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naull

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Hello all,

I've been a hobbyist for a few years and, seeing the post about Epstein being bumped brought a question I had some time ago, and discussed with a few friends, regarding our responsibility as hobbyists in preventing human trafficking.

It is my belief that every woman I am seeing in relation to the hobby (be it strip clubs, MPs or escorts) has to be doing it of her own accord. I walked out after meeting ladies 4 times in the last 5 years due to them seeming too young and unwilling/unable to verify their age or due to them looking like they're under the control of a pimp (DV marks, seeming afraid, other evidence of them having a pimp) (always made sure to pay them the agreed upon fee so they don't get in trouble).

I also believe that human/sex trafficking is the greatest threat to our hobby. If there was no trafficking and it could be verified that the ladies in the industry are there of their own accord, there would be no incentive for the government to apply harsh laws. Inversely, if there was a surge in trafficking, it could push the government to vote in harder laws and/or the police to do more stings.

Here's the question: where do you draw the line regarding your personal responsibility to "fight" trafficking? Is avoiding SPs that seem to be victims of such schemes enough? Should we carry information flyers about ressources for such women and hand them out if we suspect foul play? Should we provide anonymous reports to the authorities to help them catch the pimps if we have evidence that the woman is stuck in this situation?
 

CaptRenault

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I also believe that human/sex trafficking is the greatest threat to our hobby. If there was no trafficking and it could be verified that the ladies in the industry are there of their own accord, there would be no incentive for the government to apply harsh laws...
I think the prostitution abolitionists have come up with the best solution to the problem, i.e. the "Nordic Law." You make selling sex legal but buying sex illegal. This is what Canada(C-36 law), France and some states and cities in the U.S. have done.

We could go beyond just making the purchase of sex illegal and redefine all sex buyers as "sex traffickers." Many researchers in the growing field of women and gender studies have proposed taking such a step and the U.S. federal government is moving in this direction. If we can do away with sex traffickers then we do away with sex trafficking. It's really very simple.

How can you help? Well, the next time you go to see a prostitute, pay her for her time but don't have sex with her (you could also give her one of those fliers you mentioned). Instead, call 911 and turn yourself in. The only problem might be getting police to respond to your call. In that case, just march down to the nearest police station and turn yourself in. If enough of us follow this course of action and we work together, we can solve the problem of sex trafficking.
 
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Motok

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I think the prostitution abolitionists have come up with the best solution to the problem, i.e. the "Nordic Law." You make selling sex legal but buying sex illegal. This is what Canada(C-36 law), France and some states and cities in the U.S. have done.

We could go beyond just making the purchase of sex illegal and redefine all sex buyers as "sex traffickers." Many researchers in the growing field of women and gender studies have proposed taking such a step and the U.S. federal government is moving in this direction. If we can do away with sex traffickers then we do away with sex trafficking. It's really very simple.

How can you help? Well, the next time you go to see a prostitute, pay her for her time but don't have sex with her (you could also give her one of those fliers you mentioned). Instead, call 911 and turn yourself in. The only problem might be getting police to respond to your call. In that case, just march down to the nearest police station and turn yourself in. If enough of us follow this course of action and we work together, we can solve the problem of sex trafficking.
Not really sure if this is real or sarcasm...
 

Halloween Mike

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Not really sure if this is real or sarcasm...
Pretty sure it is sarcasm :p

Personally for me its like Patron. I trust the agencies i deal with to do proper verification when they hire someone. Age being the most important one right away but i also expect them to keep an eye on the girl, meaning making sure they don't appear distress, bruised, highly intoxicated, etc, when they begin their shift. When it comes to indies, i rarely seen one advertise that looked "too young" when it comes to here or among well reputed collectives/twitter presence.

I keep my business around merb and such because honestly i can't see a third of the ladies i would love to see anyway due to budget constraint, so why try to hunt the lower ads? Yes i could pay less and see more girls, but how much could end up crappy meetings? I rather pay 250 and have a good time than pay 180 and have a mediocre time only to maybe add one more meeting at the end of the year. Now when it comes to way too lower fees (i see stuff like 100$ or less on LL), i wouldn't even inquire in a blue moon. That look sketchy to me. Its likely fake pics, desperate peoples, or in the worst case a dangerous scam/thieves. Honestly if there is any good looking escort offering gfe for 70$/h in 2022 on her free will, i would eat my shorts to quote Bart Simpson.
 

Joe Thighsman

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I remedy that by seeing what i like, SPs in their 30s and older MILF types. Teens are not my thing.
I agree. Older SPs are much less likely to be victims. As a man in his sixties, I have little interest in seeing somebody who’s younger than my daughter.
 
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pop2021

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I wrote about this in a recent tweet thread . Compared to an estimated 169k workers the number of human trafficking cases seems to be minuscule. Many of these cases never result in convictions as well.

According to a RCMP report I read recently on the topic a common pattern is someone agrees to be a worker but finds that: a) they don't get to keep the money they are paid and b) can't leave. (I'd provide a link but I am having trouble finding a publicly available one). This is a recent juristat report: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-005-x/2021001/article/00001-eng.htm

There's also a perception that First Nations are a dominant population among sex workers and that many are trafficked in Canada. However, I found very few self-identified as first nations (1.3% in two data sets spanning 2014-2022). In fact, it appears to be the case that its actually less likely you'll be in the industry if you identify as First Nations.
 
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