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Muslims from the Middle East who are fortunate to live in a modern, peaceful and tolerant country like Canada should leave their ancient, intolerant and hateful beliefs behind. If they don't, then they should go back to the Middle or suffer the consequences in Canada, as this woman did.



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Seems like it is too hard to deport an immigrant or illegal in Canada. Should be a quick court case and off on a plane.
 
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Seems like it is too hard to deport an immigrant or illegal in Canada. Should be a quick court case and off on a plane.
As always, many are outraged by words but not by the daily killing of civilians, women and children included.

Plenty fascist Nazi like people in Canada and US... Many without papers... Maybe it's OK because they're not muslim.
 
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It's great to see the Israeli and other hostages held by Hamas in the process of being released. However, Hamas, as would be expected, is making a humiliating spectacle out of the process by parading the hostages in public before their handover to Israeli. For that and many other reasons, I have no sympathy for the people of Gaza. Yes, they have suffered and died a lot in this war but that was the inevitable result of the war that they started on October 7, 2023.

As soon as I learned the terrible details of the October 7 attack, I knew what would happen to Hamas and Gaza (and eventually Lebanon and Hezbollah) and I have supported every action that Israel has taken in response. Indeed, I am thankful to Israel for acting so decisively and effectively to wage war against the the terrorist armies of the Palestinians. It was an unexpected blessing that Iran got directly involved and then had most of their air defense system wiped out. As General Sherman said at the start of the U.S. Civil War, “War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.”
 
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It's great to see the Israeli and other hostages held by Hamas in the process of being released. However, Hamas, as would be expected, is making a humiliating spectacle out of the process by parading the hostages in public before their handover to Israeli. For that and many other reasons, I have no sympathy for the people of Gaza. Yes, they have suffered and died a lot in this war but that was the inevitable result of the war that they started on October 7, 2023.

As soon as I learned the terrible details of the October 7 attack, I knew what would happen to Hamas and Gaza (and eventually Lebanon and Hezbollah) and I have supported every action that Israel has taken in response. Indeed, I am thankful to Israel for acting so decisively and effectively to wage war against the the terrorist armies of the Palestinians. It was an unexpected blessing that Iran got directly involved and then had most of their air defense system wiped out. As General Sherman said at the start of the U.S. Civil War, “War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.”

You really need to open a history book, and read what has happened to the people of Palestine before Oct 7, 2023.

You also need to educate yourself on the history of Hamas.

To say you have zero sympathy for innocent humans where they never asked for any of this.

To think Israel is this saving grace and a beacon for hope, has to be the most laughable thing I have read all day meanwhile your knowledge of the conflict over there could be compared to dog poop.
 

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You really need to open a history book, and read what has happened to the people of Palestine before Oct 7, 2023.

You also need to educate yourself on the history of Hamas.

To say you have zero sympathy for innocent humans where they never asked for any of this.

To think Israel is this saving grace and a beacon for hope, has to be the most laughable thing I have read all day meanwhile your knowledge of the conflict over there could be compared to dog poop.
Did you see the condition of the 3 hostages that were released? They looked like concentration camp survivors. You are talking about animals and monsters. These people were civilians who were kidnapped from their homes. You could very well be one of them. You think it would have made a difference to them?
 

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Did you see the condition of the 3 hostages that were released? They looked like concentration camp survivors. You are talking about animals and monsters. These people were civilians who were kidnapped from their homes. You could very well be one of them. You think it would have made a difference?

So in one context we have hostages

But when a Palestinian gets released they are a prisoner… and have you seen their condition?

Also, please read up on how many Palestinians have been in prison and for their crimes.

I’ll gladly wait for the response on this one.
 

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Also, please read up on how many Palestinians have been in prison and for their crimes.

I’ll gladly wait for the response on this one.
What are you talking about???? Your post is total nonsense / dog poop. How can you compare criminals who are in prison for their crimes to innocent civilians kidnapped from their homes? And who were released looking like concentration camp victims?
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It's great to see the Israeli and other hostages held by Hamas in the process of being released. However, Hamas, as would be expected, is making a humiliating spectacle out of the process by parading the hostages in public before their handover to Israeli. For that and many other reasons, I have no sympathy for the people of Gaza. Yes, they have suffered and died a lot in this war but that was the inevitable result of the war that they started on October 7, 2023.

As soon as I learned the terrible details of the October 7 attack, I knew what would happen to Hamas and Gaza (and eventually Lebanon and Hezbollah) and I have supported every action that Israel has taken in response. Indeed, I am thankful to Israel for acting so decisively and effectively to wage war against the the terrorist armies of the Palestinians. It was an unexpected blessing that Iran got directly involved and then had most of their air defense system wiped out. As General Sherman said at the start of the U.S. Civil War, “War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.”
Hope sharing your hate helps you.
 

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What are you talking about???? Your post is total nonsense / dog poop. How can you compare criminals who are in prison for their crimes to innocent civilians kidnapped from their homes? And who were released looking like concentration camp victims?
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And now please share some images of innocent Palestine civilians being shoved into prisons for no criminal records

Also please share images of doctors who were abused and tortured.

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And now please share some images of innocent Palestine civilians being shoved into prisons for no criminal records

Also please share images of doctors who were abused and tortured.

Awaiting your response.
Why don't you share images of all the innocent Palestinians and doctors and nurses in hospitals used by Hamas as Human Shields? They ended up dead! As would you have if you were in the way. If you were at the music festival, or your kids, you would all be dead as doornails or hostages- no questions asked.
 
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These are hard facts about Gaza. When Israel occupied it in 1967 it was Egyptian territory with population of about 340K. After 1973 war when the Whole Sinai Peninsula was returned to Egypt in accordance with peace settlement, Egypt categorically refused to take Gaza back.

Gaza's claimed fertility rate in 90’s was above 8 children per women and on average above 4 after 2000. The current populations in accordance with internal census is claimed to be about 2.18M though many independent researchers estimate it to be at least 0.5M less as there is a lot of falsifications to boost income from aid. Gaza has practically no industry and very underdeveloped agriculture due to little amount of farmland. The average age in Gaza is about 18 and most under 30 are unemployed . Before Hamas took power about 100K Gazans worked in Israel especially in factories specifically build on the Israeli side of the Gaza border. Now it is out of question as you do not employ potential killers of your kids.

So, there is a real dilemma: continue business as usual by taking care of the whole Gaza population giving it all initiative to breed (more children more family aid) or do something about it? So, who is crazy Tramp who proposed Gaza resettlement or the world together with UN that want this madness to continue giving Gaza aid that tops what other countries get combined?
 

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These are hard facts about Gaza. When Israel occupied it in 1967 it was Egyptian territory with population of about 340K. After 1973 war when the Whole Sinai Peninsula was returned to Egypt in accordance with peace settlement, Egypt categorically refused to take Gaza back.
Gaza's claimed fertility rate in 90’s was above 8 children per women and on average above 4 after 2000. The current populations in accordance with internal census is claimed to be about 2.18M though many independent researchers estimate it to be at least 0.5M less as there is a lot of falsifications to boost income from aid. Gaza has practically no industry and very underdeveloped agriculture due to little amount of farmland. The average age in Gaza is about 18 and most under 30 are unemployed . Before Hamas took power about 100K Gazans worked in Israel especially in factories specifically build on the Israeli side of the Gaza border. Now it is out of question as you do not employ potential killers of your kids.

So, there is a real dilemma: continue business as usual by taking care of the whole Gaza population giving it all initiative to breed (more children more family aid) or do something about it? So, who is crazy Tramp who proposed Gaza resettlement or the world together with UN that want this madness to continue giving Gaza aid that tops what other countries get combined?
Gaza's sole notable export is terror, to Israel, which has an actual economy. Egypt wasn't stupid to refuse to take Gaza back, as it had no value in 1973 and has no value now. It's a net liability to whomever rules it, and an international monetary drain.
 
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Hamas and the Palestinians should have paid more heed to the wisdom of General Sherman:

“You might as well appeal against a thunderstorm as against these terrible hardships of war. War is cruelty, there is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.”
― William Tecumseh Sherman

“You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out. I know I had no hand in making this war, and I know I will make more sacrifices to-day than any of you to secure peace.”
― William T. Sherman

“You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about.
War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it … Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors.
You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail.”
― William T. Sherman

“You might as well appeal against the thunder-storm as against these terrible hardships of war. They are inevitable, and the only way the people of Atlanta can hope once more to live in peace and quiet at home, is to stop the war, which can only be done by admitting that it began in error and is perpetuated in pride.”
― William Tecumseh Sherman
 

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Does anyone see a pattern here?

Islamist Terrorist Attacks in the World 1979-2021

Between 1979 and May 2021, we counted 48,035 Islamist terrorist attacks around the world, which have resulted in the deaths of at least 210,138 people.

• 1979-2000: 2,194 attacks and 6,817 deaths.
• 2001-2012: 8,265 attacks and 38,186 deaths.
• 2013-May 2021: 37,576 attacks and 165,135 deaths.

Explosives were the most used weapon (43.9% in 21,082 attacks), followed by firearms (16,649 attacks), melee weapons such as knives or machetes (2,120 attacks), and incendiary weapons (960 attacks).
 

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Does anyone see a pattern here?

Islamist Terrorist Attacks in the World 1979-2021

Between 1979 and May 2021, we counted 48,035 Islamist terrorist attacks around the world, which have resulted in the deaths of at least 210,138 people.

• 1979-2000: 2,194 attacks and 6,817 deaths.
• 2001-2012: 8,265 attacks and 38,186 deaths.
• 2013-May 2021: 37,576 attacks and 165,135 deaths.

Explosives were the most used weapon (43.9% in 21,082 attacks), followed by firearms (16,649 attacks), melee weapons such as knives or machetes (2,120 attacks), and incendiary weapons (960 attacks).
Could you give the casualties of all the religions, it would be far more interesting. Without being biased, why would 10 years for American invasion on a Middle Eastern country that results on hundreds of thousands of deaths not be counted as terrorism. The bombs are terrifying, the one that unleashs them is as much of a monster as any 'terrorist' portrayed in the media, a U.S stciker or an Israeli one doesn't give the permission to blow out women and children lol.
 
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Whether you like it or not Hamas is the worst criminal terrorist jihadist organisation that ever existed
They don’t want the f… g 2 state solution that the poor useful idiots like you want ton give them
Their jihadist islamic crap ideology cannot accept the existence of anything else in that land than them and their shitty religion
They would show no mercy for jews or Christian if they had the chance to take over israel. They don’t even hide it but they are still some idiots who don’t want to see it probably driven by some degree of antisemitism
Palestinian don’t deserve a state because this is not what they want. If they really wanted a state they had a dozen chances to make it happen in the past 80 years
 

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Could you give the casualties of all the religions, it would be far more interesting. Without being biased, why would 10 years for American invasion on a Middle Eastern country that results on hundreds of thousands of deaths not be counted as terrorism. The bombs are terrifying, the one that unleashs them is as much of a monster as any 'terrorist' portrayed in the media, a U.S stciker or an Israeli one doesn't give the permission to blow out women and children lol.
This is completely biased nonsense! Do you not understand that Hamas doesn't want what you want, they are all about Death and Destruction of Israel and occupation of Israel? Please get an education at Prager U. All of the liberals like you who lend a voice to the so called 2 State Solution don't understand the basic 80 year history that the Palestinian leadership has never wanted it! It's totally stupid until you educate yourself at the U:
What about Hamas' butchery of Israeli citizens? Whatever misery they brought upon Gaza was their doing, and most of it they are directly responsible for by basing military operations in areas surrounded by civilian shields. They don't conduct war operations according to international law so whatever carnage has occurred they get 1000% of the responsibility for this collateral damage!

Your posts are very ignorant and insulting to all of the brave Israeli troops who face horrors that nobody on this board can possibly understand. They are fighting the most evil forces on this planet. You should be ashamed of posting such trolling ignorance!
 
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This is completely biased nonsense! Do you not understand that Hamas doesn't want what you want, they are all about Death and Destruction of Israel and occupation of Israel? Please get an education at Prager U. All of the liberals like you who lend a voice to the so called 2 State Solution don't understand the basic 80 year history that the Palestinian leadership has never wanted it! It's totally stupid until you educate yourself at the U:
What about Hamas' butchery of Israeli citizens? Whatever misery they brought upon Gaza was their doing, and most of it they are directly responsible for by basing military operations in areas surrounded by civilian shields. They don't conduct war operations according to international law so whatever carnage has occurred they get 1000% of the responsibility for this collateral damage!

Your posts are very ignorant and insulting to all of the brave Israeli troops who face horrors that nobody on this board can possibly understand. They are fighting the most evil forces on this planet. You should be ashamed of posting such trolling ignorance!
Lol brave Israeli troops?

Using sniper rifles to murder women, children and news reporters as target practise?

How about we talk about the murder of Hind Rajab

World Central Aid workers murdered

Oh Oui Oui the IDF, the beacon of soldiers!

Typical Zionist talk here, the pure route of evil and deep racism. But if you call them out on it, you’re a antisemite. Which is hilarious
 

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Lol brave Israeli troops?

Using sniper rifles to murder women, children and news reporters as target practise?

How about we talk about the murder of Hind Rajab

World Central Aid workers murdered

Oh Oui Oui the IDF, the beacon of soldiers!

Typical Zionist talk here, the pure route of evil and deep racism. But if you call them out on it, you’re a antisemite. Which is hilarious
I am surprised to see how ignorant most of the people are on the subject, as if it all started in October 7. Multiple massacres, apartheid, the infamous Nakba and all the atrocities that comes with it.

The people supporting Isreal are either religious extremists that would do everything possible to pursue some kind of "prophecy" including killing every non-jewish (women and children included) in Palestine to take control of the land, or are eitheir bought by them (Aipac and all the zionist oligarchs obviously) or simply people that enjoy seeing brown people and muslims 11 000 kilometers away die.

If you still believe that after 80 years of ethnic cleansing in the region Israelis are the good people, you are not "supporting" them you are them.
 
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