Elections: MERB poll results and before/after elections discussions.

[protagoras]

No really there's nothing to understand here.

How can a nation vote for a political party and a Prime Minister that were accused of affront to democracy? Isn't it another proof that ROC is insane and facist? Bin Laden is dead...here's come another political scarecrow.

 

[Monsieur-Du-Q]

Obrigado protagoras,
This election results will proove in the long run to be a win for Québec independantists and a loss for canadians...Maybe like you, I feel very sorry, disturbed and uncertain to be able to be both canadian and québécois...

 

[Monsieur-Du-Q]

Is it must me or did others notice that Gilles Duceppe looked & sounded hammered out of his mind during his speech earlier?

Don't you understand that Duceppe is a very happy man today...He can now dream about being the first President of the Republic of Québec...

 

[Doc Holliday]

Eve Adams.......one very hot politician!

Very popular in her riding, she won tonight.....let's hope that the PM rewards her by giving her an important position in his Cabinet:

Eve Adams

Eve Adams wins her election & is now an MP

 

[Doc Holliday]

Another hottie: Ruth Ellen Brosseau of the NDP

Fresh from her recent trip to Vegas, this hottie works as an assistant manager at a local pub. She won her election tonight & i can't wait to see her perform in Parliament:

Ruth Ellen Brosseau gets elected

 

[Monsieur-Du-Q]

The Bloc BARELY got 4 seats. Barely!

Gilles Duceppe didn't even win his own riding! LOL!!!!!!!

Bye-bye Mr. Duceppe!!!!!! Bye-bye Bloc Quebecois!!!!!

Good f&$&# riddance if you ask me!!

"Vivre le Quebec!! Vivre le Canada!"

If you go back to history, Général De Gaulle in 1967 from the Montréal ''Hotel de Ville'' launched an historical: ''Vive le Québec...Vive le Québec Libre'' Not ''Vivre'' ...VIVE...Why are you so opposed to Québec becoming a country when you don't understand the details of the language and the cultural history of our land...

 

[Ricky bonds]

Don't you understand that Duceppe is a very happy man today...He can now dream about being the first President of the Republic of Québec...

Lmfao.. I hope this is a joke?
Il y en a qui reve en multi-couleur..?

 

[protagoras]

Once again the really disturbing fact about this election (and politics in general) is that only approximatively slightly over 60% of the registered voters went to the polls.

Why was the voter turn out so low? Shouldn't we think about compulsory voting like in Australia for instance?

I'll give a chance to Harper because I respect the results of the polls. This is democracy (even if sometimes it look likes a simulacrum of it) All things considered there are worst things for Canada than a Conservative majority Government...Justin Bieber is one of those.

 

[sapman99]

Ben là, là

Les québécois ont décidé d'utiliser le NPD pour se faire valoir et non pas pour en faire leur porte-parole. Les quatre prochaines années montreront que le mouvement indépendantiste sera le grand gagnant de ces élections car le NPD sera incapable de représenter l'unicité et les aspirations des québécois et renforcera l'option indépendantiste maintenant concentrée au Québec et à l'Assemblée Nationale. Tous les députés défaits du Bloc seront maintenant rapatriés dans les circonscriptions provinciales et renforceront l'idée de faire du Québec un pays.

Hey mon ami, aimes-tu ça manger des pétates :lol:?

Ça fait je sais pas combien de temps que les observateurs avertis de la scène politique le disent: les Québécois en ont ras-le-bol de se faire parler souveraineté. Ti-Gilles a appelé les reliques (Marois, Larose, Parizeau) à sa rescousse la semaine dernière, et voici les résultats ce matin .

La démocratie a parlé, respectons le résultat. Ça fait très longtemps que le Québec flirte discrètement avec le NPD, maintenant nous sommes fiancés. Le NPD s'engage à respecter les compétences du Québec, c'est un parti social-démocrate avec un leader qui n'a jamais démordu de ses principes, ce qui n'est pas peu. Je connais monsieur Layton depuis qu'il est a été conseiller municipal à Toronto, et il n'a jamais changé son fusil d'épaule.

Voici mes prévisions: Harper va tout de même "bien" mener le pays côté affaires, mais évidemment nous rapprocher plus de l'Oncle Sam. Côté social et environnement, oublions ça pour 5 ans. Il va essayer de cultiver les grosses légumes de droite du Québec avec un certain succès. Pendant ce temps, la "gauche" va se réorganiser, ils ont bien vu que le vote est divisé. Le Parti Libéral, on oublie ça. Certains journalistes parlaient de fusion Libéral-NPD hier soir, moi je pense plutôt que le parti va s'auto-détruire après des défections majeures vers le NPD. Justin Trudeau pourrait être un des premiers :eyebrows:. 5 ans, ça laisse plein de temps pour organiser et mûrir une vraie alternative aux Cons...

Côté provincial, les libéraux là aussi sont sur le bord de la faillite, mais le PQ transpire la vétusté. Personne n'écoute Françoise David, mais 30% des gens sondés auraient voté pour François Legault dès qu'il a annoncé ses couleurs. On s'aligne pour des gros changements là aussi.

Ce qui est arrivé hier soir, c'est que le Québec est à l'avant-garde des grands courants politiques. Le reste du pays va nous suivre à la prochaine élection.

 

[protagoras]

Ce qui est arrivé hier soir, c'est que le Québec est à l'avant-garde des grands courants politiques. Le reste du pays va nous suivre à la prochaine élection.

Tu me voles les mots de la bouche. J'ai l'a même impression. La principale raison pour laquelle le Brésil est une économie émergente (en passe de devenir une des 5 premières nations) tient au fait qu'ils n'ont pas eu peur d'oser l'expérience gouvernement de gauche avec Lula du PT. Après deux mandats, c'est au tour de Dilma Roussef (una autre PT) de diriger le pays.

Hier soir, après ma virée avec mon chum dans un privê de Novo brooklin, je l'ai invité dans une churrascaria de son choix. Il a opté pour la churrascaria Southplace
http://www.southsplace.com.br/ Il est économiste de profession et a parlé en bien du mariage gouvernement de gauche avec une industrie de droite. Je lui ai parlé du cas du NPD et il y voit des similitudes avec le cas du Brésil. Le choix massif par les Québécois d'un gouvernement NPD ne fait qu'annoncer l'aurore d'une révolution sociale et économique au Canada. C'est pas le temps de casser du sucre sur le dos des Conservateurs, ils vont s'empêtrer eux-mêmes dans différents bourbiers (dont l'écologie et le respect de l'environnement).

Je suis d'accord avec toi Sapman le Québec doit regarder de l'avant et renier cette attitude passéiste qui consiste à faire sortir du placard de vieux épouvantails drapés de leur ceinture fléchê et leur chemises à carreaux.

 

[sapman99]

All in all, this is a step to progress

The Conservatives won last night by default. They have a majority and business-wise, they will probably do a decent job of it for the duration of their term.

We can certainly forget all about social and environmental issues for the duration of their stay, I just hope they don’t mess with our Public Health System more than they already have…

The “left” in Canada is divided right now, and the Liberal Party is in disrepute. This huge push by the NDP will force thinkers on the left to re-evaluate strategies to defeat the Conservatives in the next election. Let’s consider:

• In the 2008 election, the NDP won 36 seats outside Quebec, not a “bad performance” for them. This time they got 44 outside Quebec, a record, but they also got a whopping 58 seats on top of that in Quebec, a tour-de-force.
• The Liberals have been relegated to a minor role in the affairs of the country. They are being rightly chastised for their past mistakes and getting away from their “base supporters”. Not many people trust them anymore and Michael Ignatieff is definitely not the stuff heroes are made out of.
• With this huge Québec caucus, the NDP has the big end of the stick now. One part of the “division of the left” is solved. For the first time in a long time, we have Quebec representatives in Ottawa who are there to work with the rest of the country. This will prove a big appeal not only to social-minded Canadians, but to others as well.
• The Liberal Party has long been divided between the ideologists and the politickers. I predict that a number of ideologists will migrate over to the NDP. Who first? Justin Trudeau: His dad Pierre Elliot started out with the CCF, the NDP’s predecessor. Full circle, mark my words.

It’s not like anyone expected petrol-money dependent Alberta to jump ship, only Harper’s bunch is preventing scrutiny into the environmental mess the Tar Sands are. Toronto is still in “profit-taking mode”, so any topic besides the economy is moot at this point, dixit Conservative. Only the ridings close to downtown voted NDP, and some ethnics threw in their ballot with the Libs for old time’s sake (one last time I am sure).

How the country will be governed will be no surprise: we may get tax cuts, but do not be surprised if service cuts and pay-per-play type of service deliveries take place. Look out for more toll booths on renovated-new bridges and roads, and less money for public transit. You get the picture…

If the opposition parties are smart, they will organically unite and take their time in mounting a successful campaign for the next election. Harper wanted a majority and got it. Let’s see if it will be a triumph or a swan song…

In the meantime, the next challenge here will be provincial in Québec: the Liberals in disrepute there as well, with the PQ looking more and more like an anachronism. New parties with new ideas rising…

For once, I am glad to be living in “interesting times”.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I read in the BBC website that the Bloc Quebecoise "suffered heavy losses." Is the separatist movement now dead?

 

[Mod 11]

One election thread is enough. Threads merged, poll closed and title changed.

 

[JH Fan]

And.....the Bloc is TOAST!!!!!

JH, I guess the question of what Quebec wants has been answered!

You're either totally blind, stupid or ignorant if you think that the question of Quebec has been answered by voting for NPD.

Haven't you seen my first post on this ? Didn't I tell you NPD was a good choice ?

Quebec is again leading the change of this country by stiring sh*t in a federal election.

If you think Duceppe or the Nationalist is gone you really don't know anything about the past present and futur.

Quebec's nationalism was proven once again with this vote.

We're fed up with this stupid federalism that isn't going nowhere for which english Canada was just complaining for but didn't have the guts to do anything about.

We also need a big f*king change in Quebec city to get rid of this phoney federalist Charest who has failed miserably.

And this time Quebec bashers won't have an excuse about the Bloc and we will see their real face... which I can't wait to see !

Talk about major sh*t disturbing in the years to come

So, please Techman with your Justin Trudeau... maybe you should pay more attention about what really is going here in Quebec and Mtrl if you want to learn something about politics and even... federalism

Have fun ! for the years to come

 

[Mod 11]

Last warning: this isn't the sport forum. Next post I make about this will be to announce suspensions. Please leave the attitude in the locker room.

 

[JH Fan]

I read in the BBC website that the Bloc Quebecoise "suffered heavy losses." Is the separatist movement now dead?

Separatism is same as Nationalism in Quebec Beav.

It's far from being dead, it never was and never will !

In Quebec we are different, we think, talk, eat, sleep, have more sex, etc.. differently than the majority in Canada.
And every generation of english Canadians who failed to see this ended-up with a major f*cking headache !

And they're about to have one in the years to come !
Generaly speaking, there's one every 10-15 years or so... and I can't wait to see the next one

BTW... you'll hear more about First Nations of Canada also !
It's time to finally come out of the guther in which hardcore federalists put First nations gladly thinking their spirit was dead !

So I can't wait to see the face of the white man who thinks this election is a good riddence

Answichil

 

[JH Fan]

Ce qui est arrivé hier soir, c'est que le Québec est à l'avant-garde des grands courants politiques. Le reste du pays va nous suivre à la prochaine élection.

You're right on this one but.... ca pas la souveraineté qu'on est tanné d'entendre. C'est le manque de projet collectif, les promesses de changements qui viennent pas et tout ce qui stagne comme a Quebec.

Le camp souverainiste a completement oublié le vrai sens d'etre 'Maitres chez nous' et tout le monde en a plein le cul de cette société qui déraille complètement.
Pendant ce temps le camp fédéraliste se roule dans la complaisance, la corruption et l'arrogance en pensant que le sentiment commun des Quebecois en est un d'esperer 'seulement que ca va changer a partir d'Ottawa.

Le NPD aura beau s'engager a respecter les compétences du Québec mais c'est pas lui qui mene la barque et meme si Layton n'a jamais demordu de ses principes comme tu dis, il ne sera pu la dans bien longtemps.

On embarque pour une ride qui va en faire degueuler une bonne gaigne qui ont facilement le mal de mer car tu oublie un aspect fondamental qui n'est pas du ressort de ce qui ce passe au Canada.

Le monde est en train de changer Big time avec la montée de l'Asie, l'importance de ce qui reste comme ressources naturelles et les Americains qui vont pas se laisser faire et abattre facilement. Chaque parcelle de territoire va devenir de plus en plus importante !

Les mouvements sociaux, les changements politiques et tout le reste vont s'accelerer et on va avoir du fun just keeping track of what's going on !

 

[Doc Holliday]

Don't you understand that Duceppe is a very happy man today...He can now dream about being the first President of the Republic of Québec...

If he's happy, it's because he can now collect his Canada pension cheque.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Ça fait je sais pas combien de temps que les observateurs avertis de la scène politique le disent: les Québécois en ont ras-le-bol de se faire parler souveraineté. Ti-Gilles a appelé les reliques (Marois, Larose, Parizeau) à sa rescousse la semaine dernière, et voici les résultats ce matin .

La démocratie a parlé, respectons le résultat. Ça fait très longtemps que le Québec flirte discrètement avec le NPD, maintenant nous sommes fiancés. Le NPD s'engage à respecter les compétences du Québec, c'est un parti social-démocrate avec un leader qui n'a jamais démordu de ses principes, ce qui n'est pas peu. Je connais monsieur Layton depuis qu'il est a été conseiller municipal à Toronto, et il n'a jamais changé son fusil d'épaule.

Je suis tout a fait d'accord avec ce que vous avez dit, Sap. Tout a fait d'accord!

 

[JH Fan]

How dare you say i don't understand the details of the language & cultural history of Quebec when my family tree in Quebec goes all the way back to the late 1600's ? I may no longer reside in Quebec, but i've got Quebec & the french language in my blood as much as everyone else on this board.

Tabernak! Check your facts first & stop talking out of your hat! :wave:

Actually Du-Q isn't so wrong...

First we don't say Tabernak ! this is an outdated way of the english canadians who still haven't grasp how to say it properly ! Specially if you're family tree goes back to 1600

Even Mexicans knows how to say it properly !

It's like when I hear the Jacques Cartshier bridge or Qwebec ! it is so retarded I can't help myself laughing at the sorry a*s who still try to sound french !

As for having Quebec in your blood it must have gotten quite diluted but it's ok.

Mine was mixed with Cree along the way.

Maybe Du-Q is just pointing at the fact that you think you know about Quebec as much as you know about hockey