Coronavirus

[bonerland citizen]

4 minutes before 10pm tonight in Montreal -

Holy crap. I am almost in disbelief. To see it enforced rather than it be just an understanding of the rule while I sit at home.
USA tourists will be making that final decision to cancel any planned trip here after seeing this.

"Thank you for eliminating the propagation of covid19" have a nice day. Wtf

 

[sene5hos]

Saturday January 1:
USA:
+ 161 k new cases
273 dead

Sunday January 2:
USA:
+ 287 k new cases
232 dead

 

[gaby]

Ontario...Doug Ford...ce jour...autres mesures annoncées,

-pas de couvre-feu et rassemblements intérieurs réduits à 5 personnes et 10 à l'extérieur.

-autres mesures semblables au Québec.......fermeture pour 21 jours des restos/bars/cinémas/gyms

 

[sene5hos]

Aujoud'hui au Québec:

1,396 Hospitalisations.

11602 travailleurs (ses) de la santé sont absents à cause de la covid.

Beaucoup de délestage à venir. Juste dans la région de vieille capitale, il y aura 300 reports de chirurgie par semaine.

 

[minutemenX]

 

[gallantca]

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So I hope you're listening to the scientists

 

[EagerBeaver]

I went for probably my 20th Covid swab test this morning since March 2020. I must say the Covid technician was very, very aggressive with the swab, sticking it in violent, corkscrewing thrusts up each nostril. It was really annoying, it seemed like Covid testing with extra aggression except I didn't pay for or order the extra aggression. Anyway I am waiting on the results.

 

[minutemenX]

So I hope you're listening to the scientists

I will take your advice to heart and will indeed listen to myself . I know exponential function all to well. Though it looks scarry, it reaches saturation point pretty fast. So, sit tight and ride the storm. All this governmental bustle is for political reasons only and is pretty much useless at this stage.

 

[Fradi]

All the scientists said get vaccinated and your chances of getting Covid and being hospitalized are 70- 94% reduced.
In September you were x9 times as likely to get covid and x36 times as likely to end up in the hospital

Today it is 0.7 and 8.5 so maybe it is time to realize that the vaccine passport is a useless piece of garbage and you are much more likely to end up in the hospital also than before and almost as likely to be infected by a vaccinated person as an unvaccinated
Perhaps it is time to focus on why the fuck our government did nothing to improve the health care situation, did zilch to add hospital beds, hire nurses or bring in doctors.
They didn’t even have the foresight to purchase enough N95 masks for the population or to provide rapid test kits
This whole idea of making an appointment with the pharmacy for non existing kits is a total joke.
We all have a mail box most have community mailboxes how difficult would it have been to drop a kit in every addresses mail box. They seem to have no problem dropping propaganda to vote for them in your mail box or your front door and staple to every lamp posts but for Covid test kits which may save lives we have to make an appointment.
Of course the answer is curfews and lock downs lol all will be well in Yo YO Lego land.

 

[minutemenX]

Actually scientists warned from the very beginning that vaccines would eventually become useless with sufficient number of virus mutations. This what is happening with Omicron. But the governments continue to press with vaccinations etc. This is an old trick and goes back to the down of human civilization. When shaman danced for rain and the drought continued, shaman blamed people for not praying hard enough. When it eventually rained, all credits went to him

 

[EagerBeaver]

Actually scientists warned from the very beginning that vaccines would eventually become useless with sufficient number of virus mutations. This what is happening with Omicron.

This is kind of obvious as to what is happening. The government is behaving like there will be no more mutations when the overwhelming evidence is that Covid will mutate again, and again, and again, rendering all vaccinations as useless small band-aids placed over a large wound to try and stop the bleeding.

 

[Fradi]

This is kind of obvious as to what is happening. The government is behaving like there will be no more mutations when the overwhelming evidence is that Covid will mutate again, and again, and again, rendering all vaccinations as useless small band-aids placed over a large wound to try and stop the bleeding.

Perhaps not all evidence from Israel is that the 4th dose is the magic formula.
If not, well apparently Yo Yo Lego is working on a plan of giving everyone a free pizza after your 8th booster shot as an incentive, you will be able to enjoy it all locked away as there will be a permanent curfew and all stores, borders will be closed.
Press conference daily at 6pm that everyone will have to show evidence that they watched as police will be making house calls and issuing fines.

 

[gallantca]

All the scientists said get vaccinated and your chances of getting Covid and being hospitalized are 70- 94% reduced.
In September you were x9 times as likely to get covid and x36 times as likely to end up in the hospital

Today it is 0.7 and 8.5 so maybe it is time to realize that the vaccine passport is a useless piece of garbage and you are much more likely to end up in the hospital also than before and almost as likely to be infected by a vaccinated person as an unvaccinated

You may want to read the fine print on those claims. Especially today since someone over 60 (I think you are), your chance is much less than x9.

A few days ago 65% of cases were people over 60 and 80% of them were vaxxed.
However 35% were under 60 and 20% of them were vaxxed. In other words if they were vaxed we would get over 30% more capacity.

In other words, vaccines keep the younger out of hospitals and leave room for the elder who have less severe forms but still may need oxygen.

When they were making the wild claims of 36x, the younger were making up for a large percentage of a small number of cases in hospital. Very misleading.
Which is why I would never trust a number interpreted by the one of the 3 amigos.

 

[sene5hos]

Des influenceurs d’ici dans un sérieux pétrin pour un party en avion

Des influenceurs québécois risquent des amendes salées et d’être bannis de compagnies aériennes après avoir enfreint des règles de l’aviation.

www.tvanouvelles.ca

A COVID party, when I think of hospital staff.

Passengers who smoke electronic cigarettes in the cabin, others who drink their personal bottles of alcohol, dancing without masks and even sexual acts in the air, this is the ordeal experienced by flight attendants on December 30th.

According to our information, around 100 people boarded the Sunwing company plane.
The aircraft had been chartered by a private club that organized a trip from Montreal to Cancun, Mexico to celebrate New Year's Day ... far from Quebec sanitary measures.

I hope for severe penalties.

 

[Fradi]

You may want to read the fine print on those claims. Especially today since someone over 60 (I think you are), your chance is much less than x9.

A few days ago 65% of cases were people over 60 and 80% of them were vaxxed.
However 35% were under 60 and 20% of them were vaxxed. In other words if they were vaxed we would get over 30% more capacity.

In other words, vaccines keep the younger out of hospitals and leave room for the elder who have less severe forms but still may need oxygen.

When they were making the wild claims of 36x, the younger were making up for a large percentage of a small number of cases in hospital. Very misleading.
Which is why I would never trust a number interpreted by the one of the 3 amigos.

So in other words if you are over 60 forget about the vaccine because you are fucked anyway, is that what you are getting at.
Gives great confidence in the vaccine doesn’t it.
So we are right back to putting the elderly on unused cruise ships and floating them out to sea, problem solved and the rest can all get back to living again. No more curfews, hope Yo Yo Lego doesn’t read this.

 

[gallantca]

So in other words if you are over 60 forget about the vaccine because you are fucked anyway, is that what you are getting at.
Gives great confidence in the vaccine doesn’t it.
So we are right back to putting the elderly on unused cruise ships and floating them out to sea, problem solved and the rest can all get back to living again. No more curfews, hope Yo Yo Lego doesn’t read this.

No. Listening to docs in hospitals the older are not staying for weeks, before going to ICU before dying.
They require a little oxygen and move on after a few days.
The young need to get vaccinated to not be hospitalized to leave room for those that need it. The older raise their odds by being vaccinated.

 

[Fradi]

Des influenceurs d’ici dans un sérieux pétrin pour un party en avion

Des influenceurs québécois risquent des amendes salées et d’être bannis de compagnies aériennes après avoir enfreint des règles de l’aviation.

www.tvanouvelles.ca

A COVID party, when I think of hospital staff.

Passengers who smoke electronic cigarettes in the cabin, others who drink their personal bottles of alcohol, dancing without masks and even sexual acts in the air, this is the ordeal experienced by flight attendants on December 30th.

According to our information, around 100 people boarded the Sunwing company plane.
The aircraft had been chartered by a private club that organized a trip from Montreal to Cancun, Mexico to celebrate New Year's Day ... far from Quebec sanitary measures.

I hope for severe penalties.

This must be a mistake I can’t see Quebecers doing this, must have been a Republican charter flight and they got the information wrong.

 

[Fradi]

No. Listening to docs in hospitals the older are not staying for weeks, before going to ICU before dying.
They require a little oxygen and move on after a few days.
The young need to get vaccinated to not be hospitalized to leave room for those that need it. The older raise their odds by being vaccinated.

I think you are inventing these stories to keep your illusion alive. So who are the 14 or 15 that are dying daily pray tell.
Statistics seem to be fine with you when they reflect your views, when they show the opposite you try to dissect it to disprove them. Like a dog with a bone that doesn’t want to let go lol.

Just a few months ago if there were a few break through cases with the vaccinated it made headlines.
Now vaxed people are getting infected by the thousands and are the majority in hospitals ( yes they are the majority of the population nobody is disputing that).
Vaccines are no where near as effective with the Omicron as they were with other variants so let’s stop this nonsense and excuses it is what it is.
Yes I still believe I have a better chance with the vaccines and that is the reason I have had all three shots, but I have always been a realist and reality is that eventually I will probably end up getting this shit no matter how many shots they pump into my arm.

 

[gallantca]

I think you are inventing these stories to keep your illusion alive. So who are the 14 or 15 that are dying daily prey tell.
Statistics seem to be fine with you when they reflect your views, when they show the opposite you try to dissect it to disprove them. Like a dog with a bone that doesn’t want to let go lol.

Just a few months ago if there were a few break through cases with the vaccinated it made headlines.
Now vaxed people are getting infected by the thousands and are the majority in hospitals ( yes they are the majority of the population nobody is disputing that).
Vaccines are no where near as effective with the Omicron as they were with other variants so let’s stop this nonsense and excuses it is what it is.
Yes I still believe I have a better chance with the vaccines and that is the reason I have had all three shots, but I have always been a realist and reality is that eventually I will probably end up getting this shit no matter how many shots they pump into my arm.

You sound like a person that is pissed off the vaccine is not a silver bullet that is going to cure cancer and solve world hunger.

Spoiler alert : it's not.

 

[Fradi]

You sound like a person that is pissed off the vaccine is not a silver bullet that is going to cure cancer and solve world hunger.

Spoiler alert : it's not.

No not in the least I am a realist. It would be nice however that it would do what it was intended for.
What pisses me off are people coming up with all kinds of arguments to try and disprove reality that is starring them in the face. I have been trying to tell you exactly that, that the vaccines are not a silver bullet not even close. They were effective against some strains but less and less with the newer ones.
I have lived through much worse than this pandemic and it doesn’t scare me nearly as much as you think.