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To clear all confusion and false expectation, please look at this site. In Quebec, among other targets, men under 26 can have the vaccine free of charge if they expect to have sex with other men.

https://www.quebec.ca/en/health/health-issues/stbbis/human-papillomavirus-hpv/

Le même lien donne aussi toute l'information en français. Il suffit de cliquer pour la langue en haut à droite.
 

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If you have received the HPV vaccination(s), and you are later exposed via a sex worker to the HPV strains that these vaccinations protect against (so you have protection), can you still be a transmission vector afterword to your partner ? I'm thinking yes, because the virus can still be on your skin, and so can be transferred to another person, just like any virus. So, if you wash yourself thoroughly, to what extent would that eliminate the threat of passing this virus to another person ?
 

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Thoroughly showering should do the job. Is it 100% proof? No! Probably 99,999%. Those virus do not sruvive long on your skin. They are hidden within your cells. The transmission goes via lesions or micro-lesions. A virus of the same family (herpes simplex) produce the cole sore (feu sauvage). Once you get it, you may have it for life, hidden within your lips (in your cells). UV may activated the virus and then you feel it and you are contagious. You may stop the replication of the virus by using immediately an antiviral. For the genital herpes it is difficult to know when you are contagious and you are more at risk if you practice anal sex because it usually more "traumatic" (causing mini-lesions) than oral or vaginal sex. Wearing condom helps a lot to reduce the risk.
 

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If you have received the HPV vaccination(s), and you are later exposed via a sex worker to the HPV strains that these vaccinations protect against (so you have protection), can you still be a transmission vector afterword to your partner ? I'm thinking yes, because the virus can still be on your skin, and so can be transferred to another person, just like any virus. So, if you wash yourself thoroughly, to what extent would that eliminate the threat of passing this virus to another person ?
Just FYI, the vaccine (Gardasil 9) protects only against the 9 most common and dangerous variants of HPV. There are over 100 different known variants of HPV and every sex worker you encounter will already have a whole zoo of them (regardless of what they might think or tell you...). Over time, you are practically guaranteed to pick up a couple of those HPV variants yourself and pass them on to your partner. However, most people never develop any serious symptoms because usually a healthy and strong immune system completely, or at least almost completely, suppresses these viruses. Same as for Herpes.
 
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Over time, you are practically guaranteed to pick up a couple of those HPV variants yourself and pass them on to your partner. However, most people never develop any serious symptoms because usually a healthy and strong immune system completely, or at least almost completely, suppresses these viruses. Same as for Herpes.

I agree with your first sentence above but not totally with your second. HPV causes some cancers, most notably throat cancer. Last year I watched one of my work colleagues die, rather horribly, of throat cancer that had spread to his lungs. The last few years of his life were in and out of hospitals, receiving brutal chemo/radiation regimens that nearly killed him themselves, then when the cancer spread to his lungs it kind of slowly suffocated him to death over a period of months. I last saw him around 36 hours before he passed away and the end was not pretty.

At the time he was diagnosed he told me that because it was a cancer caused by HPV rather than a carcinogen, his prognosis was good, but it did not turn out well for him. He was in his late 60s but during his life had 3 wives and numerous GFs in between.
 

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Yeah, totally, of course it can end badly. I’m sorry to hear what happened to your work colleague. That’s exactly why everybody should get that vaccine, to reduce the risk as much as possible, for themselves and others. What you are describing is still not the normal thing to happen though, most people never develop any symptoms, ever.
 

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Just FYI, the vaccine (Gardasil 9) protects only against the 9 most common and dangerous variants of HPV. There are over 100 different known variants of HPV and every sex worker you encounter will already have a whole zoo of them (regardless of what they might think or tell you...). Over time, you are practically guaranteed to pick up a couple of those HPV variants yourself and pass them on to your partner. However, most people never develop any serious symptoms because usually a healthy and strong immune system completely, or at least almost completely, suppresses these viruses. Same as for Herpes.

hmmv hpv depending on the strain may show up as warts. perhaps nothing more, depending on the strain? once you burn them off the virus however is in your body. as you say, surpressed by immune system.

but does that suggest if you grow elderly, with then weakened immune, do those warts flare up?
 
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