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Congratulations to the Liberals, next will be Harper and his conservative hypocrites who will be shown the door next year, can you say Justin Trudeau for PM?, I can't wait.
Justin would ruin Canada. Do not understand why easterners hate the conservatives so much. All conservative governments are doing well, Liberal & NDP provinces are sucking badly. Maybe you hope that a Liberal government will tax the hell out of Alberta and give the money to the east? Trudeau is a no mind puppet who could not make it as a drama teacher, thinks that the Chinese dictatorship is great and has no clue what the middle class is.
And yes, glad the PQ are out.
And yes, glad the PQ are out.
Well this is really disapointing, back with the corruption and the crap of the Liberals... That Couillard guy really look 3times worst than Charest ever was... and now i can kiss goodbye to the charte... yeah really disapointing really.
As for Federals... well anything but Harper would be an improvement... but for provincials, i can't beleive people, if they didn't wanted to vote for the PQ they should had give a chance to Legault.
As for Federals... well anything but Harper would be an improvement... but for provincials, i can't beleive people, if they didn't wanted to vote for the PQ they should had give a chance to Legault.
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Lily from Montreal
And the best news is that next election won't be before 2018!yeah!!I always vote but I am overdosing on elections lol
Sorry Mike but most of us here are happy to kiss goodbye to the Charte. It is unnecessary and extremely divisive. I still don't understand why anyone would care about turbans, kippahs etc when going to a hospital. The quality of service and professionalism are the issues not someone's religious views or practices. Guess some of us (Quebeckers) don't believe in Liberte, Egalite and Fraternite, the founding principles of the French revolution and modern democracy.
Is it how he is peechy keen on dictatorship and admires the Chinese because they can get shit done on the enviroment such as turn their air thick enough to stand a spoon in?
Perhaps it is his position on how terrorists are just misunderstood and have their feelings hurt and expresses this just after an attack when tensions are hightened.
Or his belief that CEOs and hockey players are middle class and retired people arn't. Oh wait he changed that. Now someone who makes 40K a year and saves 5K a year isn't middle class but twat monkeys like Nick Cage and Mike Tyson who spent every dime and more into bankrupcay [living paycheck to paycheck] are not middle class. This from a guy who has had a few chances over several days to come up with a decent answer.
Fuck didn't people learn anything from George Bush. Electing slobbering idiots is a bad idea.
As for conservative hypocrites. Really? The only political asshat who isn't a hypocrite is one who doesn't actually stand for anything.
Or are you one of those people who will hate on a conservative hypocrite but have no problem with people like Suzuki and his multiple million dollar mansions [and 5 kids] or Gore and his monster home or Branson who has his own island and a business involving sending people into space which is extremely polluting yet are willing to drone on about how everyone needs to change their behavior and be more eco aware.
There isn't much difference between living a lavish lifestyle while preeching about climate change than there is about preeching about "family values" while being balls deep in mangina.
Why I despise Stephen Harper (in no particular order)
1. He's not a nice guy.
2. He's running around Europe right now talking tough and trying to restart the cold war rather than looking out how to defuse the situation.
3. He has systematically undermined the scientific community in Canada at every juncture.
4. The census long form.
5. He is obsessed with a fucking pipe line. He's made a fool of himself and this country by expending all of his time and energy and that of his government promoting and pushing for a pipeline. Really?
6. His callous disregard for democratic rights in Canada as witnessed in parliament and proroguing there of.
7. His lack of funding to research and development in Canada.
8. His obsession and blatant favouritism towards promoting Canada's natural resources economy. Nothing wrong with natural resources, but digging black goo out of the ground in Alberta has 0 value added and no future.
9. His allowing Stelco, Dofasco, Alcan to be bought up by foreign nationals with no problems (all to the detriment of those companies) while paradoxically going to the end of the world to protect Potash, some small petrochemical company in Alberta.
10. His western Canada fixation.
11. His destructive policies on the Environment and Fresh Water in particular. His ending of research into fresh water management in Canada.
12. His lack of transparency.
13. How he runs his government in general (by fear I'd say).
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posted by blkone:
I think it's sort of funny that French Canadians never seem to learn from their past mistakes. Even though I'm relatively young I do remember a few election campaigns, the French are inflicted with a kind of cultural insanity where they do the same things over and over and expect a different result. The English culture is by far superior when it comes to political decisions. Peoples raised in the French culture will never be able to compete against an English cultured electorate.
The next charter put forth should be the creation first of an English 'language police' and then in a few years the creation of a Canadian Regional Security police force to protect against sedition and seditious intent.
posted by blkone:
I think it's sort of funny that French Canadians never seem to learn from their past mistakes. Even though I'm relatively young I do remember a few election campaigns, the French are inflicted with a kind of cultural insanity where they do the same things over and over and expect a different result. The English culture is by far superior when it comes to political decisions. Peoples raised in the French culture will never be able to compete against an English cultured electorate.
The next charter put forth should be the creation first of an English 'language police' and then in a few years the creation of a Canadian Regional Security police force to protect against sedition and seditious intent.
Hello all,
Don't forget Joe's fairly recent written admiration of Socialists and Communists regardless of the leadership being dictators like Chavez and Castro. I'm not sure if he mentioned Kim Jong Un of North Korea.
To me it seems like Canadians are lurching back and forth between the same two flawed types of leaders whether conservative or liberal. Just as in the U.S. there seems to be a failure to bring out those leaders with a different set of views and methods from the old choices. Human beings tend to yearn for alternatives but fail to put trust in them and fall back on..."same old same old", especially out of fear that the other side will win if they don't stick to those old choices.
So the beat goes on. It's our (humans) own fault.
POPPYCOCK!!! (Bull) I won't even dignify that with a rebuttal. I suggest you look into it a lot more. Historically and currently from neutral sources.
I'd bet the results were caused more by fear of Marois' policies than anything else.
Cheers,
Merlot
Don't forget Joe's fairly recent written admiration of Socialists and Communists regardless of the leadership being dictators like Chavez and Castro. I'm not sure if he mentioned Kim Jong Un of North Korea.
To me it seems like Canadians are lurching back and forth between the same two flawed types of leaders whether conservative or liberal. Just as in the U.S. there seems to be a failure to bring out those leaders with a different set of views and methods from the old choices. Human beings tend to yearn for alternatives but fail to put trust in them and fall back on..."same old same old", especially out of fear that the other side will win if they don't stick to those old choices.
So the beat goes on. It's our (humans) own fault.
blkone said:
POPPYCOCK!!! (Bull) I won't even dignify that with a rebuttal. I suggest you look into it a lot more. Historically and currently from neutral sources.
I'd bet the results were caused more by fear of Marois' policies than anything else.
Cheers,
Merlot
"POPPYCOCK!!! (Bull) I won't even dignify that with a rebuttal. I suggest you look into it a lot more. Historically and currently from neutral sources."
I don't believe in neutral sources. Everyone has an agenda, a goal, a wish. If one is not fanatical in their political beliefs then they cannot be trusted in my opinion! A 'neutral' source is nothing more than a political pacifist, too weak to voice what they truly believe inside! The weak, the middlers, are the destroyers of nations.
I don't believe in neutral sources. Everyone has an agenda, a goal, a wish. If one is not fanatical in their political beliefs then they cannot be trusted in my opinion! A 'neutral' source is nothing more than a political pacifist, too weak to voice what they truly believe inside! The weak, the middlers, are the destroyers of nations.
Hello blkone,
Maybe "neutral" was the wrong word choice. What I should have said is an alternative between or different from Conservative and Liberal. You do realize whose camp you are siding with don't you? Fanatic defined: a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, esp. for an extreme religious or political cause.synonyms: zealot, extremist, militant, dogmatist, devotee, adherent; In other words those who have closed their minds to all ideas but their own, closed, unthinking beyond their single-minded views/philosophies. Do I need to provide a list of these types of leaders?
Frankly being closed to other ides but your own dogma is the definition of weak. Strong minds don't close themselves off to the pseudo comfort of settling back into single minded fanaticism based on closed ideas. This is the antithesis of learning. The willingness to develop the mind beyond fanatical devotion to a rigid philosophy is strength.
Don't forget, if your board name indicates anything about your identity many of those past leaders who support the same belief in fanaticism as you would have had you enslaved or worse. Yet, you say you trust them.
Good luck,
Merlot
1. ) Do you really care if a nice guy runs our country as long as it is run well, We did excellent during the recession. I do not want him to ne my friend.
2. He just started a great free trade deal with Europe that will stop the dairy gouging in Canada.
3. I would like to see proof on that.
4. Not an issue
5. The pipeline will bring billions into Canada ( Transfer payments are needed out east )
6. Most do not care.
7.http://www.budget.gc.ca/2012/plan/chap3-1-eng.html
8. That black goo develops more money in 1 year than any other province brings in 10 years. See #5 about transfer payments. It is also used to give funds for research & development which you care about.
9. If another country wants to buy a business here and keep the cash flow in what is the issue. The company would either fold or be bought out by the Americans, both are foreign.
10. Western Canada pays a lot of bills, he is not taxing the hell out of the east to pay for needed capital which the liberals would do and have done in the past. ( N.E.B. many years ago, really fucked us )
11. Quit watching David Suzuki, there is no fresh water problem in Canada.
12. I and most do not care, Canada is doing well and far better than if any other political party was to run. Liberals would fuck you over so fast and the NDP would tax the hell out of you with all the " free " stuff.
13. Not by fear but like a business, if you do not like the way he runs it get fired or quit just like any other business.
14. ) He is not a part time drama teacher who has no idea what to say and out of touch with the middle class Canadians. People do not pull his strings and make him dance like Justin.
It depends on your point of view whether or not Canada did well or not during the recession, never the less, how we did had nothing to do with Harper (though he likes to take credit for it). If anything, it had more to do with Paul Martin being finance minister under Chretien than it it ever did with Harper
WTF does that have to do with Harper acting like a fool in Europe and trying to restart the cold war. Even the Germans want him to dial it back and the Americans are less hawkish than Harper. An excellent article in the Globe and Mail about how Harper is looking more and more like a fool, and I agree. He's an idiot.
You need to read a bit more. Harper has gutted the scientific community in Canada for purely political reasons - mainly that they prove over and over that his policies are the stuff that disaster is made of. All you need to do is google "Harper's War on Science" for all the proof you want. HERE is an excellent source about just the kind of damage that Harper is doing to the core of our scientific community.
the union which represents federal scientists and other professionals employed by federal government departments – 5,332 of their members have already either been fired from their jobs or transferred to other duties. That number includes 139 scientists/professionals at Environment Canada (cut by $253.8 million since 2011) and 436 scientists/professionals at Fisheries & Oceans (already cut by $79.3 million, with $100 million more in cuts slated to come). Thousands of unionized support staff have also been cut from these and other departments. - See more at: https://www.policyalternatives.ca/p...-governments-war-science#sthash.RHLIjjD6.dpuf
It goes to point number 3 above. Harper is waging war on reality and the census long form provides a scientific reality that Harper can't fight. So his solution is to simply get rid of facts.
Doubtful. All it will do is bring money to Alberta and Alberta is all that Harper cares about. The only people that care about idiotic pipelines are Albertans. Harper is singlehandedly turning Canada into a 1 dimensional economy - natural resources. It was easy to do up until now. Natural Resources were in demand, so Harper really could not go wrong. Well, the commodity bust is here folks and we've put all our eggs in one basket and now we're going to pay the price. As far as Transfer Payments go, the reason the eastern provinces need transfer payments is Stephen Harper and his fixation on support to Alberta at the expense of the rest of the country.
Not only that, but the oil sands are an environmental catastrophie on a scale never seen before on the entire planet.
The Tar Sands accounts for about 1.6 percent of Canadian GDP. Outside of Alberta, the impact is next to nothing. This is a statistical fact.
Harper has devoted 95% of his government's energy on one small business unit in the country at the expense of everything else.
Anyone with any brains cares about democracy.
Uh no.
1.6 percent of GDP for the black goo.
That's not the point, the point is that Harper goes out of his way to prevent foreign takeovers of Western companies like Potash, but does nothing to prevent foreign takeovers of eastern companies.
Really? Actually, it was the "National Energy Program (NEP)" and what it did was create this thingie called Petro Canada. Maybe you've heard of it. (Mind you, they recently merged with Suncor), but Petro Canada established a Canadian foothold in the Petro Chemical Industry in Canada that did not exist prior to that. (Up until that point, all decisions regarding oil production in Alberta were made in the United States or Europe.)
And ironically, Alberta is currently discounting its crude oil on the world market by about $20.00 a barrel in order to sell the stuff. Ironic because that is a far greater discount than under the then National Energy Policy which simply marketed crude oil to Canadians at 90% of the world price. Alberta was free to sell its oil at the world price to any one else.
http://www.atlanticfisherman.com/stories.asp?id=6688
http://mindprod.com/canada/c38.html
Seems like there are lots of things you don't care about. From transparency, to ethics, to democracy, to equality, to science, to the environment. You don't seem to care about too much.
Well, here's something you need to take note of. Lots of other people do care and we've had enough of Harper. Never mind the Senate Scandals, the ethics scandals by his MPs, or the long gun registry, or the callousness. People all over the country are sick of Harper and what he's done to Canada.
Next election, he's done.
The worst Prime Minister in the history of Canada.
I agree that the senate has to go, as for Paul Martin he was not even in power during the recession and the books were cooked when the Conservative took over. For scientific funding, cuts have to be made and in all areas ( do you not pay enough taxes? ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Firearms_Registry.. Long gun registry was started by the liberals and canceled by the conservatives. Outside of Alberta the impact of the oil sands is nothing???? So the 8 billion to Quebec is nothing? http://www.torontosun.com/2012/04/11/will-albertans-stand-up-to-quebec. ( Alberta send 21 billion more than it receives from Ottawa due to the Oil sands ) The out of province people Alberta employs also helps out other provinces. So bullshit on the non impact. Stephen Harper and his fixation on support to Alberta at the expense of the rest of the country. Your quote.... Pardon, no money comes from other provinces to fund Alberta.
The corruption of the Liberals or the throwing away of money by the NDP will ruin the way Canada is now and fuck I think it is going pretty well, but then I do not depend on getting a job in Quebec where, well unless you live in Montreal really is not too good. Can your taxes get any higher? Can your roads get any worse? Can unemployment get any lower? Which government did this? Conservative, nope, Liberal and PQ................. YES.
Life is good out west and our choices are better than the PQ or Liberals. Total destruction or corruption...... What a choice....
The reason I moved to Quebec is to be with my kids ( divorce and ex is a Quebecker, she moved back home ). Really hated it here at first but the province and people grew on me
The people I met do not like the taxes and low unemployment and the conservatives had nothing to do with it.... All caused by the Liberal and PQ government you elected.
And your beloved NEP which Albertans hated and Trudeau implemented. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Energy_Program. His stupid offspring plans to screw |Alberta also to feed the east some more.
NOTE: I do not think that the Conservatives are good..... But the best of the crap we get to chose from. IMO the majority of politicians are not worthy to govern us.
The corruption of the Liberals or the throwing away of money by the NDP will ruin the way Canada is now and fuck I think it is going pretty well, but then I do not depend on getting a job in Quebec where, well unless you live in Montreal really is not too good. Can your taxes get any higher? Can your roads get any worse? Can unemployment get any lower? Which government did this? Conservative, nope, Liberal and PQ................. YES.
Life is good out west and our choices are better than the PQ or Liberals. Total destruction or corruption...... What a choice....
The reason I moved to Quebec is to be with my kids ( divorce and ex is a Quebecker, she moved back home ). Really hated it here at first but the province and people grew on me
The people I met do not like the taxes and low unemployment and the conservatives had nothing to do with it.... All caused by the Liberal and PQ government you elected.
And your beloved NEP which Albertans hated and Trudeau implemented. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Energy_Program. His stupid offspring plans to screw |Alberta also to feed the east some more.
NOTE: I do not think that the Conservatives are good..... But the best of the crap we get to chose from. IMO the majority of politicians are not worthy to govern us.
1. Yes, I understand the meaning of the word fanatic (...). All great ideas, all great inventions have come to us by way of fanatics. Heck, even electricity and the telephone.
2. Learning? History is made, not learnt. Leave the learning to those too afraid to be strong and stick to their beliefs, fanatically (hehe).
3. So what? When was the last time you had a sandwich made from Canadian grains and then lamented over the sad fate of the despoiled Indians? History is what it is, but a weak people unable to be fanatical (and brutal if the need arises) in their Nationalism are a sad, base, peoples -- destined for destruction.
When it comes to politics, I will never alter my views.
Now that the elections are over, time to kick the hornets nest...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_oYzrrbiuo
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