Asking girls for BBFS

[lgna69xxx]

One of my first thoughts when i read this thread! If there is solid proof i would ban them forever, no second chances when it comes to this and the safety of other guests that are coming out and supporting positive vibes in a industry we are trying to change how people think about! Stupid Selfish A-holes!

You may also want to consider giving their handle to party organizers so that they will be on a party ban list.

 

[lgna69xxx]

I can beat that by 5 times. A young SP was telling me recently that this is on the rise (getting asked for bbfs) and she was just offered recently, $5000 for it.

These clients offer 100-200 or even 1000$ extra.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

(getting asked for bbfs) and she was just offered recently, $5000 for it.

$5,000.00? Some people must have more money than brains. Personally I do not enjoy CFS, basically hate condom anything, preferred choice is BBBJCIMWS and I know where to go. Been married too long having sex without a condom,

 

[Doggyluver]

The problem other than the obvious is that there are escorts out there actually advertising creampie as an extra, that being said it then becomes and invitation for guys to request it. I have had SP's tell me that they get this request on a regular basis and are turning down business because these guys are telling them no BBFS I'll go elsewhere. Have these guys never heard of STI's ?

 

[jalimon]

Do these guys know that their dick will fall off if they continue to see girl who do BBFS?

Cheers,

 

[eviltmp]

While I wholeheartedly agree with James and his sentiment, the ironic twist is that the one time the girl was really into offering me bbfs, it was one of James' girls. When asked about this later she swore she only offered it to me and never to anyone else (sure sweetie, whatever you say...). She is now retired.
All this to say it's not just the responsibility of merbites to keep this kind of thing in check.

 

[Halloween Mike]

I don't understand why some guys still try to request/do this. They should know by now its not only risky but a big rule in the escort industry to not cross.

When it comes to escorts offering it, personally it never happened to me, and i hope it never does. I would say NO obviously but that mean she has done it with other clients and it would make me nervous. I know some escorts most certainly do it with there boyfriend or even personal fuckfriend, but i tend to hope for the best and think they have are being checked frequently and know each other are clean. In the end best way for me to protect myself is to always stay protected for vaginal intercourse.

I will admit tough that CBJ is not my thing, and i would be very disapointed if BBJ was not the norm anymore. But as some peoples said in this thread its less risky and from what i gather almost impossible to get HIV that way.

So if you are sure some clients try to do this, yes ban them, they should know by now its a NO GO. But i am also agreeing with Doc and Iggy here on one thing. Better be carefull this is true as this would quickly tarnish there reputation.

 

[jalimon]

No more text booking with Euphoria? Guess I ll have to call them next time I am visiting.

No James wrote "we don't take bookings from text applications"

They refuse text app, not sms.

Cheers,

 

[ShyMan]

More power to James for bring this highly dangerous practice; I thank the girls for reporting this to him. It makes me feel respected and safe (I've had SP from other agencies tell me they have only one condom; so the session ends) when a Euphoria girl tells me that she has an extra condom and it's not a problem to take off the existing one to try to revive my Mr. Johnson so she can put on another hat after he gets erected for more fun.

I don't know Canadian and Quebec laws on privacy and libel laws but I think banning the offending clients from your agency (i.e., Euphoria Girls) is a safer (legally) and less controversial practice for you and the girls, James.

Thank you very much for trying to make Montréal's Hobbyland as safe as possible, James and Euphoria Girls.

 

[minutemenX]

James, please post their MERB handles now. On top of health risks it is extremely bad for business as eventually will end up in some serious transmissions, involvement of LE and very bad publicity that will effect business for years. I also suspect that some girls are guilty as well and I encourage MERB members to post when they are proposed BBS for a fee or not. If it is done under mutual consent it is very difficult to catch but I am sure the other girls at the agency has much more information about it than the booker or the owner. They should find the way to discretely report it too.

 

[B52]

I can beat that by 5 times. A young SP was telling me recently that this is on the rise (getting asked for bbfs) and she was just offered recently, $5000 for it.

A girl I used to see with GG told me once that a client insisted to do BBFS, she said no even if you offered me a milion$. The jerk went on and removed the condom while doing doggy! she slapped him and put her cloths on and left.

james knows how to handle those situations, unfortunately not all bookers and owners are as qualified and as professional as him so not sure what this is gonna give. Protect your ladies james, no need to expose the names, just ban them from your agency for a start.

 

[minutemenX]

I was going to type out exactly what Doc says but then he saved me the trouble... doing something like this opens the huge possibility of abuse. A girl who simply does not like a client for whatever reason could easily lie to the booker to get a member banned or black listed. It's one thing to discuss this problem but some of the members asking for immediate posting of handles and numbers have not thought this through properly. Luckily, there are some sensible people like Doc to speak up.

Any enforcement steps create possibility of abuse. Even the best judicial system from time to time punishes innocents, but the good for the public safety in reducing crime prevails. The abuse can be partially mitigated with an open public discussion and defense right here on the MERB

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

The agency owner will need to make sure the fact is proven, a regular employee would not try and put something false against someone, that would be a bold false claim to make. I can see the ph # being left out though.

 

[ShyMan]

I think this is a great initiative by James. Thank you for making us aware of this hidden problem.

It seems like there are two kinds of BBFS clients:
. . .
2. A client that sneaks it in (via doggy or "in the heat of the moment").

This is RAPE! It's non-consenting by the lady (or male SP). That's why the law must treat sex workers as the human beings that they are, entitled to the fullest protection of the law, universally.

 

[Rusty Staub]

We know that many escorts will have more sexual partners in a given week working than most (non SP) women will have in their lifetime.

We also have absolutely no idea what kinds of sexual risks SP's take in their personal and professional lives. It was not long ago that a Montreal agency girl contracted HIV while doing bareback porn in the US.

On the risk/reward scale a John has to be at minimum a moron or at worst have a death wish to suggest BBFS with, objectively, a high-risk partner.

For John's that pull off the condom and "sneak it in", they deserve an eternal seat in a sauna in the depths of hell.

 

[Halloween Mike]

We know that many escorts will have more sexual partners in a given week working than most (non SP) women will have in their lifetime.

We also have absolutely no idea what kinds of sexual risks SP's take in their personal and professional lives. It was not long ago that a Montreal agency girl contracted HIV while doing bareback porn in the US.

Who was it? Usually porn performers are tested by cycle of 14 days in the states. In general its safe but i heard of a couple performers having it and when it was discovered obviously they left the industry.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Who was it? Usually porn performers are tested by cycle of 14 days in the states. In general its safe but i heard of a couple performers having it and when it was discovered obviously they left the industry.

I remember her quite well. She worked for a very popular agency, although briefly, before contracting hiv during a gangbang filmed in Brazil. What's more astonishing is that she tried to work again in Mtl afterwards. An agency owner friend of mine at the time told me that 'Lara' had come to apply for work one day. She thought she looked familiar and had bad vibes about her, so she turned her away. I also remember her posting as an indy on some classified ads boards. Scary shit.

 

[Halloween Mike]

damn...

Well a gangbang in Brazil is not really the same as LA porn industry ...

Scary indeed that she wanted to keep working as an escort...

 

[pat98]

We know that many escorts will have more sexual partners in a given week working than most (non SP) women will have in their lifetime.

We also have absolutely no idea what kinds of sexual risks SP's take in their personal and professional lives. It was not long ago that a Montreal agency girl contracted HIV while doing bareback porn in the US.

Not long ago? really?

FYI
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lara_Roxx

Lara Roxx (born December 12, 1982) is the former stage name of the Canadian former pornographic actress who, in March 2004, became the first known individual in four years to contract HIV while making a U.S. pornographic video.

Roxx became famous in 2004 at age 21, after being exposed to HIV while doing a pornographic scene with Darren James. She allegedly contracted the disease just two months after doing her first scene, a double anal. Roxx said previously that she relied on the industry's HIV standards to ensure her safety.

James and Roxx have been banned from any further porn production in the US. At the end of April 2004, it was confirmed that Jessica Dee and Miss Arroyo, after having worked with James, also tested positive for HIV.
Roxx, on learning about James being HIV-positive, said, "It totally made me realize how I trusted this system that wasn't to be trusted at all, because it obviously doesn't work," and "I thought porn people were the cleanest people in the world."

This outbreak, the first in four years, led to a voluntary moratorium on porn production for 30 days (60 days was originally announced), starting in April 2004, while it confirmed all possible contacts among porn performers. No adult video production companies were required to comply.

Roxx appeared on Entertainment Tonight, in an ABC special. In 2007, on an episode of The Maury Povich Show, she came on to talk to wild teens about her past, and to help them prevent making the mistakes she made in the past.

She is currently working on various projects linked to the 2004 events, such as her Lara Roxx Foundation, which is committed to educating the public and preventing the spread of HIV.

She is the subject of a Canadian documentary film entitled Inside Lara Roxx directed by Canadian filmmaker and photographer Mia Donovan, which explores her 2004 HIV infection and her life since the media coverage of this incident subsided.

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I remember her quite well. She worked for a very popular agency, although briefly, before contracting hiv during a gangbang filmed in Brazil.

@DocH: check your sources!
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_James
It was concluded that James had possibly been infected while engaging in unprotected anal sex with Brazilian actress Bianca Biaggi during a scene for the video Split That Booty 2 in Rio de Ja​neiro



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About an SP taking risks in her personal life, obviously it happens but it is fortunately mostly rare, a lot of girl are aware of risks more than you imagine when they works ... Problem is when they are not working, their "defense" might then be very lower...

 

[Halloween Mike]

Oh ok... well much different information than we tough... Thanks for the precisions.