Basile Parasiris trial
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Yes he is a suspected drug dealer, I dont doubt that 1 bit.
If you're involved in illegal business you're obviously watching
over your shoulder all the time and sleeping with a gun, you never
know who and when they might come after you. If someone busts
down your door when you're sleeping you're going to come out
shooting to protect yourself and your family.
I think the way the cops handled the situation was wrong and
officer Tessier paid for it with his life. May that be a lesson to
them for the future.
If you're involved in illegal business you're obviously watching
over your shoulder all the time and sleeping with a gun, you never
know who and when they might come after you. If someone busts
down your door when you're sleeping you're going to come out
shooting to protect yourself and your family.
I think the way the cops handled the situation was wrong and
officer Tessier paid for it with his life. May that be a lesson to
them for the future.
Doc Holliday said:
What the cops should do is stop acting like thugs. Sending a dozen masked men to break into people's houses with "no knock warrants" is rarely justified.
What purpose is there in terrorizing a family by knocking down a door while everyone is asleep? Why not arrest him during a faked traffic stop or when he steps out to get his morning newspaper?
For what it's worth, I feel terrible for the police officer and his family. It's a tragedy which could have been avoided. I'm usually in favor of the death penalty for cop killers. But in this case, I predict he'll get a total walk.
I totally agree with Kepler, he is a suspected drug dealer, fine they want to
bust him but the way they went about it was totally wrong.
Well said but we know how the saying goes, more money more problems.
I dont think people like you and me sleep with loaded guns under our pillows
he had a reason to.
bust him but the way they went about it was totally wrong.
Doc Holliday said:
Well said but we know how the saying goes, more money more problems.
I dont think people like you and me sleep with loaded guns under our pillows
he had a reason to.
No way he will walk, the system will make him an example. Cop killers never get off, but he will be a hero in prison.
GTA refugee said:
Until this case, cop killers never got bail either. He did.
Doc Holliday said:
Sure. He's facing a dozen charges: first-degree murder in the death of Tessier; attempted murder in the shooting of his partner; and a bunch of other gun related accusations ("endangering the life", illegal possession, etc.)
The gun related charges he may be convicted on. He will not be convicted on the main charges though: first degree & attempted murder. In no event will he "spend the rest of his life in jail". At most a few years and he'll be out. Heck, even Bernardo may get out one day!
In any other case I'd have no problem backing this up with a cash wager, but I would find it distasteful in this case. So it will have to be an "honour bet". Good enough?
How can he be charged with killing a cop when he was shooting through a
door not knowing who was behind it?
door not knowing who was behind it?
master_bates said:
Well, again it depends if you believe his story or not.
I still wonder how he could be found guilty of first degree murder. Second degree or manslaughter, okay...but first degree? He actually might walk if he's not found guilty of first degree murder. Maybe the prosecution shouldn't have charged him with 1st & instead make sure their chances of a conviction were better with charging him with the lesser ones.
It's a tragic incident, caused by the police department executing an illegal search warrant (declared illegal by the judge). But it was so obviously self defense that the jury didn't even need to be told that the warrant was illegal to acquit him (the judge kept this secret until after they were sealed in the deliberation room.)
I hope this spells the end of US style police raids where bands of masked men storm homes in the middle of the night.
I hope this spells the end of US style police raids where bands of masked men storm homes in the middle of the night.
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His troubles has just started.
He faces other charges.
- Having in his possesion a restricted weapon.
- Not having a permit to possess a restricted weapon.
- Having in his possession a firearm not registered with the firearms registery.
- Not having a firearm in a locked box.
- Not having ammunition in a locked box away from the firearm.
- Having other restricted and illegal items and substances.
Even people with legal permits to have a pistol can not use it in their own homes even to defend themselves. He will do jail time, the other inmates will treat him like a hero.
He faces other charges.
- Having in his possesion a restricted weapon.
- Not having a permit to possess a restricted weapon.
- Having in his possession a firearm not registered with the firearms registery.
- Not having a firearm in a locked box.
- Not having ammunition in a locked box away from the firearm.
- Having other restricted and illegal items and substances.
Even people with legal permits to have a pistol can not use it in their own homes even to defend themselves. He will do jail time, the other inmates will treat him like a hero.
GTA refugee said:
This is 100% false. This case is but one example. You will not find any law or Canadian case stating otherwise.
His troubles are mostly over. Any other charges would result in nothing more than token jail time, most probably none.
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I would have lost the wager!
Like many have said in this thread, if you play with fire sometimes you get burned
I do not agree with police tactics of swarming someone’s house in the middle of the night, but why is it there is never an incident when they take down the mafia, bikers, or the natives in Kanawake who also have families?
It’s just a guess, but when you’re in that line of “work” one knows…one day to expect LE to come knocking
GTA refuge, my understanding is he can expect to spend maximum a year in jail for the gun related charges
Like many have said in this thread, if you play with fire sometimes you get burned
I do not agree with police tactics of swarming someone’s house in the middle of the night, but why is it there is never an incident when they take down the mafia, bikers, or the natives in Kanawake who also have families?
It’s just a guess, but when you’re in that line of “work” one knows…one day to expect LE to come knocking
GTA refuge, my understanding is he can expect to spend maximum a year in jail for the gun related charges
He won't even pay any fines. The warrant was declared illegal so any evidence gathered as a result of it can not be used against him in a court of law.
The only question I see remaining is whether or not he has grounds for a lawsuit against the Laval PD for unlawful entry and the damages that resulted. Not to mention pain and suffering.
The only question I see remaining is whether or not he has grounds for a lawsuit against the Laval PD for unlawful entry and the damages that resulted. Not to mention pain and suffering.
Not Sure...............
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The gun that he actually used would not be covered by the exclusion of evidence otherwise the trial would have stopped once the warrant was declared illegal and it would not have gone to the jury. Simple acquittal.
Unlawful entry - they believed the entry to be lawful as they had a warrant so the acting in good faith obstacle would be present.
Not really sure if at the end of a civil trial which could drag for 10-12 years
with appeals there would be a net financial gain.
Techman said:
Welcome back.
The gun that he actually used would not be covered by the exclusion of evidence otherwise the trial would have stopped once the warrant was declared illegal and it would not have gone to the jury. Simple acquittal.
Unlawful entry - they believed the entry to be lawful as they had a warrant so the acting in good faith obstacle would be present.
Not really sure if at the end of a civil trial which could drag for 10-12 years
with appeals there would be a net financial gain.
Hi EE! I'm not really back. Just stopped in to pick up some PMs and figured I'd do a drive by on a couple of threads while I was here.
Didn't he have a permit for the gun used in the shooting? If so it was not an illegal firearm.
And I'm sure he would be able to find a lawyer to take a civil case on a contigency basis. Even if it dragged on for 10 years if he ended up winning in the end it would still be profitable. Not to mention send a message that such cowboy cop tactics are not acceptable. But then again, I think that message has already been sent. The other question is whether or not the crown will appeal the decision, costing the taxpayers even more money to fight a losing battle all over again.
Didn't he have a permit for the gun used in the shooting? If so it was not an illegal firearm.
And I'm sure he would be able to find a lawyer to take a civil case on a contigency basis. Even if it dragged on for 10 years if he ended up winning in the end it would still be profitable. Not to mention send a message that such cowboy cop tactics are not acceptable. But then again, I think that message has already been sent. The other question is whether or not the crown will appeal the decision, costing the taxpayers even more money to fight a losing battle all over again.
Iffy................
The media, as usual, is weak on specific details. Even with a permit there are conditions as to the storage of a legal gun,loaded or unloaded and other details.
Contingency basis 30-35% plus the lawyer would want out of pocket expenses covered - filing fees, deposition costs, etc covered. He would have to fight three distinct defendants - the municipality(Laval), justice department and the police union. All with deep pockets. Doubt that a check of previous judgements against such defendants in Canada would show a significant net gain for the time spent.
Appeal - given the performance of the prosecutor, doubtful. Again details are sparse but the attempted murder charges against Mr. Parasiris for the injuries suffered by the other officer were dismissed by the judge when no evidence was presented by the crown to this effect.
Techman said:
The media, as usual, is weak on specific details. Even with a permit there are conditions as to the storage of a legal gun,loaded or unloaded and other details.
Contingency basis 30-35% plus the lawyer would want out of pocket expenses covered - filing fees, deposition costs, etc covered. He would have to fight three distinct defendants - the municipality(Laval), justice department and the police union. All with deep pockets. Doubt that a check of previous judgements against such defendants in Canada would show a significant net gain for the time spent.
Appeal - given the performance of the prosecutor, doubtful. Again details are sparse but the attempted murder charges against Mr. Parasiris for the injuries suffered by the other officer were dismissed by the judge when no evidence was presented by the crown to this effect.
Parasiris is surely guilty of weapons offences and very possibly of drug offences but this was no case of murder so the jury got that right. The "justice system" got it wrong, as it so often does. Just one more botched police operation - maybe they'll learn something from this one since it was one of their own who ended up dead and they didn't get the revenge they wanted.
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