College admission scandal

[sambuca]

Bunch of dogooders with a guilty conscience coming up with these programs that don’t benefit anyone.

I'm not sure you can say they don't benefit anyone. Affirmative Action has been quite successful in advancing minorities in institutional environments. However, the system certainly has had it's flaws. It didn't take long after its introduction for liberal professors to create a two way grading system on college campuses. Minority students naturally gravitated toward "qualitative" coursework in the liberal arts programs where grading was more subjective and away from STEM coursework.

I believe the "Gentlemen's C" has likely morphed into the "Gentlemen's B". Can I still use the word Gentlemen?

 

[GaryH]

"Olivia Jade Giannulli blames her parents for ‘ruining her life. ’ Olivia Jade Giannulli, 19, is “really angry with her parents because she told them she did not want to go to college and she was pushed,” a source told Entertainment Tonight.

Giannulli — a social media influencer who vlogged her daily life including makeup routines and USC dorm room tours for her 2 million YouTube subscribers — at first tried to brush off the scandal, but became angry with her parents when her endorsement deals with Sephora, TRESemmé and Estée Lauder were cancelled, according to a report.

“Now that her endorsement deals have fallen through she is very upset with her parents,” a source told Us Weekly. “Olivia blames her mom and dad for this scandal and for the downfall of her career.”

The source noted that Giannulli did not have an interest in college, “but her parents were the ones who wanted her to get an education,” the outlet reported. The feds say she didn’t even fill out her own college application."

When people speak about "spoiled children", she should be the lead example. Blames her parents for the downfall of her career? What Video blogging?

 

[EagerBeaver]

Lori Loughlin is cooked professionally for the reasons you mentioned. All of her characters going back to her early 20s were straight arrow, morally “pure” good girls who did “the right thing”. With her wholesome good looks, she played those parts well. Nobody will ever see her as credible again in these kinds of roles, which she has long been typecast to play. Reading some of the comments in the articles on her Hallmark termination confirm that the viewers of those programs all had viewed her that way and were shocked by her behavior.

She was paying not for a real education of her kids, but for pieces of paper her daughters could wave around, saying they were elite. In my mind it sends a message to the kid that she had no confidence in her to advance on her own merits. Real parents who love their kids pay for tutors or remedial help when they are lacking the grades. Or they suck it up, and pay for them to go to “lesser” schools like ASU (which Mossimo thought was beneath Olivia Jade), and let her prove herself there, stand on her own 2 feet and then get her degree there based on merit. Or not. This was an easy way to pull the kid by the umbilical cord into unearned privilege, rather than cut it and let her prove herself. Which some kids need.

Huffman on the other hand is a more versatile actress who has played different roles, and has a better chance of emerging unscathed. She is also looking at much less or no jail time due to the minuscule amount of the bribe in comparison.

 

[sambuca]

When people speak about "spoiled children", she should be the lead example. Blames her parents for the downfall of her career? What Video blogging?

Her beautiful mother Lori Loughlin passed on to her a beautiful face.
Her rich father Mossimo bought her a great pair of tits.
Together Lori and Mossimo have passed on celebrity and they will pass on a fortune to their daughters.

Olivia Jade would've just been another sorority girl attending college in relative obscurity otherwise.

 

[GaryH]

No one would have ever heard of Olivia Jade if it wasn't for her parents fame and wealth. She wouldn't be endorsing products on video if she was born to Mr. and Mrs. Nobody in Chicopee Falls Wisconsin. Just like Paris Hilton and the Kardashians and the Jenners. Their wealth and fame and so called success is due to who they were born to. It doesn't take a lot of effort to smile when a camera is on you. I don't know what type of entrepreneurial risk anyone of them took. There is an upside but no financial downside for them.

On a side note, I had a buddy who worked in the admissions office of one of the elite Eastern colleges. Every year some celebrity would try to get one of their kids into the school . One year Mel Gibson and his wife brought one of their daughters to the school for a visit. My friend said that Mel and his wife asked plenty of questions about the school, but the daughter looked absolutely bored and obviously had no interest in going to school there. I don't think that attitude is out of the ordinary to kids born into wealth.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Dr. Dre: My girl got into USC "all on her own":

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/a...n-her-own-2019-03-24?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

 

[sambuca]

Straight outta Brentwood!

 

[EagerBeaver]

Yale announced this morning that it has rescinded one admission. They didn’t identify the rescindee, but it could very well be the daughter of the tipster who reported that the soccer coach had taken a bribe to say his daughter was a soccer recruit, when she wasn’t.

 

[EagerBeaver]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...ent-connected-to-college-cheating-scheme.html

 

[GaryH]

Dr. Dre: My girl got into USC "all on her own":

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/a...n-her-own-2019-03-24?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

EB,

So he took the post down. But it doesn't stop the mob from posting hate messages on his instagram. What makes people want to send out so much hate? The girl does look nice though.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bm7Mgccng3l/?utm_source=ig_embed

 

[EagerBeaver]

Dr. Dre’s daughter is a smokeshow but hope that isn’t the reason she got in.

Regarding the student Yale rescinded, CNN is reporting that her parents paid $1.2 million to Singer. Singer gave $400,000 to the Yale women’s soccer coach and told him to designate her as a recruit. Which he did. Singer then pocketed the remaining $800,000, retaining the lion’s share of the bribe. Yale discovered she doesn’t play soccer and was never legitimately recruited to play soccer and didn’t play soccer.

She isn’t being named by Yale, presumably to protect her from the vicious cyber bullying Loughlin’s daughters are getting.

 

[GaryH]

Bravo to Yale for protecting the girl. No reason she should be bullied for her parent's mistake. I wish the other schools involved could have protected the names of the kids involved. As we have seen in other cases, cyber bullying can be deadly.

 

[EagerBeaver]

In truth, I don’t think Yale can comment on the academic status of a particular identified student anyway, but in this case it could certainly lead to Yale being sued by the student in question for negligently subjecting the student to widespread ridicule and scorn and humiliation. It would be almost de facto defamatory.

I would be interested to know how she did academically and socially at Yale, and whether her application had merit but for the misinformation. Something tells me the parents paid $1.2 million only because they were utterly without confidence in her ability to get into Yale of her own accord and merit.

I would also like to know from Rick Singer in Court how he was able to sort out the bribers from those who just wanted legal and above board guidance and advice, like Phil Mickelson and Joe Montana (according to their respective statements on the matter of their dealings with Singer). Did Singer identify the kids whose academic record was such that a bribe was needed to get in to the target school? The transcript of the tape on Olivia Jade suggested Singer thought she had no shot at admission to USC without shady deals being made. Did he make such determinations in every case?

 

[Valcazar]

"Something tells me the parents paid $1.2 million only because they were utterly without confidence in her ability to get into Yale of her own accord and merit."

I am not so sure. You don't get into Yale or other Elite schools on academic merit unless you are a strange prodigy of some kind. You get in because you have all the other credentials (sports, extracurriculars, etc.) Academically, schools like Harvard and Yale are not difficult. Most people get A's - you proved yourself by getting in. Getting in gives you the prestige name on the CV, it gives you contacts to the people who are going to give you a leg up later, etc Someone who can't cut it isn't going to be nearly as motivated as someone who could make it once inside, but isn't going to get in because they didn't pay Lacrosse.

 

[Valcazar]

Dunking on Jade just seems petty.

 

[EagerBeaver]

It’s a reference to the fact that she was copied on the emails memorializing some of the duplicitous details. You get an email that schemes a fraud committed in your name and don’t put the kabosh on it, you endorse it and own it.

Olivia Jade might still get charged. She signed a fraudulent college application, and we shouldn’t really feel sorry for her.

 

[sambuca]

On the bright side, maybe we will find Olivia Jade on SA under an alias in a few years.

 

[Valcazar]

One interesting thing is that the big splash this made has opened up the floodgates on the bribery in other places, like Harvard. It looks like the dad bought both sons in as Harvard fencers (the story focuses on the younger son, but there appears to be a bribe for the older one as well.

The older kid graduated with high marks in Statistics - he was a hard core math nerd. The younger kid hasn't picked a major yet. (You don't need to immediately at Harvard.) Real fencers, excellent grades in STEM fields, but still people paying bribes to get them in.

 

[EagerBeaver]

It’s possible or even likely that Caplan will lose his law licenses in Connecticut and New York. Paul Manafort was just disbarred in CT due to his felony convictions. It’s not clear what Caplan is pleading guilty to except that it’s a crime involving fraud and dishonesty. Usually any conviction for a crime involving fraud or dishonesty means an automatic suspension or disbarment, which of course is in addition to the fact that his law firm already terminated his employment and partnership.

I think in a lot of these cases the parents like to brag about their children and children with 22 ACTs just doesn’t cut the mustard in Caplan’s world. The children in effect are used as status like cars, boats and expensive watches. A 22 ACT kid is a fucking Hyundai Elantra. A 32 ACT kid going to Georgetown or Harvard is a BMW or Mercedes Benz. It’s all about status. What her kid actually wanted in life was quite likely an irrelevant consideration. She had to manifest his status, didn’t cut the mustard in doing so, and his exposed attempt to turn a Hyundai student into a BMW just cost him his career.

 

[Valcazar]

^^^ True. We don't even know what the girl wanted. She's a junior, and those 22s were in practice tests and this was her first real test. She still had time to get better (people take ACTs as juniors so they can take it more than once and get better scores as seniors). I'm glad the article made it sound like he admitted he had lost his kid's respect.