How important is her “O”
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I try my best, sometimes succeed and sometimes fail. Not an issue if I fail.
Extremely important... But only if she is important too. I'd say it was just as important as scoring was for Gretzky.
But that's from past experience... I have retired and for personal reasons no longer seeing any women. Let's just call it self imposed therapy.
I'd be curious to know how many women actually have an orgasm during a session.
IMO not that many, it’s not their goal.
What kind of question is that, really? Who's paying whom here? If she's the one having an orgasm, technically, she should be paying for the pleasure, not the other way around. Always keep the transactional nature of this arrangement in mind.
Now, before I piss off too many people, let me be clear. I am joking. My honest answer is, I don’t go out of my way to ensure the women has an orgasm. Usually, there isn’t time in a session to figure out what each of us likes. It’s a bonus if it happens, but hardly a requirement. And frankly, whether a girl orgasms or not, I take it with a grain of salt. Given the provider-client dynamic, she’s selling a fantasy. She'll say anything to enhance that fantasy—like praising my size when it's average, claiming I made her orgasm when I can barely get things positioned right, or flattering my looks and personality when, let’s be honest, I know what I am. So, if she has an orgasm, fine. If not, that's fine too. Sometimes I don’t either, and that's also okay. It’s not about performance on command for either of us. Just enjoy the time you have together.
Now, before I piss off too many people, let me be clear. I am joking. My honest answer is, I don’t go out of my way to ensure the women has an orgasm. Usually, there isn’t time in a session to figure out what each of us likes. It’s a bonus if it happens, but hardly a requirement. And frankly, whether a girl orgasms or not, I take it with a grain of salt. Given the provider-client dynamic, she’s selling a fantasy. She'll say anything to enhance that fantasy—like praising my size when it's average, claiming I made her orgasm when I can barely get things positioned right, or flattering my looks and personality when, let’s be honest, I know what I am. So, if she has an orgasm, fine. If not, that's fine too. Sometimes I don’t either, and that's also okay. It’s not about performance on command for either of us. Just enjoy the time you have together.
So to summarize, your answer to the question is no, it’s not important to you.
On the point about it being a fantasy, I would submit the following; is it really a fantasy, or is it, as I would propose, an experience. Heck even the granddaddy of all sex worker acronyms is ‘GFE’, with emphasis on the last letter of that ‘TLA’ (three letter acronym) being ‘E’.
According to the Oxford dictionary, ‘fantasy’ is defined as follows;
{ the faculty or activity of imagining things, especially things that are impossible or improbable }
You can fantasize about sex by yourself, you can’t experience sex by yourself, otherwise sex workers might be out of a job…
When either party approaches the interaction as just a fantasy, it can bring the ‘experience’ down to its lowest common denominator and renders both parties as simple object participants. It’s a form of acting. I would also submit that for some providers, depending on the client in front of them, the most they may be willing to offer is indeed a role playing 'experience' because they would probably never have sex with that particular person by choice had they not been a sex worker. As the expression goes, ‘not in a million years’.
Providing an ‘O’ to a provider, is likely not even part of the equation when both parties approach it as a simple transaction. Which is probably true in most cases.
But for those looking for a genuine 'experience' (client and/or provider) it may be a natural outcome of the ‘experience’ which over time if rapport is built, nurtured, and evolved, may prove to be a more fulfilling over all ‘experience’.
Women are after all, human beings first and foremost, and not just objects of ‘fantasies’.
On a side note, if porn addiction, only fans and all the other forms of 2-D sex is an issue for you, consider that maybe you’re spending too much time ‘Fantasizing’.
My couch is always available, should you need
Best, CJ
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So to summarize, your answer to the question is no, it’s not important to you.
On the point about it being a fantasy, I would submit the following; is it really a fantasy, or is it, as I would propose, an experience. Heck even the granddaddy of all sex worker acronyms is ‘GFE’, with emphasis on the last letter of that ‘TLA’ (three letter acronym) being ‘E’.
According to the Oxford dictionary, ‘fantasy’ is defined as follows;
{ the faculty or activity of imagining things, especially things that are impossible or improbable }
You can fantasize about sex by yourself, you can’t experience sex by yourself, otherwise sex workers might be out of a job…
When either party approaches the interaction as just a fantasy, it can bring the ‘experience’ down to its lowest common denominator and renders both parties as simple object participants. It’s a form of acting. I would also submit that for some providers, depending on the client in front of them, the most they may be willing to offer is indeed a role playing 'experience' because they would probably never have sex with that particular person by choice had they not been a sex worker. As the expression goes, ‘not in a million years’.
Providing an ‘O’ to a provider, is likely not even part of the equation when both parties approach it as a simple transaction. Which is probably true in most cases.
But for those looking for a genuine 'experience' (client and/or provider) it may be a natural outcome of the ‘experience’ which over time if rapport is built, nurtured, and evolved, may prove to be a more fulfilling over all ‘experience’.
Women are after all, human beings first and foremost, and not just objects of ‘fantasies’.
On a side note, if porn addiction, only fans and all the other forms of 2-D sex is an issue for you, consider that maybe you’re spending too much time ‘Fantasizing’.
My couch is always available, should you need
Best, CJ
Not sure if you're directing this at me, but I’ll bite. I work 16-18 hours a day in a high-stress environment managing, frankly, a bunch of idiots across various locations, with significant financial stakes involved at any moment. And I’m only 24, so enduring stamina and rapid recovery are just part of the package at my age. I approach sex work much like others might approach bowling, laser tag, or golf—a hobby I engage in 3-4 times a week. The need for an orgasm shouldn’t be mandatory for either party. I understand the pressure women feel to ensure the guy finishes, but that misses the point.
You mention that you can't experience sex solo, which is true. However, the value of sex workers isn’t solely in the act itself. It’s not that hard to meet someone at a bar or even a library. I don't pay sex workers just for sex. I pay for the freedom to engage or disengage without their input or follow-up expectations, without any concern about future interactions or social obligations. It's the convenience, the transactional simplicity of the arrangement that appeals to me, not just the physical act.
So to summarize, it's not that important to you. Gotcha.
So, I mostly visit MPs as I suffer from a lot of muscle tension and pain, so I get the benefit of relaxation as well as a HE... now, the MPs I have seen that offer more, I always try to make it worth it for them too lol. I'm gonna get my HE, they should too.
That being said, many of the ones I have met don't allow for adequate extras to reach their O.
Now, when I have met SPs, it depends on the session... I would say, the SPs that offer GFE, I have been way more successful in my missions for their O, but when it's not GFE, I am mostly there for me and my pleasure, and in the few experiences I've had like this, the providers were not at all working for their O (but rather working so I get mine as fast as possible lol)...
To summarize:
MPs: I will do my best with what's allowed, seldom do I get the job done.
GFE SPs: I make it my mission to get them off before me.
Non-GFE SPs: usually I don't try too hard, because I get the vibe that they'll just fake it anyways.
That being said, many of the ones I have met don't allow for adequate extras to reach their O.
Now, when I have met SPs, it depends on the session... I would say, the SPs that offer GFE, I have been way more successful in my missions for their O, but when it's not GFE, I am mostly there for me and my pleasure, and in the few experiences I've had like this, the providers were not at all working for their O (but rather working so I get mine as fast as possible lol)...
To summarize:
MPs: I will do my best with what's allowed, seldom do I get the job done.
GFE SPs: I make it my mission to get them off before me.
Non-GFE SPs: usually I don't try too hard, because I get the vibe that they'll just fake it anyways.
Its funny because what i read here apparently everyone makes the providers orgasm at an unprecedented rate ! Lol
@Toto beefcake
Your YMMV isn’t up to par yet and you need to do better in order to “unlock” that feature
My “O” is the last thing I expect… because I’m being paid to get you to O…
I actually enjoy doing that to men and seeing it - I collect these metaphorical O’s, let it get to my head to then come here & boast about it. JOKE.
But yeah. It does happen that I do arrive but it’s not a given.
I actually enjoy doing that to men and seeing it - I collect these metaphorical O’s, let it get to my head to then come here & boast about it. JOKE.
But yeah. It does happen that I do arrive but it’s not a given.
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