I'm a SP giving her opinion and not afraid of sharing. I'm just fed up of hearing and reading certain things that can dirty a girl's reputation. Of course, not all girls give the best service, that's true. Some girls have a lack of class, of hygiene, and aren't made to be in this business. There's always 2 sides to the story though. Reading that a girl doesn't offer DFK when she advertises it in her ad. All her reviews clearly state she is a good provider, that she's pretty and her service is amazing... One client comes and shares about his « experience »... Well some clients do not look at themselves, they have bad breath, aren't fresh... Some have bad oral hygiene or problems with their teeth... So of course the SP won't want to kiss passionately and sensually if someone has bad breath... There's usually always mouth wash provided and is there to be used... Clients want the girls at their best, but we clearly ask for the same thing... It's too easy to hide under a fake identity on the net and to dirty someone's reputation when some people don't even look at themselves first... That to me is disgusting... Respect goes both ways... Hygiene and respect are the main in these type of encounters...
Clients dirtying a girl's reputation...
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To me when an SP is picky (won't do anything that any client wants) is a plus, it shows, among other things, that she enjoys her job. At the opposite, having no negative review is a red flag to me, no SP can make all their clients perfectly happy.
Personally I only pick girls that are listed in this forum because I know that if they were really bad, their review page would be horrible and if an escort has only 20% of bad review then she is probably very damn good.... unless of course one of those bad review is made by a known member and about something that is a big turn off for me.
The only thing I think we should worry about is false review
Personally I only pick girls that are listed in this forum because I know that if they were really bad, their review page would be horrible and if an escort has only 20% of bad review then she is probably very damn good.... unless of course one of those bad review is made by a known member and about something that is a big turn off for me.
The only thing I think we should worry about is false review
the reality is that in those cases, more than 90% of the time, it is the client's hygiene. I experienced this myself when I was an amateur and I would come in with smokers breath. never again, I wasn't introspective enough until one girl I liked a lot told me whenever she could spell the smoke, which motivated me to quit smoking for a while and improve my hygiene regiment.
I hear it from agency staff, girls, allllllllll the time. Its almost shameful the stories that I hear, being from merb.
(bad breath, funky groin, unshaven, poor diet, use of disgusting soap, acne, the nastiness goes on, who taught you to clean yourself?)
I've heard of girls being very considerate, in terms of physical appearance as well, because they understand its something you cant always control as a man.
Hygiene is 90% under your control, some of you have diseases or conditions that give you a scent, which I feel for you. However the other 90% is totally solvable.
Just imagine your ATF, and someone complaining about her shitty service, WTF right? yeah there are a lot of those clients, and most of those are bad Johns... chances are.... the client has bad hygiene or bad attitude
I am afraid that some might even feel like they don't NEED to clean because they think women are in love with them. ***shake my head***
I remember when the days when saying you were a MERB member, you were considered good, preferable, respectable, clean, gentlemen and to be treated like VIPs
sad to see that my brothers at arms have ruined this privilege over a few years.
Despite this, there was a thread started by rosedelacourt, where she wanted to know if clients would want to be told that they have bad breath. I think the majority said, honesty is better
I believe the girl should gather the courage to tell the client that something is up, this will bring him back to reality yet I am sure he can still have a good time if he decides to use some mouthwash.
I think in most cases, being honest has all the benefits. If the client decides to complain, this gives the right for the agency/girl to intervene and say "hey i even told you during the session that something was wrong", this will discourage unnecessary rants/debates that happens in women's review thread.
There are shills on this board, but what is worse is a stinky merbite going around posting bad reviews everywhere, sometimes claiming that indies are better, probably because indies have more tolerance at a higher rate. This is good practice also because the client will learn to keep up his hygiene for future bookings, thus giving him a better experience long term.
everyone do your part! more happy fucking
Agency Owner once told me:
"If yo ballz are clean, she'll suck'em"
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I think that most of us can smell out a shakedown when we see one. We also know that it is impossible to be at the top of your game 100% of the time. Your reputation can withstand these types of reviews.
I think you're underestimating clients in terms of their intelligence. Most clients will see a bad review of a given SP, and then think to themselves: " Well okay...how do the rest of their reviews compare?". We also look at who's reviewing as well, how many reviews they have to their name, whether they're credible, etc.
Also if I were to write a bad review, I'd take great care in what I say and how I say it (because a SP's livelihood is affected by this). If it's just a question of her not being my type, then that's not a big deal (because it could be someone's else type instead). But if there's intentional laziness in service, bad attitude, pictures aren't accurate, facts stated that aren't true, etc. then that's when a bad review is deserved.
Also if I were to write a bad review, I'd take great care in what I say and how I say it (because a SP's livelihood is affected by this). If it's just a question of her not being my type, then that's not a big deal (because it could be someone's else type instead). But if there's intentional laziness in service, bad attitude, pictures aren't accurate, facts stated that aren't true, etc. then that's when a bad review is deserved.
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Good point hungry. But lets say its a girl whose on the rise, she only has 1-2 pages of reviews
If it was a shakedown situation, most probably a girl from those ad websites no? I have no sympathy here.
If it happened through merb providers, wouldn't the shakedown occur due to bad hygiene, physical appearance, poor attitude? not all the time, its just that i know there are some clueless clients out there.
anyways I have a mixed view now.
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Je pense que la plupart d'entre nous (merbistes chevronnés!),sommes capable de lire entre les lignes. Si un ou deux posts sont négatifs, parmi une grande majorité de posts positifs, personnelement j'en conclut généralement un problème lié à l'hygiène, sinon, comportemental.
Personnelement je suis fumeur, et c'est le seul point négatif qui m' apporte, assez souvent, une restriction au niveau DFK/LFK. Je n'en fais aucuns cas et je me fais toujours un point de prévenir la fille lors de la prise de rendez-vous. Certaines m' affirme d'emblée que ça limite les baisers mais sinon ça ne les dérange pas plus que ça. Je n'ai jamais poster de commentaires négatifs envers les sp qui ne m'offraient pas de DFK/LFK.
Personnelement je suis fumeur, et c'est le seul point négatif qui m' apporte, assez souvent, une restriction au niveau DFK/LFK. Je n'en fais aucuns cas et je me fais toujours un point de prévenir la fille lors de la prise de rendez-vous. Certaines m' affirme d'emblée que ça limite les baisers mais sinon ça ne les dérange pas plus que ça. Je n'ai jamais poster de commentaires négatifs envers les sp qui ne m'offraient pas de DFK/LFK.
I read the whole review thread. Most of the reviews were completely positive, and the only negative in the whole thread was 2 guys complaining about the lack of kissing since DFK was advertised in her ad. This is a matter of YMMV .
To be clear, the shakedown situation I was referring to is the shakedown by a hobbyist of an agency trying to get a freebie by writing a scathing review.
Sometimes we open the door and think “Meh?” But the girl comes in and really tries.
Yes, I can see how a few bad reviews could be worse for a new girl. However, some of my best encounters were with girls that had just received a couple of bad reviews. I remember once booking an Eleganza girl (Leah) based on photos and then reading a few sketchy reviews after the fact and then calling John and saying “if I can’t eat her pussy tell her not to come.” John talked me off the ledge. Leah shows up dressed to kill. I open the door and she says “so I hear you want to eat my pussy ah?” And those words started the most wonderful experience of my adult life. There are plenty of other less notable examples I could cite.
As Charmer eluded to, the effort must be considered. If she puts forth the professional effort than I’m probably going to write a positive review and be careful couch any criticisms
Chowzilla said it right. We have to take care of our hygiene. I’ve had my moments. I have to be vigilant. We all have to be vigilant if we are going to expect anyone to kiss us or give us a BJ.
Note# if you have a stinky groin you could have a fungus. You cannot cure this with soap and water. Get a topical antifungal and you may need to be on antibiotics. All of these things can happen. You need to take yourself out of circulation and fix these things.
I've been told by my dentist that I have great teeth. I sometimes chew an entire pack of gum on my way to a meeting to provide a nice scent. And in the end I always use mouth wash after showering. I don't have bad breath days when I go see someone because I take the necessary precautions. I approach everyone I meet with patience and understanding. As a result, I believe anyone who goes as far as to advertised Dfk and subsequently does not provide it, is engaged in false advertising. If that is considered ruining someone reputation, it's unfortunate that posting honesty is taken so harshly. When I read a review stating as much, I don't take it as gospel. However, I don't competely ignore it either. I think assuming all client's who say anything negative have no self awaresness is the same as same as assuming all escorts aren't individuals whose mood or attitude can vary, which is where the YMMV can come in. The latter is a pretty important factor client's should be aware of when booking. It's certainly possible someone may have provided less because that seemed to satisfy the client as well If that is the case, it could be viewed more as miscommunication or lack thereof. To this end, it is possible it wasn't lack of enthusiam, though it may have been.
When booking someone in an agency, I adjust my expectations prior to meeting to have no DFK or no kissing because the ladies in question aren't saying themselves they engage in it.
When booking someone in an agency, I adjust my expectations prior to meeting to have no DFK or no kissing because the ladies in question aren't saying themselves they engage in it.
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Indeed Valerie, I understand the whole problem.
An SP that loses its reputation for a bad review is a disaster.
Before the pandemic I met several indies and it happened a few times to meet SP who automatically asked me to rinse my mouth. I did it with pleasure even though I had just done it in my car. And all the indies that did that was because they had customers with bad breath.
I consider the possibility of having a good meeting if I am at my best.
It's a mark of respect for my partner.
Jupiter je trouve que ton attitude est très bonne, et ta façon de fonctionner font model.
Car il faut dire que souvent même sans kissing, quand on a une mauvaise haleine ou une haleine de cigarette, ça sens.
Lol but Leah was a superstar, she was my first good escort, and I remember why i chose her, she had several pages of good reviews.
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Yes she was! But I didn’t know her at the time when I booked her. I’ll have to go back and look but there were 2 or 3 bad reviews of people that saw her just before me. John told me not to listen to those guys etc.
She was the highlight of my trip and year. We clicked. She sat in my lap stark naked drinking red wine laughing and engaged in uninhibited conversation. It was then I asked how she could ever get a bad review? She told me “some guys just try to...” (and she reached out with her hand and made a grabbing motion) “...before I even get through the door.” I could only compare her to Sexy Judy for fun and craziness and beauty. I hope she is doing well.
The point is, I think a girls rep can withstand a few bad reviews. After that date with Leah, Merbites could of written whatever the hell BS they wanted and I wouldn’t of believed it or even cared. I was a fan and a convert to Leahism.
Girls may see 4 or 5 guys a shift and let’s say they work 3 shifts a week that’s 750 sessions per year. If there are 3 or 4 neutral to bad reviews that don’t really reflect the good service and companionship that the SP truly provides, I think there will be a preponderance of evidence (other reviews, word of mouth recommendations etc) that will say otherwise.
There are cases were girls burn out. Often, guys will not dare write a bad review because of the fall out from the white knights.
She was the highlight of my trip and year. We clicked. She sat in my lap stark naked drinking red wine laughing and engaged in uninhibited conversation. It was then I asked how she could ever get a bad review? She told me “some guys just try to...” (and she reached out with her hand and made a grabbing motion) “...before I even get through the door.” I could only compare her to Sexy Judy for fun and craziness and beauty. I hope she is doing well.
The point is, I think a girls rep can withstand a few bad reviews. After that date with Leah, Merbites could of written whatever the hell BS they wanted and I wouldn’t of believed it or even cared. I was a fan and a convert to Leahism.
Girls may see 4 or 5 guys a shift and let’s say they work 3 shifts a week that’s 750 sessions per year. If there are 3 or 4 neutral to bad reviews that don’t really reflect the good service and companionship that the SP truly provides, I think there will be a preponderance of evidence (other reviews, word of mouth recommendations etc) that will say otherwise.
There are cases were girls burn out. Often, guys will not dare write a bad review because of the fall out from the white knights.
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It is actually getting to the point when you start to wonder if it is worth writing one at all.
You write a glowing review, then you get accused of shilling you write a bad review and the white knights come out in droves.
Personally I wouldn’t write a bad review unless it is an obvious bait and switch or that you were put in some kind of danger or the girl just didn’t show up without even bothering to notify you.
I have only had one small issue once which was entirely my fault. She pulled away from me and when I asked what was wrong, She put her hand on my face just under my lips ( we weren’t kissing) and said it hurts. She was right, I was so looking forward to seeing her that I didn’t shave a small portion and left quite a rough stubble. I was happy she mentioned it, I apologized we switched to another activity and it was perfect after that.
The next time I saw her I made sure I did a proper job of shaving.
For now I think I will stick to writing ladies a thank you email, which I usually do anyway if I enjoyed being with her and if it wasn’t what I expected, well I just won’t see her again, I have spent money on much worse things, a couple of hundred bucks is not going to change my life.
Honestly I don’t know how some of these ladies can consistently provide stellar service and be everything all clients expect them to be.
It really takes a special type of person, and I am really thankful for the few ladies that I see on a more or less regular basis.
For us it is easy, we have reviews, their website to read, photographs to determine how gorgeous they can be and if they appeal to us prior to choosing.
On their side they are usually looking at someone much older, perhaps not exactly in shape or Brad Pitt.
Now if they are lucky the guy is respectful, clean and treats them with a bit of kindness.
Yes they know this and obviously they are doing this for $$ but ask yourself if you would be able to do this and be everything to every strange woman walking through your door no matter how much she paid you and how she treated you.
I am willing to give the few that I may meet who don’t meet my expectations a pass, because the ones that I have found and see
more than make up for it.
Luckily the percentages work in our favour and it is not difficult at all to find gorgeous SP that you can have a fabulous time with.
Finally yes it is a review board and like the previous poster said I think most of us are smart enough to recognize honest reviews opposed to mean spirited ones.
It really takes a special type of person, and I am really thankful for the few ladies that I see on a more or less regular basis.
For us it is easy, we have reviews, their website to read, photographs to determine how gorgeous they can be and if they appeal to us prior to choosing.
On their side they are usually looking at someone much older, perhaps not exactly in shape or Brad Pitt.
Now if they are lucky the guy is respectful, clean and treats them with a bit of kindness.
Yes they know this and obviously they are doing this for $$ but ask yourself if you would be able to do this and be everything to every strange woman walking through your door no matter how much she paid you and how she treated you.
I am willing to give the few that I may meet who don’t meet my expectations a pass, because the ones that I have found and see
more than make up for it.
Luckily the percentages work in our favour and it is not difficult at all to find gorgeous SP that you can have a fabulous time with.
Finally yes it is a review board and like the previous poster said I think most of us are smart enough to recognize honest reviews opposed to mean spirited ones.
I think the vast majority of the time, they text with clients, anyway, I hope, because otherwise, it's like she didn't know she was with a client.
It happened to me often, and it was at the end of the meeting. I've never made a drama of it. They have to make their living.
On the other hand, if her service is completely rotten, it becomes annoying not to talk about things that bothered us.
Mysiteonly you have an understanding attitude, I like it a lot.
Not everyone loves spinners, again all tastes are in nature. On this site we must weigh our words not to harm.
Sorry I don’t buy this at all.
Texting other clients or friends while you are with a client is a total lack of class and respect towards your client.
If you want a client to respect you and to treat you with kindness then have the same respect for him.
I have only had this happen to me once and even then she apologized and said it was an emergency and it was her daughter and would I mind if she answered it.
Of course I didn’t she handled it with class and the proper way.
I don’t know why any SP would think it is cool or ok to text other clients during a session.
I wouldn’t make an issue of it I just wouldn’t see them again.
Texting other clients or friends while you are with a client is a total lack of class and respect towards your client.
If you want a client to respect you and to treat you with kindness then have the same respect for him.
I have only had this happen to me once and even then she apologized and said it was an emergency and it was her daughter and would I mind if she answered it.
Of course I didn’t she handled it with class and the proper way.
I don’t know why any SP would think it is cool or ok to text other clients during a session.
I wouldn’t make an issue of it I just wouldn’t see them again.
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