Asking girls for BBFS

[Anna Bijou]

I've been troubled by the increasing number of requests I've been getting for bbfs. I always wondered if there are actually many escorts who accept. I can't even imagine why anyone would but if there are so many people requesting without any shame, does it mean that they are actually getting this frequently? It makes my head explode when I get asked for this. Recently someone took out some kind of contraceptive he described as sperm killer and he couldn't understand that I'm not worried about getting pregnant (I take care of this regardless) but that it was the risk of infections. He just didn't get it. Kind of like the guys who think as long as they don't 'put it in', rubbing their genitals on mine is safe.

I really wish we could post some information about these kinds of things.

 

[sene5hos]

Few years ago, I have been told the story behind this thread by one of ex-Euphoria SP that denounced another Euphoria SP sharing the same client (no need to ask or PM, I will not divulgate their identity, both are retired now). The client asked her for the service and replied to her after she refused that the other SP accept to provide the service to him!!!
That same story I heard it from different girls in others agencies over the year and I have no doubt this is still happening today!

Good reflection MrProfiteroles, I hope that there aren't too many agency girls who agree to give this service.

I thought this issue was more on the side of the girls who advertise themselves on AI, LL, Humpchies, A123, at relatively low prices.

These girls don't think about the consequences for themselves and their clients. We are in a time of pandemic, and we are still in a time of ITS.

And some men who have no brains ask and ask.

You have to denounce from both sides of the fence.

 

[Adaline Rose]

It is sad to see a thread like this, but yes, if clients ask about it, it is because some girls offer it. Some clients believe that because they pay us for a service, they have the right to do everything they want. Taking off a condom is rape. Constantly asking for it and making the girl feel bad about not offering it is rape. Crossing boundaries is rape. Some clients are disgusting, yes. But for them to beg for it, some other ladies out there offer it. It is not only about pregnancy, it is about STDS. Trying to rub your genitals in an unprotected way can make you can contract an STD. « I'm clean » is their answer when they ask for it. Most common STD'S aren't « showing », you can be infected without any symptoms. Pushing boundaries when the answer is « no » and the rules are clear is rape. Everytime you receive a request or someone asks for it during a session makes me uncomfortable, I will be firm and I won't be all sweet and lovely. When booking a lady, please remember, she is offering you her purest intimacy, her vulnerability, she accepts to share all of this with you, as you come to her and offer her the same thing. Sex is beautiful, sex is fun. Sex can be so overwhelming and sometimes we can't even describe how it feels. But we have to be safe. I get tested every month. Waiting for the results is always stressful. People do not understand this. And would I go through this for someone's little pleasure because they don't feel nothing with a condom? No, never. This is my health, this is my safety, this is my body, my home for the rest of my life. I do understand the risks of my job. This is why I get tested every month. This is why we are cautious, careful and we do safe practices. But please, put yourself in our shoes. It isn't easy.

I'm happy to see Euphoria and XO are taking girl's back and taking the matter in hands. Thank you for the safety of your girls and for the community. I've heard disgusting stories about certain agencies where their best clients are guys who force girls in BBFS or pushing boundaries. Where girls blacklist clients and they still keep them as clients. They are putting the girl's safety at risk for what 40$, 50$ an hour... Or they do not do nothing while knowing their girl is offering this service. She'll be one of the « top » of the agency...

We are a community. Let's all support each other, doing what we love, but by being cautious, careful and using safe practices. By respecting each other, by getting tested regularly if you are an active hobbyist/client. And SP's should also get tested on a monthly basis.

Thank you!

 

[Anna Bijou]

I really can't deal with this. It's just incomprehensible. I can't understand what the hell these disgusting people are thinking. It really gets to me because I get messages like this regularly.

Him: Restrictions?

Me: Nothing out of the ordinary. Are you wondering about something in something in particular?


Him: Yes. I’d gladly pay extra for options


Me: What are you looking for


Him: Without protection and French kissing


Me: For sex??


Him: Also anal without condom


Me (head explodes) : Bye

*block number *

I get this at least twice a week. I just don't get it.

 

[EagerBeaver]

He wanted unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse?

 

[GreyPilgrim]

I get this at least twice a week. I just don't get it.

Would I be right in assuming this is strictly coming from new/inexperienced clients?

I mean... I’ve obviously never been on your side of the fence, but it’s pretty hard to imagine a scenario where an established merbite would randomly drop that kind of request to a SP!!!

Don’t get me wrong: I don’t think there‘s ANY scenario where BBFS inadvertently becomes a reasonable request! But I’d be more inclined to believe a story where either:
#1. The request comes from a clueless noob (and complete f’ing moron) or...
#2. The request comes from some asshole veteran trying to pressure a new girl into it mid-session (his word against hers)...

Asking by text just seems so utterly stupid. You instantly flag yourself as a threat to the girls and the hobby AND you leave clear and obvious visual proof! Way to go!

 

[Anna Bijou]

A lot of clients are not merbites. Some of these requests could be bullshit but I'm assuming that these people who absolutely want BBFS don't want to waste their time and money meeting a lady who is probably going to say no way if they ask in person.

The most disappointing scenario, though, is a regular or someone I've already met and liked, asking after a few sessions.

With all the sketchy ads on humpchies, it's possible that they eventually do find someone desperate enough or high enough to accept? I really don't know what to think.

I've had the same person periodically text me the same message explaining and requesting regular meetings with BBFS. The first time I was polite and took the time to explain to him why it was crazy to even ask. He got super offended and started insulting me, telling me I was a terrible and selfish person for refusing. Lol I've received similar versions of the same message from him a few times and simply ignore them. But I'm encouraged by the fact that he still writes a it probably means that he hasn't found anyone crazy enough to go along with it.

I had a very polite request recently from a seemingly normal man who explained that he no longer had sex with his wife and was looking for someone. He said he preferred it "natural". Bye.

Would I be right in assuming this is strictly coming from new/inexperienced clients?

I mean... I’ve obviously never been on your side of the fence, but it’s pretty hard to imagine a scenario where an established merbite would randomly drop that kind of request to a SP!!!

Don’t get me wrong: I don’t think there‘s ANY scenario where BBFS inadvertently becomes a reasonable request! But I’d be more inclined to believe a story where either:
#1. The request comes from a clueless noob (and complete f’ing moron) or...
#2. The request comes from some asshole veteran trying to pressure a new girl into it mid-session (his word against hers)...

Asking by text just seems so utterly stupid. You instantly flag yourself as a threat to the girls and the hobby AND you leave clear and obvious visual proof! Way to go!

 

[GreyPilgrim]

He said he preferred it "natural".

Spoiler alert: every single one of us does! It feels better. That’s just a simple fact. I mean it’s probably the single biggest sexual perk of being in a steady, exclusive relationship!

But to ask / expect it from a SP is... alarming at best.

 

[sene5hos]

The last post was on June 18, 2021. I am updating it because this thread will still be relevant.

Indeed the last merbite to be banned for this reason was last Tuesday.

Be careful and using safe practices. And I think once a month would be a very good practice to get tested for venerial diseases.

 

[Cap'tain Fantastic]

Be careful and using safe practices. And I think once a month would be a very good practice to get tested for venerial diseases.

It's called STI nowaday! Sexually transmited infections or STD, sexually transmitted didease. "Venerial disease" only points out to your age!

 

[chinavibez]

The last post was on June 18, 2021. I am updating it because this thread will still be relevant.

Indeed the last merbite to be banned for this reason was last Tuesday.

Be careful and using safe practices. And I think once a month would be a very good practice to get tested for venerial diseases.

Isn’t monthly excessive? I’ve always held to a 3 month period

 

[sene5hos]

It's called STI nowaday! Sexually transmited infections or STD, sexually transmitted didease. "Venerial disease" only points out to your age!

Yes it's true.
In french: ITSS infections transmissibles sexuellement et par le sang.

 

[sene5hos]

Isn’t monthly excessive? I’ve always held to a 3 month period

I think in 3 month, it's too long.

Once a month would be a very good period.

 

[MrProfiteroles]

I think in 3 month, it's too long.

Once a month would be a very good period.

Go ask your doctor.
Whitin 3 months for the Joe is good enough except if your a wealthy gentleman that book SP multiple times within the week!

 

[MrProfiteroles]

The last post was on June 18, 2021. I am updating it because this thread will still be relevant.

Indeed the last merbite to be banned for this reason was last Tuesday.

Be careful and using safe practices. And I think once a month would be a very good practice to get tested for venerial diseases.

Yes, unfortunately there are still stupid and irresponsible people ( clients and SPs ) that think they are invulnerable or just fucking don't care!
A good friend that is not in the hobby anymore told me about a wealthy and good looking friend of him that ask multiple SP and got the service each time.
He told him he was a fucking idiot and to go get tested ASAP!!! Lol!

 

[MCTJ]

Yes, unfortunately there are still stupid and irresponsible people ( clients and SPs ) that think they are invulnerable or just fucking don't care!
A good friend that is not in the hobby anymore told me about a wealthy and good looking friend of him that ask multiple SP and got the service each time.
He told him he was a fucking idiot and to go get tested ASAP!!! Lol!

And me I am constantly looking at the condom to avoid any slippage or breakage. Different world...

 

[EagerBeaver]

And me I am constantly looking at the condom to avoid any slippage or breakage. Different world...

If you use a condom that fits like a glove you do not need to worry about such things........do you think Johnny Cochran had the same problems as you?

 

[sene5hos]

California makes it illegal to remove a condom without consent, an act called 'stealthing'

California Governor Gavin Newsom signed a bill into law Thursday making the state the first to prohibit "stealthing," or removing a condom during intercourse without a partner's verbal consent.

www.ctvnews.ca

Stealthing is a slang term for the act of removing a condom during sex without the consent of the partner. It's illegal in many places, and is a form of sexual assault.

California Governor Gavin Newsom signed a bill into law Thursday making the state the first to prohibit "stealthing," or removing a condom during intercourse without a partner's verbal consent.

The new law makes the removal of a condom without consent a sexual assault, and affirms that the practice "causes long-term physical and emotional harms to its victims," according to State Assembly member Cristina Garcia, a Democrat and author of the bill.

Garcia, a longtime proponent of the law, said reports of stealthing were increasing among women and gay men. She said she hopes other states follow with similar legislation making clear that "stealthing is not just immoral but illegal."

 

[CydoniaNights]

I dont blame guys seeing escorts for asking for the possibility of bbfs with them. You are just straight up lying if you think bare is not 5 times better than sex with condom. It is very tempting and almost a primal urge to go raw.

although i don’t partake in the hobby anymore, the idea of asking for bbfs definitely crossed my mind. I would be lying to say i didn’t fantasize about it with some girls. That being said it was just fantasy and i never asked any of the girls i saw for bbfs. I didn’t want to risk ruining a good thing, for 5 or 10 mins of extra pleasure. But I think if any of them had ever offered i would have taken the plunge. Would it be a smart thing to do, probably not, but if it’s too consenting parties opting into it, the risks are their own and they have to live with it. I dont think escorts or clients should be shamed for partaking in bbfs, assuming of course no extortion was involved and both parties were consenting. Yeah there are risks, but there are risks with condoms too. If you think condoms are some full proof shield that protects u from all the STIs you are just flat out wrong.

Chances are most escorts in montreal has done bareback with a client, and i guarantee a significant chunk was propositioned by the girl. The girls will never admit it but they have done it. Some girls will do it for more money, others will do it to keep loyal clientele and some will just do it cause they really like the client and are fine with dropping that boundary, cause guess what, girls love bb too! I have had escorts during my sessions talk about bareback unprovoked, saying how much better it is ext. Very well reviewed girls too.

what you have to remember is, this is a community that puts bbfs in a taboo. You get blacklisted and shunned for partaking in it. So obviously no one will admit to doing it or trying to get it, especially the girls. They can’t afford to be blacklisted by merb or by their agency and lose all that revenue. There are people on this forum who probably fuck escorts raw every other day and you will never know, cause why would they risk telling you? You guys are in a thought circle where the only voices allowed to speak are those against bbfs, so obviously it’s going to sound like so few people partake. For all you know that escort you saw last week who checked the condom 3 times let her sugar daddy fuck her raw the night before.

You might be like, well they are dumb cause they are putting themselves at risk. Well guess what, risk is subjective, everyone values things differently. You think some 50-60 year old with his best days behind him cares if he catches something? Nah man, to him getting to fuck 10/10 20 year olds raw is well worth the risk, a risk that again was never gone, just lessened by wearing protection. The risk is always there, always.

i think i went on a bit of a tangent but essentially what i’m trying to say is bb is the shit and there will always be people looking for it or willing to partake in it regardless of whether or not it is “safe” or not and there will always be escorts willing to go bb, they just won’t advertise it. This community is an eco chamber and doesn’t display the real reality of what escorts and clients do behind closed doors. Not everything is talked about and not everyone is dumb enough to get caught.

edit: for the record, i’m not saying bbfs should be encouraged or the norm. Obviously it’s in everyone’s best interest to use condoms. Just wanted to point out that many people are willing to take those risks, clients and providers alike and that this community does not actually represent how rampent unprotected sex is in this industry.

 

[testingsite]

You guys talking about this seems to have a negative effect in my life.

Last night, I had a nightmare dream about catching deadly STI and woke up in the middle of the night.