Coronavirus

[IamNY]

Interesting article from CNN about the extended border crossing:

Covid-19 built a 'northern wall' between the US and Canada and it could stay up longer than anyone expected
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/covid-wall-canada-us-trnd/index.html

 

[The Nature Boy]

And it was paid for by 180,000 lives

 

[IamNY]

^^^^Cleary didn’t read the article. But it was a good knee jerk response.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Just read it. Think my statement still holds meaning. That “wall” between Canada and USA was not an intentional one like the one trump wants with Mexico. It’s not an actual wall but it does exist and it is @ expense of all the infections and deaths in USA. If USA had a comparable infection rate comparable to Canada would the border still be closed?

 

[IamNY]

^^^^Good argument, I'm just happy that you read the article. I would say that the border would still be closed if we had comparable infection rates. Leaders want to be in control, even at the expense of people losing everything, monetarily everything.

 

[ssj3]

This is a very interesting read for those of you that are more scientifically inclined. Instead of a cytokine storm, it looks like it might be a bradykinin one instead. Effectively, covid acts a lot like an ACE inhibitor does but at deadly levels.

https://elemental.medium.com/a-supe...ing-new-theory-has-emerged-31cb8eba9d63?gi=sd

 

[cloudsurf]

Thanks for the fascinating read ssj3. Who would have known that this virus could cause so many complex reactions in our bodies. Now a lot of the reported symptoms are starting to make sense.

 

[Numerati]

Canada to extend it's international travel ban:

Canada extends international travel ban to September 30

Canada extended a measure barring most foreign travelers from entering the country amid continued efforts to limit the introduction and spread of the coronavirus, Public Safety Minister Bill Blair said on Friday on Twitter.

www.reuters.com

Smart move. With the U.S. maybe extend it to Spring 2021 if the current administration wins a second term. I mean we got this Scott Atlas furthering this pandemic shit show.

As for India darn country can't even get the toilet thing right don't think they can deal with the complexities of this pandemic. Also that country is run by their version of the right wing nut job administration.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

^^^^^^ Would you really take this?
No and my reasoning is it was made too quickly, supposedly mutated a couple of times, finding new side effects almost monthly.
This virus that wiped out 0.0025% of the entire Canadian population in 6 months, of those 95% were above 70 yrs older.
So chances of dying from this if under 70 and semi healthy is 5% of 0.0025%.
I will wait and see for a year if needed or not.

 

[sene5hos]

Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson says he, his family have recovered from coronavirus | Watch News Videos Online

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Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson says he, his family have recovered from coronavirus.

 

[TheJames101]

Yes, I would take it now. I think the science of vaccines is a lot, lot better today than it was in the 1950s.

What We Know About the C.D.C.’s Covid-19 Vaccine Plans

The agency told public health agencies that two unidentified vaccines might be ready by October or November. We explain how vaccine trials work, when one might be ready, and who may get them first.

www.nytimes.com

I'm not sure that reputable scientists have said that Oct is realistic. This seems more like a Trump political stunt.

 

[IamNY]

I'm not sure that reputable scientists have said that Oct is realistic. This seems more like a Trump political stunt.

Is Dr. Fauci reputable enough?

Dr. Fauci says it’s ‘conceivable’ to have COVID-19 vaccine by October

Dr. Anthony Fauci said Thursday that it’s “conceivable” a COVID-19 vaccine could arrive as early as October — though the end of the year is more likely to see a breakthrough devel…

nypost.com

 

[The Nature Boy]

^^^^^^ Would you really take this?
No and my reasoning is it was made too quickly, supposedly mutated a couple of times, finding new side effects almost monthly.
This virus that wiped out 0.0025% of the entire Canadian population in 6 months, of those 95% were above 70 yrs older.
So chances of dying from this if under 70 and semi healthy is 5% of 0.0025%.
I will wait and see for a year if needed or not.

I can’t see any vaccine being offered premature in Canada

 

[TheJames101]

Is Dr. Fauci reputable enough?

Dr. Fauci says it’s ‘conceivable’ to have COVID-19 vaccine by October

Dr. Anthony Fauci said Thursday that it’s “conceivable” a COVID-19 vaccine could arrive as early as October — though the end of the year is more likely to see a breakthrough devel…

nypost.com

Certainly he is. Many things are conceivable - he's not taking it off the table, but he - like most others acknowledge it's unlikely.

 

[Fradi]

Is Dr. Fauci reputable enough?

Dr. Fauci says it’s ‘conceivable’ to have COVID-19 vaccine by October

Dr. Anthony Fauci said Thursday that it’s “conceivable” a COVID-19 vaccine could arrive as early as October — though the end of the year is more likely to see a breakthrough devel…

nypost.com

I don’t know is he?
Wasn’t he one of the many that said masks are not necessary and may be even more harmful as it might make you have a false sense of safety.
I get very sceptical of a supposed infection expert who bows to pressure from above and doesn’t have the guts to quit and tell the truth to protect the people and his integrity.
Is he telling the truth this time?

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

^^^^^We had Tamm say the same in Canada, first no masks then the big Ooops.
They flip flop to pressure very easily. Same as the 98% climate scientists agree BS.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

I can’t see any vaccine being offered premature in Canada

From what I read a few days ago Canada already secured 72 million doses from somewhere, POS thinks every Canadian will get 2 doses. Fat chance of that happening.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Wonder who they bought it from? Buying one thing, distributing to general populations is another. Cant see Canada dishing out to non 1st responders before end of year. Truth be told, all the shit the media is complaining about trump trying to push a vaccine out by Election Day is kinda bullshit in both ways.
1. Trump is using this for sure to get votes. Not mentioning that those 1st doses will be given to 1st responders 1st before anyone
2. The media’s not mentioning this has been in talks for ages that if there’s overwhelming data in the next few weeks that the vaccine is safe and is preventing infection that they can go ahead and distribute to 1st responders. This is not new. These f’ers Are just not reporting it that way. And trump is trying to put his spin on it.

 

[sene5hos]

COVID-19: le Canada conclut deux nouvelles ententes pour de futurs vaccins

Ces ententes s'ajoutent à celles déjà conclues avec Pfizer Canada et avec la pharmaceutique américaine Moderna.

www.journaldemontreal.com

Ottawa has signed two new agreements in principle with the companies Johnson & Johnson and Novavax for the production and distribution of future vaccines against COVID-19.
These agreements are in addition to those already concluded with Pfizer Canada - which works with BioNTech in Germany - and with the American pharmaceutical company Moderna. These two vaccine candidates are in their third phase of testing.

Actually the Moderna RNA, never tested on human, or any other non-RNA vaccin.
It's a another question.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Just remember, this is not a " you will not get the virus " vaccine, it will be just like the flu vaccine with a 70% success rate I assume. Will 30% of the population even get infected.