Hamas & Israel
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From Bloomberg :
The United Nations General Assembly demanded Wednesday that Israel withdraw from the Palestinian territories captured in 1967, end the settlement of the West Bank and allow displaced Palestinians and their descendants to return.
The nonbinding resolution put forward by the Palestinian Authority reaffirms a recent advisory opinion by the UN’s International Court of Justice, which said in July that Israel should end its “unlawful” presence in the Palestinian territories of the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza.
The resolution says that Israel must return within a year the land and other assets seized from Palestinians since its occupation began in 1967.
The resolution drew 124 votes in favor, including from France, Japan and China. The US, Israel and 12 other countries voted against the motion, while 43 abstained.
I’m sorry but the UN is becoming a real joke. UN lost total moral compass
There was a great documentary on radio- canada grand reportages (yesterday) explaining how dictatorships ( russia china iran and other arab contries) are hijacking current democratic systems to change world order and undermine democracies
It is absolutely scary and it is paving the road for a worldwide conflict
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How about the 1947 UN resolution which the Palestinians rejected after which they attacked Israel, attempted to destroy it and lost? Are you saying they get to cherry pick on their UN resolutions, or are you doing the cherry picking for them? Is your attitude no on the 1947 resolution, yes on 1967 and let's ignore the 3 lost wars in between? Exactly what kind of position is that?
Very easy to understand. The last resolution is the result of everything that happened before.
What about this resolution?
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1701 is a resolution that was intended to resolve the 2006 Lebanon War. The resolution calls for a full cessation of hostilities between Israel and Hezbollah, the withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon to be replaced by Lebanese and UNIFIL forces deploying to southern Lebanon, and the disarmament of armed groups including Hezbollah, with no armed forces other than UNIFIL and Lebanese military south of the Litani River/
Talk about cherry picking. As far as I know Hezbollah is larger than ever and is again attacking Israel since October 2023
Fin is cherry picking with the UN Resolutions in a way that is ridiculous. The very first one which was probably the fairest one was rejected in a mass walkout and caused an armed invasion of Israel. How do you keep losing wars you started again and again due to incompetent leadership both politically and militarily and get to have an upper hand in any new post war resolutions? In what universe does this make any sense? In fact the US and Canada invaded Native American lands, not the other way around. Has USA or Canada been subject to any resolutions to give land back? The USA and Canada were never attacked by Native Americans except in isolated situations after their lands had already been invaded and controlled. So how does this UN resolution cherry picking work in the world of historical logic?
At what time in history ever did a country that started a war and lost gotten land back?
At what time in history ever did a country that started a war and lost gotten land back?
Let’s be clear Israel would have been wiped out if they had lost any of this war or the next one.
This one is no different
iran hamas and hezbollah intentions are very clear.
Why should israel take a chance??
If it comes down to life or death I’m not sure what the rules of engagement are at this point
Cherrypicking? You can pick anything from the past. This is what is happening now. This resolution was adopted by UN assembly yesterday. The very day I posted.
Why do you pick something 20 years ago. I was talking about yesterday's UN general assembly resolution. This is what the international community says now.
So what a bunch of ignoramuses who know nothing about the history (or else ignore it) did a vote, and then someone wrote a poorly researched newspaper article about the vote that you read, and they all must be right? Are you fucking kidding with this post? You really are a sheep in the flock. Beware following the Sheperd, dude, as he is not leading you to the path of greater learning.
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Yes we have to recognize that Israel has mastered the art of Mass Killings. Their terrorism has reached levels never witnessed before. They are also able to argue with amazing arrogance that kids and civilians are also dangerous to their existence......Do not forget also that any critique to their actions is anti semitic, like any tyrant that considers criticizing his actions dangerous for security.
What are you talking about? The brilliance of this operation is that it is the most precise targeting of the enemy force ever known. There is an absolute minimum of civilian collateral damage.
Total horseshit- are you aware one of the dead is the mastermind of the 1983 attack that killed 300 people? This is who you are defending?
Beirut strike kills suspect in 1983 bombings that killed 300 Americans
The strikes come after Hezbollah's leader vowed to take revenge on Israel who it accuses of an audacious attack on pagers and handheld radios.
Absolutely brilliant and will be looked at historically as a state of the art attack to disrupt communications of a terrorist network not fighting as a traditional military. It will be in textbooks on military strategy in those situations.
Are you talking about the bombing today? I was referring to the pager bombing which are 2 different events. However, on that note, were the marines killed in New York? Didn't they go to support Israel's Invasion of Beirut? As much as I hate seeing US soldiers dying, especially that I am certain they had good intentions (the marines, not the politicians), they were on Lebanese soil. This leads to another discussion about the current political policies of the US.Total horseshit- are you aware one of the dead is the mastermind of the 1983 attack that killed 300 people? This is who you are defending?
By the way what exactly would you do if you were in Israel's position in response to Hezbollah's attacks? Do you even get that these groups are committed to the destruction of Israel? What is Israel supposed to do except defend itself as it has?Beirut strike kills suspect in 1983 bombings that killed 300 Americans
The strikes come after Hezbollah's leader vowed to take revenge on Israel who it accuses of an audacious attack on pagers and handheld radios.www.yahoo.com
Only this fascist government supporters will think that killing invaders is terrorism, while the invader's killings is self-defense. I will keep repeating it: Israel has no legitimate claim to Self-defense. It is the occupier not the other way around.
This idea that it is ok to bomb a school full of kids to kill few terrorists is simply the definition of terrorism. Killing civilians to promote a political agenda is terrorism. It has no religion or color. You would like it to equate to Arabs or Islam, but it is not. Israel use terror to scare people so that they surrender and bend to its wishes. How can you defeat someone not scared of death. Certainly not by threatening him with death.
If Netanyahu really wants peace and not domination, he needs to give peace not more settlements and massacres.
You should ask the question in Reverse, What are the Palestinians to do when they are occupied, controlled, abused, jailed (even kids are jailed), massacred, and pushed out of their lands? Netanyahu wants to send the Gazan to Sinai, and the west Bank to Jordan. The other mini minister forgot his name, wants to nuke them.
The truth is simple, Netanyahu is committing terrorism with he the purpose of ethnic cleansing. The world is watching, like it did with the other madman of History (Hitler). When they reacted, the cost was too high. It seems we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes.
Not sure where you get your news from man, but they are always missing. You see Hezbollah is not only a militant group, they are a political, and a social one. The fighters, which your likes believe to be terrorists, had low casualties. Most if the casualties belonged to the 2 other groups.
And how would you know this? One of the casualties is a wanted terrorist who killed 300 people. Anyway, you didn't answer my question because there is no answer except that Israel defended itself in the only way it can, against an organization committed to the destruction of Israel.
Well, Netanyahu is committed to wipe out Palestinians and wants the whole region to become Israel. So it is not self defense, unless you are assuming that Palestinians are guilty just because they are Palestinians, and happened to be born on that land. Hamas and Hezbollah, if like you said, are bent on destroying Israel, they are not the whole people. If Israel wants peace, there are so many Palestinians and Arabs willing, and they have tried with the Oslo agreement. Blockade, massacres, and settlements increase are the complete opposite of peace.
I am going to repeat one of my favorite quotes" it is not who you are underneath, its what you do that defines you". Terrorism is terrorism, coming from a group or an army. The conventions and treaties after world war 2 are set to minimize the first. Natenyahu does not care, and will keep going.
