College admission scandal
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Well they couldn't have bribed into the graduate programs, because this was a scam based at undergraduate admissions. As for not getting into mathematics or physics... we don't know? I haven't seen any list of what majors the kids got into. We know in the case of Olivia Jade it was communications, but that's the only one we know as far as I can find.
Communications is yet another bullshit major in humanities (relations with the media etc.). It is not electrical engineering. You don’t go to mathematics or hard-core engineering courses if you don’t belong. You will be out after the first semester if you don’t have brains, previous training and don’t work your ass off during the semester. Especially in good schools. So, it useless to bribe your way in.
I came across this article from a contributor on Buzzfeed. I'm sure there are many liberals who look at this college admission scandal the same way. Those rich, white kids with the help of their parents are buying and cheating their way into colleges at the expense of deserving minority kids. You know white privilege.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...sions-scam-felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-ivy
I thought the author's terrible bias was obvious. I'm not sure her opinions stand up to critical analysis. Deserving minority students have a seat at the table guaranteed by affirmative action and diversity efforts. I believe high achieving White and Asian students from the middle and lower classes are the ones who suffered. The Asian students' case against Harvard is an example.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...sions-scam-felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-ivy
I thought the author's terrible bias was obvious. I'm not sure her opinions stand up to critical analysis. Deserving minority students have a seat at the table guaranteed by affirmative action and diversity efforts. I believe high achieving White and Asian students from the middle and lower classes are the ones who suffered. The Asian students' case against Harvard is an example.
Sambuca for me this is not at all a case of left/right or rich/poor...
As a parent I cannot really see how you can cheat like that for the benefit of your kids. What a fucking bad example are you showing to them.
I want to teach my kids that life is not only about fucking money. That the end does not justify the means. I want them to be proud, to think for themselves and to be responsible for the success and failure.
Cheating to get your kids to harvard is starting the wheel to a life of greed.
Do we really want that? Are people really that bad?
Cheers,
As a parent I cannot really see how you can cheat like that for the benefit of your kids. What a fucking bad example are you showing to them.
I want to teach my kids that life is not only about fucking money. That the end does not justify the means. I want them to be proud, to think for themselves and to be responsible for the success and failure.
Cheating to get your kids to harvard is starting the wheel to a life of greed.
Do we really want that? Are people really that bad?
Cheers,
Sorry to prick your fantasy bubble Jal....but many are worse....much much worse.
There was a study a while back where they asked people if they would steal if they had a guaranteed 100% chance of getting away with it.....70% admitted that yes they would. How many of you ,who`ve been married ,have cheated on your wife or your taxes ?
Unfortunately the "Mother Theresa" gene is recessive, while the "greed" gene has helped humanity to survive and in some cases prosper.
Jalimon, for some it might be about greed. I think for most of them it's about prestige. Some of these families are financially set for a couple generations regardless of their children's income potential.
Many of these parents want people to believe that their children are smart and successful no matter how that's accomplished. The right school for your children is like the right country club. In some ways, Lori Loughlin wanted her social media savvy daughter to be more than a Kardashian.
Many of these parents want people to believe that their children are smart and successful no matter how that's accomplished. The right school for your children is like the right country club. In some ways, Lori Loughlin wanted her social media savvy daughter to be more than a Kardashian.
Those are the same quotes that were parroted in a number of reports. Other experts have said that under federal sentencing guidelines they could receive small jail sentences. Loughlin and her husband are looking at more time than Huffman due to huge difference in the monetary size of the bribe. Their sentences could be a lot longer for this reason. What I read on Loughlin was 20-24 month range.
This one says 37-46 months on Loughlin if convicted and 27-33 months on a plea:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...il-possible-prison-time-college-1362253?amp=1
That sounds like it might be on the higher side and 20-24 months more likely on a plea.
Huffman is looking at less time.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...il-possible-prison-time-college-1362253?amp=1
That sounds like it might be on the higher side and 20-24 months more likely on a plea.
Huffman is looking at less time.
I assume that Olivia Jade is fearful of jail time because she was copied on her parents emails and had constructive notice of the illegality of the scheme:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...arful-jail-lori-loughlin-daughter-hiding/amp/
They didn’t charge her because the threat of doing so will be used as leverage to extract pleas from her parents. This should be clear, and is excellent strategy by the US Attorney.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...arful-jail-lori-loughlin-daughter-hiding/amp/
They didn’t charge her because the threat of doing so will be used as leverage to extract pleas from her parents. This should be clear, and is excellent strategy by the US Attorney.
If the prosecution actually needed Olivia Jade’s testimony to prove the case against the parents they would never have charged the parents in the first place. The case against the parents will be proved through the testimony of the cooperating witness, wiretap evidence, and the paper trail on the money as well as the fake photos and applications submitted and correspondence to and from the parents with the cooperating witnesses.
The real possibility of Olivia Jade being prosecuted will be used to extract guilty pleas. Although she was complicit in the scheme the strategy was to go after the leaders and use the threat of prosecutions on those who were complicit.
Criminal defendants do not get to pay their way out of a prosecution and the US Attorney stated very clearly in his press conference there will not be one system of college admissions for the wealthy and another for everyone else, nor will there be a different system of criminal justice for the wealthy, although the reality is that they can pay more money on their legal defense. The chances of payments to charity getting rid of these cases are zero.
That may be a solution in the civil cases however, and those cases coule have the same result (establishment of scholarships or funding of scholarships for those who need them).
The real possibility of Olivia Jade being prosecuted will be used to extract guilty pleas. Although she was complicit in the scheme the strategy was to go after the leaders and use the threat of prosecutions on those who were complicit.
Criminal defendants do not get to pay their way out of a prosecution and the US Attorney stated very clearly in his press conference there will not be one system of college admissions for the wealthy and another for everyone else, nor will there be a different system of criminal justice for the wealthy, although the reality is that they can pay more money on their legal defense. The chances of payments to charity getting rid of these cases are zero.
That may be a solution in the civil cases however, and those cases coule have the same result (establishment of scholarships or funding of scholarships for those who need them).
If William H. Macy’s marriage is on the rocks as per this report, good chance the arguments might be about why Huffman issued the bribe check:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.et...rain-amid-college-cheating-scandal-source?amp
That they would have separate checking accounts is odd. Not usually the case with married people. The only conclusion I can derive as to why Macy was not charged is that there is no money trail to him and the only wiretaps on him led to the aborted second attempted bribe for the other daughter. Huffman is probably thinking that she is doing the time and going down for something he is complicit in, and can’t be happy about it. Next time make him pay the bill, I guess. I would be interested in knowing the conversation that preceded the Huffman issuance of the $15,000 check. No doubt that conversation is being replayed in these arguments.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.et...rain-amid-college-cheating-scandal-source?amp
That they would have separate checking accounts is odd. Not usually the case with married people. The only conclusion I can derive as to why Macy was not charged is that there is no money trail to him and the only wiretaps on him led to the aborted second attempted bribe for the other daughter. Huffman is probably thinking that she is doing the time and going down for something he is complicit in, and can’t be happy about it. Next time make him pay the bill, I guess. I would be interested in knowing the conversation that preceded the Huffman issuance of the $15,000 check. No doubt that conversation is being replayed in these arguments.
Who cares about incarceration. They should be humiliated because they are scumbag cheater with no life value. They should be force to make a public apology to their kid.
That's it.
Fuck them.
Cheers,
I've wondered about that myself. The FBI has historically investigated bribery especially if it involved consumer fraud. I think we can say this is an aspect of consumer fraud broadly described as mail and wire fraud under U.S. law.
The FBI revealed a scandal in 2017 involving a Adidas rep bribing college basketball players and programs to wear Adidas shoes. In that case, I never understood why the FBI was investigating and enforcing the NCAA's (an association) amateur rules. It still be might be questioned in court if the FBI had jurisdiction.
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