Asking girls for BBFS

[clark_larson]

All this talk of potential risk... yet how many of you are responsible enough to get tested regularly so that you are (almost) NOT a potential STD transmittal vector inadvertently?? Let's be honest... most of you talk about GFE/BBBJ/DATY et cetera in other threads... you can do whatever you want to minimize your risk, but you are still a potential vector. All it takes is one, no?

exactly my point

all these guys saying I fucked her in the ass, I spit in her mouth, I snowballed with three other gals, she swallowed my load, but dude doing bbfs? no way! Such people should be in jail! Criminals! #beCleanMoFo

Right...Easy to condemn to forget one's attitude.

 

[ssj3]

Doesn't it follow that BBBJ and CIM go together

Are you suggesting that any SP that does bbbj will also do CIM? I don’t know if I read your post correctly

 

[Willgill]

Are you suggesting that any SP that does bbbj will also do CIM? I don’t know if I read your post correctly

hi ssj, I read the posts back and forth, and I think here is the logic flow: Negan said CIM is dangerous, Jalimon then said BBBJ is more dangerous, Negan then counter argue with the sentence you quote, essentially saying CIM implies BBBJ (not the other way round).

I do have too too much time...

btw is this the only thread with a FOUR STAR rating?

 

[alyson.euphoria]

I believe keeping a thread like this one alive brings more people to read about the subject. All the risks related to this hobby might be clear for some of you, but I assure you it's not for everyone. It would be wrong to assume that all the hobbyists are aware of every single risk encountered for every single sexual practice (i.e BBFS, BBBJ, CIM, etc.). Spreading awareness is the only thing we can do to help keeping this hobby safe. I get tested every 3-4 weeks to make sure I'm not affected by any disease and I hope everyone does the same (I highly doubt it). - A

 

[MaxxxEdge]

I do, sometimes more frequently. If I work, I do so with a fresh test (less than 2 weeks old)

Current count: 2 of us

Anyone else???

 

[Willgill]

If I work, I do so with a fresh test (less than 2 weeks old)

i honestly get lost here, are you a provider?

 

[MaxxxEdge]

i honestly get lost here, are you a provider?

No, I produce porn and perform. I don't "hobby" very often (I've been to MTL enough to know the scene there) but work with talent who escort (it's become quite prevalent). For shooting, fresh tests (less than 2 weeks) have become the norm (here in the USA), but I take it a step further and work with a fresh test for every new girl I work with. I also require fresh tests for girls who my producer/agent friends can't vouch for. Similarly, I got tested every time I went to MTL/Toronto just in case, even when I didn't plan on having fun and especially if I did. Funny thing is that if I book a girl for a BJ, which isn't very different from a BBBJ with a provider in MTL, the girl and I are required to have a test. Some of the attitudes here seem pretty naive and shortsighted which I kind of expect, but I do tend to agree with Clark's previous comment.

 

[Willgill]

Wow, you must be naturally talented.

i am also naturally talented, but the other head

 

[MaxxxEdge]

Wow, you must be naturally talented.

i am also naturally talented, but the other head

No, not really... I'm just an ordinary guy trying to live an extraordinary life...

Long story short (no pun intended, lol)... several of my good friends are ex-pornstars... or should I say pornstuds... you know, the guys you want to hate because they look great, have amazing physiques, and get paid to fuck all the top girls. Well, that wasn't me... and I was the butt of all their jokes/ribbing, being the shortest, scrawniest, and least endowed of all of them, all in good fun of course. So during a particularly dry spell of mine, I was shooting a girl and pointed the camera down... the rest is history.

I developed skills, because they "taught" me... what I lacked physically, I had to make up in performance. I still laugh at myself and often, but I do my best to encourage the new group of young talent who are contemplating doing what I do. After all, if I can do it, anyone can...

 

[transatlantic]

It's always interesting to see the massive taboo regarding the std talk in the community here and elsewhere (europe too). The reasoning is always "we know the risks, so shut up". First of all, I've noticed that many posters do *not* in fact know the risks as well as they think, as evidenced by the misinformation that's often posted (for instance the stats on the transferability of HIV).
Second, just because you know the risks now or in the past does not mean those risks stay the same. It is an ever changing topic, and thus always worthy of discussion.

The problem with this thread is majority of posts are not about risk and the ones that are are not medically credible. The message is simple, use a condom. It shouldn’t have to take 271 posts and counting to get this message across.

Second this. And FYI there is a whole sub forum called "Health Info" where you can find all the facts and statistics of STD that you want.

Third this.

I believe keeping a thread like this one alive brings more people to read about the subject. All the risks related to this hobby might be clear for some of you, but I assure you it's not for everyone. It would be wrong to assume that all the hobbyists are aware of every single risk encountered for every single sexual practice (i.e BBFS, BBBJ, CIM, etc.). Spreading awareness is the only thing we can do to help keeping this hobby safe. I get tested every 3-4 weeks to make sure I'm not affected by any disease and I hope everyone does the same (I highly doubt it). - A

Hobbyists seeking education on STDs should go to a more authoritative source than this thread. Most of the members here haven’t had formal medical training.

I do, sometimes more frequently. If I work, I do so with a fresh test (less than 2 weeks old)

Current count: 2 of us

Anyone else???

I test for most except HepA/B (vaccinated) after almost every visit to Montreal while considering the different testing windows requirements of each STD. Once/twice a year I do a full panel including Hep A/B.

 

[The Nature Boy]

“Hobbyists seeking education on STDs should go to a more authoritative source than this thread. Most of the members here haven’t had formal medical training.”Spot on transatlantic, thank you

 

[jalimon]

Just a reminder. This thread is not about sex education. It was started because of ass holes asking/paying/forcing bbfs. Which is a threat to us all.

Cheers,

 

[Willgill]

Which is a treat to us all.

Cheers,

To avoid confusion, I think you mean "threat", right?

 

[jalimon]

Shit haha yes!! Thanks, fucking different meaning indeed! (I edited my post)

 

[EagerBeaver]

“Hobbyists seeking education on STDs should go to a more authoritative source than this thread. Most of the members here haven’t had formal medical training.”Spot on transatlantic, thank you

This was the stated reason by the Mods in shutting down at least 5 BBFS health risk threads that I can recall in the past. Nobody needs to consult an anonymous internet review board for medical advice. The threads that were shut down had many posts by wannabe experts who in reality know nothing. This thread is more of the same.

 

[MaxxxEdge]

I test for most except HepA/B (vaccinated) after almost every visit to Montreal while considering the different testing windows requirements of each STD. Once/twice a year I do a full panel including Hep A/B.

Cool, 3 of us so far... and counting??

Just a reminder. This thread is not about sex education. It was started because of ass holes asking/paying/forcing bbfs. Which is a threat to us all.

Cheers,

Just a reminder. Any post that encourages fact checking or further sex education is never a bad thing. Threat to us all? With BBFS of course it is obvious, but there are also a lot of other things that are a threat to us all. Threat is relative... just because someone doesn't believe it is a threat to oneself does not mean it storps being a risk factor... just sayin'...

This was the stated reason by the Mods in shutting down at least 5 BBFS health risk threads that I can recall in the past. Nobody needs to consult an anonymous internet review board for medical advice. The threads that were shut down had many posts by wannabe experts who in reality know nothing. This thread is more of the same.

Just curious EB... who are the wannabe experts? I didn't see anyone trying to be one, only a lot of speculation and "theory." With the exception of MrProfiteroles, I didn't see anyone putting out (unsubstantiated BTW) numbers or facts. It's up to each person to do their own research, assess their own risk toleranace, and be as responsible as possible to mitigate risk to others. It's easy to think (or not think) about risk to oneself and BBFS certainly grabs the headlines, but to think of our risk to others? Not so much...

 

[MrProfiteroles]

This was the stated reason by the Mods in shutting down at least 5 BBFS health risk threads that I can recall in the past.

There are actually 5 BBFS threads and no one is shut down!
This one is the only one started earlier this year and others are dating for more than 10 years!
This is why I posted my original message earlier this week here!

Cool, 3 of us so far... and counting??
Just curious EB... who are the wannabe experts? I didn't see anyone trying to be one, only a lot of speculation and "theory." With the exception of MrProfiteroles, I didn't see anyone putting out (unsubstantiated BTW) numbers or facts. It's up to each person to do their own research, assess their own risk toleranace, and be as responsible as possible to mitigate risk to others. It's easy to think (or not think) about risk to oneself and BBFS certainly grabs the headlines, but to think of our risk to others? Not so much...

Thanks Maxxx! I really appreciate any of your posts in this thread!
I got tested recently and plan to get tested on a regular basis too.

The problem with this thread is majority of posts are not about risk and the ones that are are not medically credible. The message is simple, use a condom. It shouldn’t have to take 271 posts and counting to get this message across.

Of course if you and your friends living miles away from MTL didn't try to highjack/shutdown this thread maybe we'll not have to go through hundreds of posts to get my original message!
Call me and my friends here of "teenage biologist" or any other names, I don't really care! I said what I had to say and that's it!
And per what I saw last night on an "Indy advertising site", looks like the message got through is way anyway!


Best regards.

Mr.P.

 

[Willgill]

I developed skills, because they "taught" me... what I lacked physically, I had to make up in performance. I still laugh at myself and often, but I do my best to encourage the new group of young talent who are contemplating doing what I do. After all, if I can do it, anyone can...

That is interesting, any quick know hows on how to improve performance?

 

[jalimon]

Thanks Mr. P. I too find any kind of opposition to this thread quite strange.

MaxxxEdge you are right, many other issue can arise other then bbfs.

As for testing I do too. 2 things to say as for the test:
1. the 24h result turnaround fast test cost the same thing as a 1h girl with extra...
2. when I go there I am so scared to run into some of my favorite sp haha

ho and 3, when the cute nurse put the stick down my throat I gagged and my eyes filled with water.. She said "normal it's the gag reflex.." we smiled at each other haha la cochonne!

Cheers,

 

[MaxxxEdge]

I got tested recently and plan to get tested on a regular basis too.

As for testing I do too. 2 things to say as for the test:
1. the 24h result turnaround fast test cost the same thing as a 1h girl with extra...
2. when I go there I am so scared to run into some of my favorite sp haha

5 and counting...

BTW, not trying to be an asshole here... though I'll be the first to admit I can go from zero-to-asshole faster than 0-100km/h of any Italian supercar... but almost everyone in this thread (myself included) is justifying their position based on their own risk tolerance. There are some very good points in this thread, however, one thing is for certain... you cannot justify your "risky" actions because it is less risky than the next person who is less risk adverse than you. Here is a sobering fact: almost every time there is an HIV outbreak or scare in the adult industry, and in most cases of antibiotic-curable STD's propagated between performers, the source of origin has a gay vector (gay for pay/bi/etc. actors that work in less stringently tested environments) or through girls who do extracurriculars (i.e. pornscorting) with civilians (you guys, lol), which then becomes a threat to ME and my friends (everything is relative, right?). Though it does happen between performers, regular and frequent industry testing does keep the numbers relatively small within the community. In fact, I would rather have BBFS with a performer who tests regularly (assuming she doesn't irresponsibly pornscort) than a SP who offers BBBJ/CIM who has never tested.

Testing can get expensive, especially when you are getting a full panel every 2 weeks, but having fun and being responsible has it's price. Small in the grand scheme of things. As far as running into someone you know at the testing center, I've met a lot of girls who I now want to work with because I was in the right place at the right time... I would think your favorite SP would be more comfortable with you afterwards knowing you're clean, no?