. We also can't control when clients are going to book us.

Personally, I don't like seeing more than one or two clients in a day. But once in a while, I don't have clients for a couple of days and then I get 3 legit inquiries for the same date. I'm going to see those 3 clients because I can't always predict how many bookings I'm going to have in a week.

I just think it's weird to book an escort and want to be her first client of the day at all cost unless you have hygiene concerns.. indies are probably less likely to see several clients in a row and have plenty of time to wash properly, I know if I see more than one client in a day I try to make sure I have 1 hour to clean and recuperate between the sessions.. Other than that if you want to be her only client of the day, book her for several hours!

Could it be a Star Trek thing? "To boldly go where no man has gone before"?

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Thanks for the response.
I would imagine if youre doing your own scheduling in your own building it's difficult to organize as many clients in 1 day as a booker could.

Edit: to piggyback off this question, if a sp has a TON of good reviews, that also doesnt necessarily mean shes high volume ? less popular SPs might have clients who book more but dont review

It's not about organizing the schedule, it's more that it can be unpredictable, particularly during the slow season, and we take what we can get.

I don't know how many reviews is A LOT. I have seen review threads that are like 15 pages or more.. To me when someone has that many reviews it just reveals that their client base is very active on Merb, and from what I've noticed, that type of client has certain booking habits.. they are looking for a specific type of experience, will usually pay agency rates or lower, or they book specials & look for discounts, they book hour long sessions or half hours, etc. Reviewing habits are different from a client base to another as well and you can tell in how the reviews are written. Some clients will write a review to encourage the SP and signal that they like her and what she has to offer, but some are doing it to ''participate in review culture'' which seems to be a bigger motivator.

I don't think it necessarily means she's high volume, but if I think about my personal experience.. since my last review I've seen many new clients who did not review and sometimes over a month will pass before I get a new comment on my review thread and that doesn't mean business was slow.

 

[Vardhan945]

It's not about organizing the schedule, it's more that it can be unpredictable, particularly during the slow season, and we take what we can get.

I don't know how many reviews is A LOT. I have seen review threads that are like 15 pages or more.. To me when someone has that many reviews it just reveals that their client base is very active on Merb, and from what I've noticed, that type of client has certain booking habits.. they are looking for a specific type of experience, will usually pay agency rates or lower, or they book specials & look for discounts, they book hour long sessions or half hours, etc. Reviewing habits are different from a client base to another as well and you can tell in how the reviews are written. Some clients will write a review to encourage the SP and signal that they like her and what she has to offer, but some are doing it to ''participate in review culture'' which seems to be a bigger motivator.

I don't think it necessarily means she's high volume, but if I think about my personal experience.. since my last review I've seen many new clients who did not review and sometimes over a month will pass before I get a new comment on my review thread and that doesn't mean business was slow.

"Reviewing habits are different from a client base to another as well and you can tell in how the reviews are written. Some clients will write a review to encourage the SP and signal that they like her and what she has to offer, but some are doing it to ''participate in review culture'' which seems to be a bigger motivator."

Well said. This is what I was thinking but couldnt articulate well. Youre a good writer lol

 

[Lunaseraphim]

"Reviewing habits are different from a client base to another as well and you can tell in how the reviews are written. Some clients will write a review to encourage the SP and signal that they like her and what she has to offer, but some are doing it to ''participate in review culture'' which seems to be a bigger motivator."

Well said. This is what I was thinking but couldnt articulate well. Youre a good writer lol

I'm a writer literally

But yeah to sum it up.. if I wanted to be super high volume, I'd curate my branding (including rates) to appeal only or mostly to ''very active and typical Merb users'' because they are, whether we like it or not, a reliable client base..

By the way everything i'm saying is super neutral, there is no judgement behind it. We all make different choices for our business and personal well being and we all know what works at the end of the day

 

[urquell]

whether we like it or not

hmmmm.....

 

[Lunaseraphim]

hmmmm.....

Hey, don't read too much into what I wrote

 

[Erosboy]

i find my sexual interests have evolved over the decades I've been doing this. I'm more into kinks and fetishes now. I have been lucky to develop many friendships with many women who I've been with multiple times and I sometimes feel embarrassed to mention to those ladies that i want to explore new things. With some of them I don't bother because I've come to learn their boundaries very well, but some are open to exploring, but even with those ladies I don't really know how to approach asking whether they would provide certain services. And it's not just embarrassment, it's a sense of not wanting the lady to think I'm some kind of perverted weirdo. Any advice?

 

[Lunaseraphim]

i find my sexual interests have evolved over the decades I've been doing this. I'm more into kinks and fetishes now. I have been lucky to develop many friendships with many women who I've been with multiple times and I sometimes feel embarrassed to mention to those ladies that i want to explore new things. With some of them I don't bother because I've come to learn their boundaries very well, but some are open to exploring, but even with those ladies I don't really know how to approach asking whether they would provide certain services. And it's not just embarrassment, it's a sense of not wanting the lady to think I'm some kind of perverted weirdo. Any advice?

For me this is very vague and it really depends what the kinks and fetishes are. A lot of providers are knowledgeable about those.. I think your best bet is to open the conversation with women who are open to exploring, or seeking women who are more well versed in kinks. More and more I cater to kinks and fetishes personally and I find them fascinating, but there are certain things that are off limits for me. I do very well with men who have kinks that are more on the worship and submissive side, but I am not into certain types of roleplay and kinks that would turn me into the submissive or make me feel degraded. (once again that is subjective)

 

[Enjoying life]

For me this is very vague and it really depends what the kinks and fetishes are. A lot of providers are knowledgeable about those.. I think your best bet is to open the conversation with women who are open to exploring, or seeking women who are more well versed in kinks. More and more I cater to kinks and fetishes personally and I find them fascinating, but there are certain things that are off limits for me. I do very well with men who have kinks that are more on the worship and submissive side, but I am not into certain types of roleplay and kinks that would turn me into the submissive or make me feel degraded. (once again that is subjective)

Yes an sp can satisfy many kinks that a vanilla partner may not dare as it’s so liberating and you feel like all your stress is coming out shamelessly !

 

[LC18]

i find my sexual interests have evolved over the decades I've been doing this. I'm more into kinks and fetishes now. I have been lucky to develop many friendships with many women who I've been with multiple times and I sometimes feel embarrassed to mention to those ladies that i want to explore new things. With some of them I don't bother because I've come to learn their boundaries very well, but some are open to exploring, but even with those ladies I don't really know how to approach asking whether they would provide certain services. And it's not just embarrassment, it's a sense of not wanting the lady to think I'm some kind of perverted weirdo. Any advice?

I have some clients that were unable to discuss it in person so they texted me and the next time I could just make it happen without having an uncomfortable talk about it

 

[Rebaynia]

i find my sexual interests have evolved over the decades I've been doing this. I'm more into kinks and fetishes now. I have been lucky to develop many friendships with many women who I've been with multiple times and I sometimes feel embarrassed to mention to those ladies that i want to explore new things. With some of them I don't bother because I've come to learn their boundaries very well, but some are open to exploring, but even with those ladies I don't really know how to approach asking whether they would provide certain services. And it's not just embarrassment, it's a sense of not wanting the lady to think I'm some kind of perverted weirdo. Any advice?

I ask for the kink conversation in text, before meeting while finding out what they like and are into. I want to know what someone is looking for before agreeing to set up an appointment. I want to be sure we are compatible before meeting to avoid disappointment on their part.

Kink is even mentioned, in passing but to catch the attention of those looking for it, in my clipboard opener post I try to remember to share with everyone in our first few messages, to make it easier to bring up the topic without makeing it uncomfortable for them to ask. I want to encourage open communication from the start of contact.
I personally struggle with boundary talk, face to face or in the moment, not likeing deviation from what I am expecting, so I do the kink interview in writing, so I always have it to fall back on in the future. Without the written kink conversation, I will block any barriers that fall under my kink terms. (Like Doms, who try to dom, while not being approved for the kink, will be put in their place by my dominant/brat side. I will set my barriers without the need for words.)
In true form, the kink scene respects boundaries and contracts, our messages become that contract before we meet for the scene. Boundaries stated, mutual expectations met. I vet my kink expieriences.

Those open to explorative options will have it stated in their marketing. Just look for mentioning. If it isn't mentioned it isn't offered, but it doesn't hurt to ask if they offer extras.
Sometimes it is being offered threw a different marketing persona too. Some may even offer, but not provide a menu of what they offer, because kink is often a YMMV situation. We don't want to have to offer everything to everyone.

 

[LeDodo]

I have some clients that were unable to discuss it in person so they texted me and the next time I could just make it happen without having an uncomfortable talk about it

I personally struggle with boundary talk, face to face or in the moment, not likeing deviation from what I am expecting, so I do the kink interview in writing, so I always have it to fall back on in the future.

It's a very good point.

Sometimes or even most of the time, talking about it sounds weird or even creepy so by text or email helps a lot to verbalize it.

 

[LC18]

It's a very good point.

Sometimes or even most of the time, talking about it sounds weird or even creepy so by text or email helps a lot to verbalize it.

I totally understand it because I’m a bit shy too and there are some kinks that are very hard to explain in person. I also wouldn’t want to see the person’s reaction when I tell them about my kinks, it’s better if they can have the reaction they want, away from me

 

[LeDodo]

I totally understand it because I’m a bit shy too and there are some kinks that are very hard to explain in person. I also wouldn’t want to see the person’s reaction when I tell them about my kinks, it’s better if they can have the reaction they want, away from me

When I explain my kink:

 

[Enjoying life]

That is very true since I became a SP I started becoming a lot more knowledgeable when it comes to kink. It's just important to figure it out with the SP. Since I posted my comment yesterday, I thought about it a lot and I realized that with a client that I have good chemistry with and that I trust, I may be way more open to exploring certain things, and I have been in the past.

Like Rebaynia said, sometimes men think they can be ''dommes'' but they are not really practicing kink or well versed in it. Hence my apprehension when it comes to certain things. It also depends on my mood for me and on the context, I recently engaged in roleplay with a duo partner and it was kinda fun. The client was pleased as well. lol

No! I’ve always wanted the woman to dominate it’s just sooo hot and with such a rush! I used to bring my collar and leash to my favourite woman at a strip club! Vanilla is too ordinary and you are either kinky or not ! Listen to what’s making your heart beat fast!

 

[Oscar234567]

I know people have probably asked you this before but i was just wondering and always wanted to ask, that your first time doing this and your decision to fully commit to doing this i know you have rent to pay and bills but what made you look past the risks and not be scared. It mustve been hard mentally. And when you do get use to being an escort dont you look at men differently and doesnt it kindve changed the way you see relationships... You make like 300 to 400/hr so your fully dependent you can technically say i dont need men, my time with them is very valuable im the prize atleast thats what i think.

 

[Oscar234567]

I wanted to be one at one point because i like satisfying women but i made an ad and only men replied... Then i got married and she want to leave because canada is too cold but now im alone again and my confidence is down as well. I always think about stop going to strip clubs and stopping the hobby but its how i cope. My question to you is do you genuinely like your clients and they can take you out for fun like to laronde or something that doesnt have sex attached to it without being monetized because the client just wants to have fun and hes a regular who wants you to be open to the possibility of just having a good moment with you. Its basically like saying i pay your rent, your car, your lifestyle, do i ever get a chance to spend actual you wanna spend time with me time or is that just the arrangement and theres nothing any guy can do about it. I know answers may vary, i just want to see if going to these places like massage parlours and seeing these women if off the back im labeled as a loser etc... thats why i havent done it in a long time only strip clubs because when a stripper likes me shell just stay at my table and hang out whether the club is alive or empty just buy her one or 2 dribks to be nice. Im sorry if this was long just want to know how im seen in the eyes of an sp or mp.