Backpage Seized by the FBI
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Gugu,
So true what you said but come on they know this will do nothing to curb human trafficking. This is a law imposed by the conservatives to impose their cheap moralism and theocracy. They want to appeal to the Evangelical base and social conservatives. It is much easier to get guns then to get healthcare for everyone, to book an escort, for a woman to have an abortion. All these things you mentioned are part of the platform of the right-wing conservatives. Many members here on this board like to place all the blame on feminists but feminists played no part in this. A republican senator introduced SESTA. The republicans removed net neutrality. This was all a beginning of the end of social liberty. You people better hope that the Scheer and his conservatives do not get into power in Canada because he is a bible fanatic and will finish up what Harper started and will very possible follow the lead of Trump.
So true what you said but come on they know this will do nothing to curb human trafficking. This is a law imposed by the conservatives to impose their cheap moralism and theocracy. They want to appeal to the Evangelical base and social conservatives. It is much easier to get guns then to get healthcare for everyone, to book an escort, for a woman to have an abortion. All these things you mentioned are part of the platform of the right-wing conservatives. Many members here on this board like to place all the blame on feminists but feminists played no part in this. A republican senator introduced SESTA. The republicans removed net neutrality. This was all a beginning of the end of social liberty. You people better hope that the Scheer and his conservatives do not get into power in Canada because he is a bible fanatic and will finish up what Harper started and will very possible follow the lead of Trump.
i keep hearing Trump but is every one forgetting the vp mike Pence is an evangelical . the ugly head of religion rears itself once again
be careful what you wish for . I cant stand hillary but boy now do i wish she got elected. i am lost without the erotic review and city vibe
i wonder how much longer we in the us will be able to get into merb
be careful what you wish for . I cant stand hillary but boy now do i wish she got elected. i am lost without the erotic review and city vibe
i wonder how much longer we in the us will be able to get into merb
edjohnson,
What you said is what I have been saying for a long time. But on this board we got so many conservative sheep who are in denial and put the blame on feminists and left-wing politicians. They could not be further from the truth. If Hilary was elected there would still be a net neutrality law and there would be no SESTA. If Harper was not elected there would be no Bill C-36. Remember people if you like this hobby never vote for a conservative/republican. The conservatives will never allow prostitution to exist since it goes against their bible beliefs.
What you said is what I have been saying for a long time. But on this board we got so many conservative sheep who are in denial and put the blame on feminists and left-wing politicians. They could not be further from the truth. If Hilary was elected there would still be a net neutrality law and there would be no SESTA. If Harper was not elected there would be no Bill C-36. Remember people if you like this hobby never vote for a conservative/republican. The conservatives will never allow prostitution to exist since it goes against their bible beliefs.
As far as I knoe GPDR is all about giving consent (and let the users have full retraction of his data) to any web site. But when a John goes to an SP website he is all about giving consent dont you think?
Just curious why you wrote that.
Cheers,
I think this is the main point. Here, LE and the prosecutors offices are interested only to prosecute street prostitution and, of course anything else truly criminal involving constraints by third parties. Take massage parlors for exemple. My understanding is that is is quite easy for the city council in USA to order LE to bust the place. It is not, here. Laval politicians, for instance, decided that they will not tolerate parlors anymore except for two or three located in industrial zonings. LE will not accept busting the places, mainly because the provincial prosecutor does not want them to do so. They will make visits but nothing else. So the only way for the city is by refusing to issu business permits, leading to eventual non criminal prosecutions. The legal principal should be quite clear: the criminal code should be used to prosecute real crimes, not morality.
As for the publicity of sexual services, I have no idea. We have not seen any clamp down initiatives yet. All escort agencies have online publicity. The impacts were mainly on the printed press. However I would not be surprised if the US were pressing the Canadian government to make sure american entrepreneurs do not move their servers to Canada. But that's pure speculation.
which local sites do you think will the extra traffic will re-route to?
what about in alberta? a lot of quebec girls do tours out west, and it is convenient sometimes to know where they are. i only know bp out west.
what about in alberta? a lot of quebec girls do tours out west, and it is convenient sometimes to know where they are. i only know bp out west.
The good ones advertise on CAF, complete shill board ut the advertisements are there
Maybe leolist.cc will also profit from backpage closure in canada.
I remember seeing some girls ads on humchies last years with a paper mentionning leolist.cc hand written.
I don't know if they got paid to advertise them on competitor's ad's sites...
Anyway, I thing it gained popularity...
But I might be wrong too.
I never used it yet.
I remember seeing some girls ads on humchies last years with a paper mentionning leolist.cc hand written.
I don't know if they got paid to advertise them on competitor's ad's sites...
Anyway, I thing it gained popularity...
But I might be wrong too.
I never used it yet.
Unclebob. It's not about them getting paid to advertise for leolist. It's that they must have used the same picture on leolist. The way that site works is that you have 2 ways to advertise. 1- Just putting your ad and pictures or 2 - If you upload a picture holding a paper saying leolist,cc , they will label you as a " verified member" so potential clients will know it's your actual picture and not some amazonian/instagram amateur model!
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/10/backpage-leaders-beat-pimping-charges-as
that happened a while ago and now with their new law coming up....
that happened a while ago and now with their new law coming up....
The start of some pushback from the msm?https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...rkers-so-mad-about-it/?utm_term=.52619acbd3f0
Another mainstream variation on the same theme as Patron's WP article:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...s-us-cracks-down-on-online-ads-girls-will-die
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...s-us-cracks-down-on-online-ads-girls-will-die
from the washington post article:
investigation discovered that the classified ads website had been editing language to disguise listings for underage girls instead of deleting them, and an exposé by The Post revealed moderators actively solicited and even created similar ads.
i dont know whether to beleive this or not, despite the fact that I trust the washington post (as opposed to trump
)
I've often wondered if BP themselves post fake ads to inflate the number of postings. Sort of like Ashley Madison.
However, I have never seen an ad that suggested underage girls (and I have been following these ads for years).
An sp today told me how she was unhappy about the situation with BP.
Interesting times we live in...
investigation discovered that the classified ads website had been editing language to disguise listings for underage girls instead of deleting them, and an exposé by The Post revealed moderators actively solicited and even created similar ads.
i dont know whether to beleive this or not, despite the fact that I trust the washington post (as opposed to trump
)I've often wondered if BP themselves post fake ads to inflate the number of postings. Sort of like Ashley Madison.
However, I have never seen an ad that suggested underage girls (and I have been following these ads for years).
An sp today told me how she was unhappy about the situation with BP.
Interesting times we live in...
Do you believe your own eyes or a reporter that probably never looked at escort ads and just repeated information from law enforcement?
Closure of BP has had worldwide effect, for instance in Australia where sexwork is legal. Other USA sites such as Fetlife are on the verge of self-shutdown. And, how about the CLOUD act which was just passed by the US Congress as a part of the recent federal budget bill? https://adultbizlaw.com/2018/04/06/fosta-the-cloud-act-the-1-2-punch-to-end-online-escorting/
And then the timing of the BP closure has been criticized by many who see that the mainstream media covered it last weekend as 'sex trafficing' whereas when the details of the indictment were released this Monday it was simply 'promoting prostitution' with many of the counts relating to a single ad. Also the indictment lists about 10-12 properties (probably worth several million $ in total) owned by the accused persons will be seized if any of the charges are found to be valid in court. And - all this BEFORE FOSTA/SESTA has been signed into law by Pres. Trump !!
Sex workers are having it rough these days - check this list:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c1nqawo1QuiVlpA3bhS8xyDxzDDlRq6BoogAoc91OmU/edit#
So, give your favorite sex workers your support and hugs!
And then the timing of the BP closure has been criticized by many who see that the mainstream media covered it last weekend as 'sex trafficing' whereas when the details of the indictment were released this Monday it was simply 'promoting prostitution' with many of the counts relating to a single ad. Also the indictment lists about 10-12 properties (probably worth several million $ in total) owned by the accused persons will be seized if any of the charges are found to be valid in court. And - all this BEFORE FOSTA/SESTA has been signed into law by Pres. Trump !!
Sex workers are having it rough these days - check this list:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c1nqawo1QuiVlpA3bhS8xyDxzDDlRq6BoogAoc91OmU/edit#
So, give your favorite sex workers your support and hugs!
Care to read the BP indictment? Here it is, all 61 pages of it...
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4434401-Backpage.html#document/p43/a416482
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4434401-Backpage.html#document/p43/a416482
Nobody is posting anything about the defense. I assume Backpage is not taking this laying down? There are all kinds of 1st amendment arguments to be made.
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