Hamas & Israel

[EagerBeaver]

Are you suggesting that the Israeli government should ignore the events of October 7th and act as if nothing happened?

In fact many are suggesting a normalization of accepting terroristic acts against civilian populations. Such mass acceptance of this kind of behavior and the belief that it is NOT an act of war, but rather legitimate and acceptable acts of protest, spells the end of human civilization as we know it and the beginning of a rapid decline towards anarchy and self-destruction of the entire world. If Hamas were somehow allowed to survive this conflict politically intact, and in power, this result will have very profound and significant repercussions for the future of the rest of the world. It will send the message that it's OK to selectively or even randomly murder innocent civilians if it is done for a "proper" reason, to advance a cause or because the offending group is "oppressed", even though the truth is that the offending group is self-oppressed. This type of mentality is very disturbing and alarming for our future as a civilization. Unfortunately, the modern ability to manipulate social media to advance such political agendas in such a way as to sway mass opinion makes these very alarming concerns seem very real for our future.

 

[CaptRenault]

 

[minutemenX]

I Unfortunately, the modern ability to manipulate social media to advance such political agendas in such a way as to sway mass opinion makes these very alarming concerns seem very real for our future.

Indeed, most mass media presents a very destorted picture.

Look who is underdog here:

Arabs- 450 M. Israelis- 9M. Total Jews 15-18 M

Add to this Iran, Turkey, Pakistan....

Everybody talks about Palestinians as they are the main players. In reality they are just a “frontman” manipulated by backstage players that are not interested in peace and are ready to resist “Israeli occupation” to the last Palestinian. What Iranian land Israel occupies? Why Hezbollah is preparing for war with Israel with 100,000 rockets ready to be launched against Israeli cities? Israel does not occupy any land in Lebanon. Why has Turkey declared to be ready to free Palestine by force and at the same time is bombing and killing fellow Muslim Kurds denying them statehood for over 60 years? Why is Bahrain giving Hamas money for tunnels and weapons instead of encouraging Egypt to open border with Gaza by building road infrastructure in Sinai? What Israel has to do with Yemen, from whom Iranian puppets launching rockets? Why is Syria hosting 60K Iranian Revolutionary guards ready to move across the northern Israeli border any day? Does people in all these countries are prosperous and enjoy free democracy and only Palestinians are the last Arabs suffering from injustice? I tell you that without such “friends” Palestinians would make peace with Israel long time ago with arrangements that benefit both people.

 

[wiinston17]

Some food for thought from a survivor in Kibbutz Be’eri. Very wise for their age, understandably due to the trauma they endured.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1713166804896317799

 

[minutemenX]

Go insult police in Montreal. You will have the same treatment and in NYC it would be much worse.

 

[CaptRenault]

What does “From the river to the sea…” really mean?

 

[Anna Bijou]

Baby killers:
Disregard this post, it doesn't contain confirmation bias friendly content and therefore completely useless for you.
Just saving you some time, on the slight chance that you might actually read it. haha who am I kidding?!

Have a nice day!

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Everyone else who doesn't publicly defend Baby killing: Read on..
So I've realized not everyone actually cares if they know what they're talking about before they talk about stuff. And I know that's not the people who would care about anything that falls outside of their confirmation bias. So, this is really not for those people. It's not important or convenient when one chooses the position of Baby Killer apologist. However, I do know some people value adding to their knowledge and getting a solid understanding.

Of course, this information isn't hard to find for anyone who wants to.
You can find a thorough explanation here and a good list for further reading at the bottom of that page (the website is worth a visit).


I'll also leave this for you guys.

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Also:


“It’s important to remember this chant is in English and it doesn’t rhyme in Arabic, it is used in demonstrations in Western countries,” he said. “The controversy has been fabricated to prevent solidarity in the West with the Palestinians.”


Duh.

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Here's little bonus... Baby killers not really original or clever, eh?
Social media will continue to bring the lies to the light of day. It's also livestreaming as we speak the imminent expulsion of Palestinians of Gaza by Israel. They're making them walk - those who can. And they're going to push them out while the world watches and the baby killer cheerleaders cheers. The only name for that is ethnic cleansing. The Baby killers must have the biggest boner watching it while defending baby killing..

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[wiinston17]

Apparently, chanting it is enough for an arrest for hate crime:

https://x.com/CalgaryPolice/status/1722015939498311912?s=20

And then we have idiots (i.e. absolute human garbage aka their mom should have swallowed) doing this:

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...mmunity-centre-firebombed-montreal-police-say

Firebombing a synagogue is ANTISEMITIC and is a disgrace to what peaceful protesters are standing for. Chanting from the river to the sea is NOT.

Here is my own interpretation of it:

From the river to the sea,
We dream that someday,
Palestinians and Israelis,
Will forever live in harmony

I invite anyone wanting to understanding more about this conflict to watch this video which is free from propaganda and biases inherent to mainstream media. If a picture is worth a thousand words... imagine what a video can tell you

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720747025593966674

 

[Anna Bijou]

At this point, most people who pay attention for longer than 2min understand what is going on. You see it by the enormous crowds protesting, you see it on social media ESPECIALLY with people under 30./ At this point, there are SO MANY American and Canadian Jewish voices speaking honestly and credibly that expose the baby killer crowds, the old guard, desperately recycling the lies and dehumanizing of Palestinians, the devaluing of their lives, the depraved narrative that turns their victim into the aggressor.... It's a house of cards and it's getting windy.

Baby killers are the only ones who can continue to deny what's right in front of our faces. Baby killers are antisemitic. They're the ones conflating Judaism to Zionism. They're the ones putting all Jews at risk by handing over weapons to antisemites and showing them where they can find a synagogue to bomb. They're literally giving them the fuel and fire too. But we're talking about baby killer apologists, is it that surprising?

Baby killers have destroyed all of our humanity. I'm not going to stop referring to baby killers as such, because baby killers shouldn't get to pretend they're not killing babies. I'll make sure everyone's reminded of it and of their defense of close to 4000 killed babies in the last month only and the effects will continue to kill even more even after the bombs finally stop.

 

[minutemenX]

. You see it by the enormous crowds protesting, you see it on social media ESPECIALLY with people under 30./

When guns are at work all discussions are pointless as war has its own logic and has to come to conclusion. As Yasser Arafat used to say “ You can go now and drink water from the Dead Sea if you don’t like our response”

As for people under 30 protesting, there was a saying: If you are not a socialist in your 20’s you have no hart, if you continue to be a socialist in your 40’s than you have no brains.

 

[poupsy]

Including violating the Geneva Convention and intentionally targetting women and children? "But they were military targets". How bad is Israel intelligence gathering ? You'd think we would only be hearing of military targets hit with the greatest space laser precision ... the hipocrisy is truly numbing. You can't get away with that shit anymore. For the same reason Russia can't keep pushing the Nazi narrative without getting laughed at by the entire world.

You'd think the world would have learnt by now that the approach of crushing a weaker population into submission no longer works. For every child and woman murdered, 1000 worldwide are rising against Zionist Israel. Israel has literally become the Nazis. And Israel still stands crying and guilting the world while trying to reverse the narrative that they are victims. No fucking shame at all.

You know you've fucked up when the world would rather support Hamas (or ISIS) over Israel, including jewish people. Take the hint already.

And before you bring up how Israel is a victim in this :

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Israel are the exact opposite of what a victim is:

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ISRAEL IS NOT A

Apparently, chanting it is enough for an arrest for hate crime:

https://x.com/CalgaryPolice/status/1722015939498311912?s=20

And then we have idiots (i.e. absolute human garbage aka their mom should have swallowed) doing this:

https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...mmunity-centre-firebombed-montreal-police-say

Firebombing a synagogue is ANTISEMITIC and is a disgrace to what peaceful protesters are standing for. Chanting from the river to the sea is NOT.

Here is my own interpretation of it:

From the river to the sea,
We dream that someday,
Palestinians and Israelis,
Will forever live in harmony

I invite anyone wanting to understanding more about this conflict to watch this video which is free from propaganda and biases inherent to mainstream media. If a picture is worth a thousand words... imagine what a video can tell you

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720747025593966674

first sentence of this videos is already a lie. no israeli solder was setting foot in Gaza.
no wonder so much hate

i invite you to look a t this one :

 

[wiinston17]

first sentence of this videos is already a lie. no israeli solder was setting foot in Gaza.
no wonder so much hate

i invite you to look a t this one :

how about these ones then... lie too?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1721510927772811534

https://twitter.com/x/status/1722050036786209273

https://twitter.com/x/status/1721950302369202637

https://twitter.com/x/status/1721222064009306245

https://twitter.com/x/status/1721191240849293745

This is the beauty of social media. It exposes so many truths that isn't shown on mainstream media to cover the absolute barbaric actions committed by the IDF in the name of "self-defense".

 

[wiinston17]

And what about these ones? Lies too?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1721180543566381308

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720457616822858102

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720459569296474530

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720467055126945823

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720466888608600457

 

[wiinston17]

first sentence of this videos is already a lie. no israeli solder was setting foot in Gaza.
no wonder so much hate

I forgot to say, watch the video on mute. The content is self explanatory

 

[nothinghere]

Very strange in regard to Oct 7 Hamas attack.
Might explain a lot of Hamas footage.
News in today:

Israel demands action ...Jerusalem Post

"The Jerusalem Press Club stated, "If indeed representatives of news agencies and significant networks were aware in advance of the expected massacre, it raises initial concerns about complicity in a crime or failure to prevent the murder."

News agencies with Hamas to get Hamas footage Oct 7?
The Body Cam Hamas terrorists paid by News agencies to get the footage?
Journalists don't work for free. Big money in spectacular war footage.
These news journalists knew in advance of the initial Oct 7 attack?
What a mess.

 

[EagerBeaver]

This is the beauty of social media. It exposes so many truths

This is total nonsense. Social media is used to spread more lies and propaganda than "truths". Most people with half a brain can find hundreds of social media posts on any political issue to support whatever they think the "truth" actually is. We can have 100 posts with one hundred different "truths". Your "truths" are your "truths" and nobody else's.

 

[wiinston17]

This is total nonsense. Social media is used to spread more lies and propaganda than "truths". Most people with half a brain can find hundreds of social media posts on any political issue to support whatever they think the "truth" actually is. We can have 100 posts with one hundred different "truths". Your "truths" are your "truths" and nobody else's.

First off, I didn't say social media was the be all end all. Furthermore, these platforms allows me to look at videos that the Western media refuse to air either due to censorship or hidden political agendas and then come to my own conclusion. I couldn't care less about influencers or celebrities' opinion on the matter.

Video footages recorded on phones are the most useful tool for the victims to bridge the gap with regard to the blatant information asymmetry with the likes of Fox, CNN etc in addition to Israel killing journalists like in communists/authoritarian regimes. Hell, even Al Jazeera who reports on both side pretty moderately is made out to be a pariah.

While we can agree to disagree on the meaning of "truth", video evidence is REAL evidence and I refuse to put my tin foil hat on and pretend that it was all staged.

Lastly, why does Israel invest so much in "Hasbara" to control the social media narrative? Israel in a social media context is exactly what you claim it is: " Social media is used to spread more lies and propaganda than "truths".

 

[wiinston17]

This is total nonsense. Social media is used to spread more lies and propaganda than "truths". Most people with half a brain can find hundreds of social media posts on any political issue to support whatever they think the "truth" actually is. We can have 100 posts with one hundred different "truths". Your "truths" are your "truths" and nobody else's.

I presume you would attribute this video as propaganda as well. At this point, this type of "propaganda" is Chicken Soup for the Soul.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1722714413474386407

 

[wiinston17]

Amid war and urgent need to ID bodies, evidence of Hamas’s October 7 rapes slips away

Despite definitive witness testimony, global skepticism persists about the terrorists' sexual crimes. ToI investigates how a mass-casualty event in a war zone made forensic determination impossible

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[poupsy]

Indeed, most mass media presents a very destorted picture.

Look who is underdog here:

Arabs- 450 M. Israelis- 9M. Total Jews 15-18 M

Add to this Iran, Turkey, Pakistan....

View attachment 59757

Everybody talks about Palestinians as they are the main players. In reality they are just a “frontman” manipulated by backstage players that are not interested in peace and are ready to resist “Israeli occupation” to the last Palestinian. What Iranian land Israel occupies? Why Hezbollah is preparing for war with Israel with 100,000 rockets ready to be launched against Israeli cities? Israel does not occupy any land in Lebanon. Why has Turkey declared to be ready to free Palestine by force and at the same time is bombing and killing fellow Muslim Kurds denying them statehood for over 60 years? Why is Bahrain giving Hamas money for tunnels and weapons instead of encouraging Egypt to open border with Gaza by building road infrastructure in Sinai? What Israel has to do with Yemen, from whom Iranian puppets launching rockets? Why is Syria hosting 60K Iranian Revolutionary guards ready to move across the northern Israeli border any day? Does people in all these countries are prosperous and enjoy free democracy and only Palestinians are the last Arabs suffering from injustice? I tell you that without such “friends” Palestinians would make peace with Israel long time ago with arrangements that benefit both people.

you nailed it!