ID requirements

[freezin]

To avoid hijacking another thread... I decided to continue this conversation its own thread....

I am trying to figure out a way to balance my need for privacy and the SP's need to verify who I am.
Some merbites have advised ... "never give out your personal identification"
.....on the other hand however.....
Here are quotes from the websites of a few Montreal SP's (that I would like to visit) to the contrary:

From My French Muse: For security reasons, your companion will ask for a valid photo identification, such as a passport
or driver's license. Please make sure the name you provide us matches the name as it appears on your personal id

From a popular montreal Indy: For a first rendez-vous, to ensure my safety, you will need to send me via email, without any exceptions, your full name and a verifiable phone number. Once we meet, I will be asking you for*a valid piece of identification with a picture. If the name you*sent me via email does not correspond with your identification, you will be forfeiting the full amount of the donation and I will immediately leave.

From another montreal HDL: I may need additional information from you to confirm your identity. If you are a new client I will need to undertake a security check for my safety. If you are not comfortable with revealing your true identity, then I am not the girl for you[/QUOTE

I tried to provide a reference from another well reviewed SP in lieu of the ID checks, but it was not sufficient.

So my questions are..
1.What is the purpose of the ID checks? Is it so I can be tracked down if harm you?
2.Do most hobbyist provide this info without concern?
3.SP's/Agencies - what do you do with info... once the encounter is over?
4.Are the identification rules establish by the agency or does it vary lady by lady. (Am I trying to make the lady comfortable or the agency?)

Let me stress that I am not bitching here, I am simply trying to learn the established protocol.

 

[Ben Dover]

If seeing that particular HDH SP is more important that maintaining complete privacy, then go for it. There are PLENTY of great SPs you can see and still maintain complete anonymity.

If you have nothing to lose by giving out you name (which is rare) then no problem. Otherwise, I would start thinking with the big head.

Of course you can always get a very good fake ID and a pre-paid cell phone to establish an alternate self for hobbying. This takes a little work at first but it's much more common that you probably think.


BD

 

[Regular Guy]

What's the answer

This has been discussed before. Check the thread

https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=42348&highlight=SP+safety

If I recall correctly it was the declaration of one HDH that it was her way or the highway. Guess you just have to work around it.

 

[Miss Cloe]

This has been discussed before. Check the thread

https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=42348&highlight=SP+safety

If I recall correctly it was the declaration of one HDH that it was her way or the highway. Guess you just have to work around it.

And if you read correctly;
https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=42348&page=4&highlight=SP+safety
(post #55)

It`s all about demonstrations of good will. It is all about at least attempting to build good will. But in the end only a true test will tell. But I will say this: It almost seems like you are taking the position that it`s your way or the highway. If you think going head to head with clients to reveal their identities or it wont happen is going to get them to say, “Oh sure, Okay!” then I have a bridge I can sell you. Your high end clients would expect at the very least, a show of good faith. And even then there are no guarantees.

PS.
Maybe I should be the one selling you that bridge!

 

[freezin]

Thanks RG....

That is quite an informative thread

 

[Regular Guy]

Compromise is the key

And if you read correctly;
https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=42348&page=4&highlight=SP+safety
(post #55)


PS.
Maybe I should be the one selling you that bridge!

Well Miss Cloe, I don`t see the profit in going over ground we have already covered. You have made your point that safety comes first and it overrides any customer`s concern`s of confidentiality.

Sir, I, personally, do not need to convince anyone to reveal their identities. They choose to do so or not... It is part of my screening process before accepting or declining a rendez-vous!!! Every SP has a right to determine her own "work conditions". I choose safety first!

and

I don`t have to go "head to head" with Gentlemen in order to them to reveal their identity. I simply mention the fact, in the first email contact, that in order to schedule a rendez-vous with me, certain conditions apply! Then, it is up to them to decide what they would like to do.

Now do your words in fact say that it`s your way or no way? I am not disputing your right to impose any conditions you feel apply to a rendez-vous with you. That is your call. All that I am saying is that you have stated that your conditions are not negotiable. If I am not mistaken that is exactly what you are saying in the quotes above. Now in my book that translates as, "It`s my way or the highway!" Please understand that I am not making a value judgment here. I am sensitive to your need for safety. I really am. I am also sensitive for the need for many clients to protect their confidentiality. A breach of confidentiality by one careless or vindictive SP could potentially destroy their lives.

The bottom line is I simply don`t see a way around it without some sort of compromise, somewhere. Now if I am being unreasonable, I would sure appreciate hearing how by the membership here. I am not out to start a battle but to find a solution that all can live with. Would you be okay with that?

 

[Lilly Lombard]

Angel on my right shoulder: Yes, the purpose is to ensure her safety.

Devil on my left shoulder: No, the purpose is to hang you by the balls if you flirt with competition. That's her idea of a fidelity program.Angel on my right shoulder: Yes, hobbyists believe it is a matter of mutual trust.

OMG that's crazy! I am convinced there are some insane people out there who think this way, but I do not think it's all of them.

Would seasonal depression be giving dark thoughts right now?

 

[Regular Guy]

Reputation!

and, what I can add... After a while, when you got a really strong established reputation of honesty like I do, people just really do know that they don't have to fear nothing with all the informations that I could have/ or remember on them.

......and, of course, I am considering that I deserved exaclty the same treatment of discretion, about any intimate life details that I could shared...
I just want to be treatened equally at any level.

Simple, isn't?

Now that is one possible answer. There is no question that reputation counts for a lot, for example, especially on this board. And word is passed on back channels as well. There is after all, a kind of a community of sorts here. And after all, isn't that the point of reviews? And not to stop there, but clients themselves should be made aware that they too often establish reputations among the escorts. I, for one have always felt that the answer lies somewhere in this direction. I seem to recall one member (Name I think started with an R, R____p_l) here who gained a tad too much notoriety among the ladies. If memory serves me correctly he was unceremoniously sent packing by the MODs. Of course not all clients are members here but I am sure the jerks eventually get blacklisted at some point. Unfortunately at present it is hit and miss. No one has come up with any system to take it beyond that point. Who knows - Maybe there never will be...........

 

[Regular Guy]

Room for improvement!

How does one become reputed for his/her discretion to begin with?

I don't know. Maybe it's some variation on three strikes and you're out. Takes an element of risk at first and takes a will to form some type of efficient networking. But like I said. it's pretty tough to get some type of foolproof system. One thing for sure is that it would be possible to quickly put the pin on abusive clients or ones who stiff. And an escort would only have to be indiscreet once for the word to pass through some type of networking which would be available to all, whatever that may be. Not much one can do about the guy who suddenly decides to avail himself or the escort new to the biz. Always room for improvement though.