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Barack Obama: A Historic President

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Jman47

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Actually, I'm one of those who believe that the Bush presidency was one of the most successful in the history of the USA. It's my belief that George W. Bush, when he took office, had one goal in mind: make his rich friends even richer, rich beyond their wildest dreams. With that goal in mind, he cut their taxes and started a war from which they could profit primarily be looting the US Treasury under the guise of rebuilding the country through both unbid contracts and hiring such companies as Blackwater to act as mercenaries. I don't believe for a second that he ever had the best interests of the country in mind. But while he was tremendously successful at enriching his fat-cat buddies, he left the national economy in shambles.

LOL, Maybe my portfolio and trust fund from W just got lost in the mail...
 

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Actually, I'm one of those who believe that the Bush presidency was one of the most successful in the history of the USA. It's my belief that George W. Bush, when he took office, had one goal in mind: make his rich friends even richer, rich beyond their wildest dreams. With that goal in mind, he cut their taxes and started a war from which they could profit primarily be looting the US Treasury under the guise of rebuilding the country through both unbid contracts and hiring such companies as Blackwater to act as mercenaries. I don't believe for a second that he ever had the best interests of the country in mind. But while he was tremendously successful at enriching his fat-cat buddies, he left the national economy in shambles.

Hmm... funny but even after all of those truths, I still do not believe he, himself, was smart enough, nor cunning enough to do that. His cabinet maybe, but not W. He is and always was (to me) just a moldable facade with just the right mix of personality and lack of spine to not make trouble for the puppetmasters. That itself is not an excuse, but like McCain, and that sheBitchShitForBrainsWhoreFromBumfuckvilleAlaska, are just vessles, they have no vision beyond their self glorification.
 

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Hmm... funny but even after all of those truths, I still do not believe he, himself, was smart enough, nor cunning enough to do that. His cabinet maybe, but not W. He is and always was (to me) just a moldable facade with just the right mix of personality and lack of spine to not make trouble for the puppetmasters. That itself is not an excuse, but like McCain, and that sheBitchShitForBrainsWhoreFromBumfuckvilleAlaska, are just vessles, they have no vision beyond their self glorification.
Guess I should have been more clear. When I said "Bush presidency," I just assumed you knew I meant "Cheney."

Considering that GW Bush has fucked up everything he's ever touched in his life (see: Harkin Oil, Texas Rangers, Texas Air Force Reserve), we can probably give him credit for all the fucked up things that happened to the US of A in those 8 years, but as far as looting the Treasury was concerned, he wasn't really man enough for the job all by himself.
 

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Imagine that...a SR VP from a failed bank blaming the government for the failing of his institution while he sits at home managing his portfolio comprised of HUGE bonus earnings he collected while his bank was failing...cry me a river.

As usual, you paint the scene of a fat cat counting his money after the fact. He was lamenting to me while doing the loan he was forced to do by the Clinton Administration. Nice try at a spin, but as usual with extreme liberals, not the true picture.
 

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As usual, you paint the scene of a fat cat counting his money after the fact. He was lamenting to me while doing the loan he was forced to do by the Clinton Administration. Nice try at a spin, but as usual with extreme liberals, not the true picture.

Nice try CS, but I won't get down there in the gutter with you and Sarah...LOL...I just love it, ooohhh an extreme liberal now...hard to see past the center when you are so far right isn't it?

Ahh, yes the answer to everything - extreme name calling. Open your mind just a little, will ya...



‘It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.’
Aristotle
 
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Excellent observations Jman, Below500K et al...

I'm not without some concern about the money being spent by the government, but I remain confident that my good and worthy neighbors to the south are SOOOOOOO LUCKY to have Obama at the head.... as cynical as I am, I just can't get over how truly great this guy is...
 

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Excellent observations Jman, Below500K et al...

I'm not without some concern about the money being spent by the government, but I remain confident that my good and worthy neighbors to the south are SOOOOOOO LUCKY to have Obama at the head.... as cynical as I am, I just can't get over how truly great this guy is...
He's magic didn't you know?
 

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I'm not without some concern about the money being spent by the government, but I remain confident that my good and worthy neighbors to the south are SOOOOOOO LUCKY to have Obama at the head.... as cynical as I am, I just can't get over how truly great this guy is...

I totally agree. Obama is a great man with great intellect. Meanwhile, we're stuck with Steven Harper & if he loses the next election, it won't get any better with the annoying Michael Ignatieff.
 

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All you have to do is listen to McCain talk these days to know how lucky they (and by proxy we) are. He is suffering from dementia, and is not long for this world. Then it would have been the sheBichShitForBrainsFromBumfuckMethville in charge. <shudder>
 

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CS Martin

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Here's an interesting statistic. During the Obama Administration real estate closing costs are up by 37 percent: http://www.suntimes.com/business/2603464,Closing-costs-jump.article

So, yes it will be an historic presidency. Just to be absolutely clear, this was absolutely because of the new regulations and additional paperwork levied on the industry since late last year. Only now, the public is even more confused than before.
 
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CS Martin

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Hello CS,

Would you mind changing you title from "Quebec Political Wanabe" to Dedicated Obama Basher? Whatever the truth of your posts on PRESIDENT OBAMA may be, and some of them are quite off target in my view, your pattern shows you just want to get the guy and stick it to him...my opinion only. But if you think McCain-Palin would have done better you're crazy...NOT just my opinion.

Cheers,

Merlot

Dude,

I'm sorry if the truth is more than you can handle. The subject I quoted is one I'm a recognized as an expert in by circuit & federal appeals courts. The administration on this issue is totally off base and has actually hurt the marketplace. This is my expert opinion. So on this particular subject you're full of it. As for Obama himself, no McCain would have been better. Now if you really think Obama is calling the shots, you better ask Pelosi first.

As for me redefining my profile, I don't ever remember asking you to do the same. I believe in personal freedom.
 
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CS Martin

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Hello CS,

Would you mind changing you title from "Quebec Political Wanabe" to Dedicated Obama Basher? Whatever the truth of your posts on PRESIDENT OBAMA may be, and some of them are quite off target in my view, your pattern shows you just want to get the guy and stick it to him...my opinion only. But if you think McCain-Palin would have done better you're crazy...NOT just my opinion.

The proof that you are being one-sided about how you present your case is in this, which you chose to omit from your post:

“The big rise in average closing costs may scare some home buyers, but it’s important to keep things in perspective,” Greg McBride, senior financial analyst for Bankrate.com, said in a statement. “Increased regulation on lenders’ good faith estimates means more accurate estimates and less expenses popping up for consumers on the back end.”

See, I do read the information.

http://www.suntimes.com/business/260...s-jump.article

As I guessed from your post, the rise in closing costs might actually be a positive. As pointed out in the statement I included, overall costs to own the same home could add up to be actually less...not more as your post suggests.

So naughty naughty on picking only the segments that might distort the full point of the article.

Cheers,

Merlot

M,

I'm telling you this is BS cover by the journalists. Closing costs have increased dramically under the new laws. The administration would have you believe it's due to increased accuracy. This is a neat cover story, but pure BS. What I'm telling you as a "recognized expert" in this industry is closing costs have increased dramatically. My firm has met very little resistance to significant increases in our fees. And the cost on entry for competitors into the marketplace has increased dramatically. Bottom line is the public will pay.

Example: One of our major fees has gone from an average of slightly under $300, to an average of over $400. These are facts, not published BS of the press. A transaction I would have quoted at $991 last year, I now quoted & got accepted at $1,221.35 this year.

Had you bothered to Google the facts, you wouldn't have posted your comments & Bankrate's narrow biased interpetation.

CS
 
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CS Martin

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Hello CS,

Fine. Lets suppose you know 100% and I know 0% about this. Still, the trouble here with your post on the article is you seem to want to call one part of the article BS when it counters your point, and credit only the segment that serves your point. Since I presume the article was written in entirety by the same person, either he or she is entirely credible or not. No one can have it both ways. If you want to credit one segment you must credit the purported facts of the whole article. The bottom line is the article you chose to cite proposes the public will actually save. If you think that conclusion is wrong then you chose the wrong article to use as a reference.

Good night Gracie,

Merlot

Gee Gracie, sorry you have to fall back on this weak point to try and cover yourself. Not sure where it's written where you have control of the rules of anything posted here. Nice try, Mod 8??
 
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CS Martin

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Président historique, il ne faudrait pas charrier. La seule chose d'historique c'est qu'il a reçu le prix nobel de la paix en ayant absolument rien fait uniquement car c'est un américain et que le monde leur l... le c... Mais des grandes réalisations, il n'en a pas fait plus qu'un autre. Il est juste moins pire que le semi-dictateur Geoges War Bush. Mais M. Nobel a encore des troupes occupant des territoires où ils n'ont jamais été justifiés de le faire, il y a toujours des tortures pour des prisonniers politiques et il y a énormément de racisme et de xénophobie aux E.-U. face aux Arabes

But he reads the teleprompter extremely well. Come on, give the guy some credit......
 
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