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EagerBeaver

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Gaby,

Do you realize that Allen has been a journeyman backup goalie his entire career and while he has shown a sharp improvement in his Save % the last 2 seasons, he was likely a backup for a reason all these years? Is it normal for a 30 year old goalie who has been a journeyman backup to suddenly become a long term solid starting goalie? I know there are a few guys like Halak and Tim Thomas who took it to another level in their 30s but is this the norm?
 

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It is tough to watch Price becoming average and not performing like the Price we know.
He is not getting too much help from his defence lately either.
For me they fired the wrong people, Bergevin is the one who should have been canned a long time ago.
The Habs still don’t have one viable centre or anyone they can actually call a real goal scorer, instead they pay large sums of money for guys like Drouin a midget who has never lived up to the hype. There is not one player amongst them that you can expect to score 30 goals.
I have all the respect in the world for Gallagher as he gives his all every night, but when he continues to be one of your top goal scorers you know there is something totally wrong with that team.
 
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The Habs still don’t have one viable centre or anyone they can actually call a real goal scorer, instead they pay large sums of money for guys like Drouin a midget who has never lived up to the hype. There is not one player amongst them that you can expect to score 30 goals.
I have all the respect in the world for Gallagher as he gives his all every night, but when he continues to be one of your top goal scorers you know there is something totally wrong with that team.
It seems like the Habs have had a center problem for many many years, even before Bergevin got there. I remember Bergevin drafted a young center named Alex Galchenyuk and it turned out he was not really a center and also had a hard time keeping his penis in his pants off the ice. So they ultimately traded him, I think to Arizona for Domi, and neither of those guys was the answer.

I am sure Bergevin didn't appreciate it when Julien asked where his McDavid is, but McDavids do not grow on trees. Players of this caliber can only be obtained through free agency. This is what Toronto did when they went out and signed John Tavares. Montreal could have signed him too but they allowed Toronto to do so. And now Toronto has a few dynamic centers on their roster and that's why they are in 1st place in the Canadian Division. It's not hard to see this.
 
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all these long term contracts are killing teams payroll look at canadians with price and webber for 20 millions after a couple of years there just not giving you value for the money anymore and now gallager at 6.5 million and believe me when i say i love this player but with is size and the way he plays reaching his 30s hes going to slow down quick and were going to hate that contract also and hes been my favorite player for the past 5 or 6 years i get it players try to get the most they can but as a manager you need to make sure the value is there for the last years of a contract also or else you can never improove your team and with the salary cap probably not going up for the next couple of years those 3 players are taking 26 million of it witch is almost 1/3 of your cap and thats going to hurt them for the next 5 years the new reality is you want to pay your players when in there prime between 24 and 30 if your overpaying after 30 years old its killing your chance to build a good team and thats whats going on with the team i love and it hurts me to say this
 

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Gaby,

Do you realize that Allen has been a journeyman backup goalie his entire career and while he has shown a sharp improvement in his Save % the last 2 seasons, he was likely a backup for a reason all these years? Is it normal for a 30 year old goalie who has been a journeyman backup to suddenly become a long term solid starting goalie? I know there are a few guys like Halak and Tim Thomas who took it to another level in their 30s but is this the norm?
Journeyman backup goalie, are we talking about Malcolm Subban !?!? Just to clarify Jake Allen was averaging 48 games played per season from 2014 to 2019 with the St-Louis Blues. His very worst save% in a season is .905 and he started every game in the playoffs for his team from 2014 to 2017.
 

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PRICE....wow....since season 2019-2020...he allowed 5 goals and more 11 times....by far the worst in NHL.....for 10.5 millions/year....incredible.
Seems Montreal has 5G in nets, when the whole world is getting exited about 5G coming recently, Montreal has been using
5G for the past decade.

Also I rather have any journeymen, any backup or anything else with respectable numbers then Price, maybe the most average
(if not below) and most overrated goalie in NHL history with that stupid ridiculous contract (What was Bergevin thinking) ???

Also Jake Allen should be the goalie for the rest of the season (So that DD won't be fired by next season, if he keep playing Price that is).
If Price is the No 1 goalie for the next 5 years, I see another 2 to 3 coaches getting fired.

Also we need a coach to pull up a "Jaques Martin" and find the "Next Halak", on that note ( I was in the keep Halak camp) and imagine
if we had kept Halak, maybe Jaques Martin would still be the Montreal coach And yet all the other coaches come to Montreal, play that
disaster Price (Because they have to , 10M ) and come their demise.
 

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SENS in town tonight....watch out they are on fire....STUTZLE and BATHERSON are hot.....let's hope ALLEN will b en service.....DUCHARME will enjoy his first win.
 

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Just to clarify if he is a starting NHL goalie why was he traded for a 3rd round pick and why did he sign a 2 year contract to be a backup goalie while being paid backup goalie money?
I don’t think you clarify anything, it’s cristal clear right now that Jake Allen is a high quality top tier backup and he has never been a journeyman backup ever. And while Carey can’t stop a volleyball between the pipes, I hope they use Allen more often. He gives the team a better chance to win at the moment.
 

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Well anyway it's PRICE tonight o_O ....of course---no choice---c'est notre McDavid......lolllll
 

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I don't think there is any dispute that Allen has greatly outperformed Price so far this year. Price should be the very expensive backup and Allen the starter. But once you set that arrangement you establish Price as the highest paid backup goalie in NHL history. To get $10.5 million annual salary for backup goaltending services is remarkable. Price's agent has got to be agent of the 21st Century.
 

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Price's agent has got to be agent of the 21st Century.
He benifited a lot from the hype created and continiously fed by the incestuous Montréal's sports medias. The overrating and over-exposure of Price before his big contract was mostly due to the fact that there was not much else to talk about concerning the habs poor line-ups
 

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ok i know were all down and believe me so am i but lets all push positive energy for our team they really need it tonight price is going to play like a #1 goalie the guys in front of him are going to play for 60min yes you heard me 60min were not going into god dam overtime because we suck at it so were going to win this one nice and clean and get rolling again im mad everybodys mad and they have got to play mad lets do this we have all had enough right
 
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ok i know were all down and believe me so am i but lets all push positive energy for our team they really need it tonight price is going to play like a #1 goalie the guys in front of him are going to play for 60min yes you heard me 60min were not going into god dam overtime because we suck at it so were going to win this one nice and clean and get rolling again im mad everybodys mad and they have got to play mad lets do this we have all had enough right
a day after I posted some mumbo jumbo here about the Canadiens coaching staff they ended up getting fired ... they also bounced back tonight after your “guy living in a van down by the river inspirational speech “ ... coincidence? I think not ... I’m starting to suspect that Bergevin and other members of the Habs organization might be Merb members ... anyways like the spirit of your post above and let’s hope they end up righting the ship ...
 

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.. I’m starting to suspect that Bergevin and other members of the Habs organization might be Merb members ...
If this is true who among us would be Bergevin? My guess would be Gaby except he has been critical of Bergevin in his posts. Although that could be a ruse.........when he mentioned that Julien said "where is my McDavid?"" as a shot to Bergevin, perhaps, the reality is that Gaby aka Bergevin is still seething with anger at this thinly veiled shot........
 

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so Gaby tell us the truth are you Bergevin and if you are tell me where is our Mcdavid is it SIENNA is it KATRINA GIRL or are you planning a big trade for a knew star
 

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ok that was fun but lets get back to this thread it wasnt easy but we finally won one the structure was there and we played an all around good game but a lot of players are in a i cant score a goal anymore mode and a few guys are going to have to unblock if were going to keep this going Tatar Drouin Danault top 6 players and i dont know if they have 5 goals all together we need more from them if we want this team to get back on track
 

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Speaking of Drouin, I noticed that the guy he was traded for, Sergachev, who is a defenseman, has more points as a defenseman (15) than Drouin does as a left wing (13), while playing 1 less game than Drouin. Should a defenseman have more points than the left wing he was traded for?

Drouin stats:
Sergachev stats:
 
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