Backpage Seized by the FBI

[urquell]

I doubt the defense means anything. The girls can't wait for the legalities to sort themselves out while they starve. By the time it gets sorted out, and it's very unlikely to change in any case, I suspect, the SPs will have had to have found alternate channels. I suppose it's somewhat similar to what happened with Craigslist some years back, although not exactly. Girls who aren't already established through other channels are going to have a very hard time. All eggs in one basket isn't good for this line of work.

 

[VMaxRideHer]

http://www.lapresse.ca/techno/inter...titution-le-site-backpage-plaide-coupable.php

[h=1]Prostitution : le site Backpage plaide coupable[/h]

 

[westwoody]

Nobody is posting anything about the defense. I assume Backpage is not taking this laying down? There are all kinds of 1st amendment arguments to be made.

Head of backpage made a deal. May face five years but pleaded guilty to several money laundering charges and facilitating prostitution.

So, no defence.

 

[Meat Missile]

The SP landscape in the USA is morphing and will not look as it did in the past. It may one day come back, but not anytime soon.

 

[VMaxRideHer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFsFp46YiEs&ab_channel=SGTreport

 

[arthur_vandelay]

Not quite sure what to make of this, but according to this, the NYPD is now doing “hotel operations”


https://nypost.com/2018/04/15/thai-general-briefly-detained-in-ny-after-prostitution-bust/

 

[RobertNYC]

Not quite sure what to make of this, but according to this, the NYPD is now doing “hotel operations”


https://nypost.com/2018/04/15/thai-general-briefly-detained-in-ny-after-prostitution-bust/

You see this is a problem going forward. More than likely it was an incall appointment (this diplomat going to the hotel) since police almost never post an ad for outcall since they don’t want the risks - physical and legal - of entering an individual’s hotel room. But without TER to verify what escort is legit, I fear you’re going to see a lot more of these types of busts.

 

[Bred Sob]

police almost never post an ad for outcall

Given the subject of this thread, where do they post ads these days? Just curious...

 

[RobertNYC]

Given the subject of this thread, where do they post ads these days? Just curious...

Backpage was loaded with ads posted by police, and there are still local boards in the states that I’m sure they’re using.

 

[Randy Johson]

CBC Radio-The Current on Backpage Closing & new US law

The Current... CBC current affairs program did a segment on the closing of backpage and the new US law today.

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/...cking-laws-are-a-risk-to-her-safety-1.4624546

 

[Canada-man]

i missed it

 

[Randy Johson]

Click on the link..and the hit listen

 

[Frozen]

related?

I am in the US. When I tried to access Humpshies I got the following message:

[FONT=&quot][ x ] This site's content is not avaibale in your country

I was successful via a VPN

Cheers,
Fredd[/FONT]

 

[forever newbi]

Very recently I had a visitor who mention the shut down of backpage was not as bad as she thought...

She work with a well known local agency and it turns out her taken was not that bad when account all the managing she no longer need to take care. Also advertising on backpage was in fact very expensive, that she no longer need to pay out of her porket.

 

[sweetspot]

it occurred to me that SESTA can have the effect of limiting foreign escorts from working in the US. When girls do travel tours, they post on local boards and of course Backpage where they get lots of exposure. Now with these resources cut off, foreign girls will have limited exposure and they might not go to the US if they don't think they can get enough booking. American girls have the luxury of trial and error since they live there, they will figure out something eventually and build local connections. But I can see it's gonna be hard for visiting girls.

SESTA essentially deters non-US girls from working there. I can think of a few mtl girls that are definitely affected.

 

[CaptRenault]

Here's a long article on about the unjust persecution of the founders of Backpage, but it's worth reading.

The Senate Accused Them of Selling Kids for Sex. The FBI Raided Their Homes. Backpage.com’s Founders Speak for the First Time.

An inside look at how indie media veterans James Larkin and Michael Lacey became the targets of a federal witchhunt.

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | August 21, 2018
reason.com

...The story of their arrest, then, is better understood as one of near-religious fervor, government greed, and political retribution, in which an escalating panic over commercial sex coincided with a booming online publishing platform...

 

[EagerBeaver]

Historically in the adult entertainment business survival required a certain amount of political savvy as in knowing who were the players who need to be paid for inaction whether through legal or illegal bribes and kickbacks. I can think of a local massage parlor that survived for many years in a CT city which was shutting down competitor MPs. The reason why they didn’t touch the one was that the owner figured out that if he made charitable donations to charities highly favored by the police department and State’s Attorney’s office, they would leave him alone. He was right. He proceeded to operate with impunity in a municipality hostile to that type of business.

The owners of BP got powerful and greedy and never stopped to figure out how they could play some ball with the powers that could shut them down. Probably all they had to do is make campaign contributions to favored Republicans running for re-election and they would have been left alone. I got money that says they were solicited to do so and refused, and then what happened happened. It’s all about figuring out how to survive in a harsh political landscape and they couldn’t do it.

None of the media stories are telling you this which is the real story behind the story.

 

[curly]

I think that the FBI should seize the whole internet altogether and prevent its citizens from using it. I'm sure there are much more adds for prostitution on there (and many other illegal things, for that matter...) then there ever were on Backpage!

And then, maybe seize newspapers, magazines? They should even prevent people from talking to each other or control what they say! In the end, communicating with each other is the ultimate way for prostitution to occurs.... Those of you who watch the Handmaid's Tale know what I'm talking about....

Where does the state stop trying to control citizen? As Trudeau (the father) once said, "'There's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation"!

 

[EagerBeaver]

Patron,

It's true that the FBI is a tougher nut to crack, but I truly believe that there are ways the BP CEO could have done things that prevented the FBI action in the first place. Your post presumes identification of a player within the FBI but that is not where they should have been looking. The guy they should have been looking to pay was Dave Pecker (appropriately named) of the National Enquirer. Had these guys befriended Cohen and Pecker it would have been very easy to set up a hush-type payment to Pecker to assist with the Trump hush monies, in other words, to essentially finance the Trump "Reelection Fund" with the National Enquirer. What I think happened is that BP got very cocky because they repeatedly won Court challenges in lawsuits brought by politicians and special interest groups. Victory was achieved on 1st Amendment grounds, to the point where they thought they were home free. These lawsuits should have been a red flag warning sign of the turbulent political waters they would have to navigate.

With foresight Carl Ferrer could have arranged a 3 way conversation with Mike Cohen and Dave Pecker and arranged a payment to replenish the "Trump Reelection Fund" that was being maintained by the National Enquirer. Then this might have all been made to go away.

That being said, the FBI is a somewhat autonomous organization operating independently of the President but after Trump fired Comey, that may have changed a bit. It was certainly worth a shot.

Although that hush fund is reported as being extensive it may have gotten its biggest boost from Stormy Daniels because her shopping the story to them enabled the payment that was made.

 

[rumraycer]

Patron, civil forfeiture is an out-of-control monster in the USA - check out many examples at http://endforfeiture.com/