if you lived in montreal, would you have SPs visit your apt?

[prep_mtl]

I live in a nice apt in the downtown area, don't have nosy neighbors, and i'm young and good looking anyway so the doorman wouldn't think anything was unusual about a well dressed and attractive 20 y.o. girl coming up to see me.

I only ask because it seems like such a waste to spend money on a hotel, and to get a hotel anywhere near as nice as my apt would cost a lot of money. Have any of you had any experiences with SPs or their agencies that would make you hesitate about having them visit you at home? Assuming you're single, of course. I figure the money saved on hotels could be put to use on longer or more frequent appointments. Obviously I'm only goign to go with well reviewed girls and agencies...

I've never been with an SP but after my last relationship i just want a sure thing right now. Opinions?

 

[ChicagoDude71]

Never, ever, ever... mix your real life with your hobby.

 

[Minnesotah]

I agree. Protect yourself. Keep your private life / love and your hobby / business seperated. Nothing is better than a hotel room anonymous.

 

[naughtylady]

Robbery is a problem with anyone who ever goes to your home. SP or not. Heck the guy from a utility company is just as likely to case the place!

I have been to many clients homes. I guess some people are more paranoid than others. If you stick with people who have an established reputation there should not be a problem.

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

 

[prep_mtl]

Heh, that's actually very true, naughtylady. When I was 15 and i first moved to quebec with my parents, we hadn't finished moving in yet and they had to go back to toronto to organize the rest of the move. I stayed at my school for a week, and when my parents got back, the house was empty. We always figured it was the guy that was working on the furnace that overheard my parents talking about leaving for a week.

 

[Jaxon]

I think that since you are young, you would want to try as many different girls as possible. There is a possibility that any one could rob you. The number of people in your place,regardless of profession increases the risk. The risk is greater with a large number of people.
I'm in my early 40's and I think if I were to move to Montreal and get a condo or apartment, the ideal set up would be to do business with maybe no more than 2 or 3 SP's on a regular basis.

 

[Minnesotah]

On my side, it was not the robbery, but mostly to keep more privacy and discretion. LEOs makes me more suspecious rather than robbers.

 

[naughtylady]

once again, in Canada prostitution is legal. Especially independant outcalls. So what is the problem with LE?

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

 

[Lusty Pig]

Use your head. Keep things separate. Eventually this cocktail mix (no pun intended) will catch up with you (cross over onto your private life, potential for robbery etc).

 

[ChicagoDude71]

I just re-read what your original post was. Dude if you are young and fairly attractive....don't get involved with this hobby. Go out..meet a nice girl..and use the money you would spend on this to build a nice life for yourself.

Putting aside all of the other risks involved with it....there is one that we tend not to speak of. The more you do this...the more desensitized you become towards women. They become more of an object than a person....i say that from personal experience and it took me a long time to be able to seperate women that i meet that are sp's and women in my private life.

i dunno just my opinion.

Kevin

 

[ravencroft]

A guy in a similar position

Hey Prep_mtl,

Welcome to MERB. I've been in a similar situation as yours for the past 2 years, a 25 year-old farily attractive male living alone in the downtown core. Let me just say that this is an ideal setup, you're easy to get to, and can save yourself a bundle not using hotels. Some of the gentlemen here may send you dire warnings about "keeping your private life and your hobbying life separate", but I've never had any problems in that category, and you have to keep in mind a fair number of them are married men. I'm assuming you're single and have a farily tight budget if you're in your early 20's (unless of course you're a whiz-kid with a good job in which case I'm extremely jealous ), so having them come to you saves you a bundle and also keeps you from a sleazy 1 hour motel.

As for the robbery issue, I too was concerned the first time I ever called an outcall agency, so I hid my most valuable stuff away but left a few token items out just as a test. They never moved an inch, and I quickly realized theft is not an issue with these agencies, the last thing they want is to attract unwanted attention. Secondly it's not like the girl has that much of a chance to pinch anything unless you spend a great deal of time washing up after the first SOG, if anything they should be more worried about you rummaging through their stuff while they're washing up since they are carrying your cash.

That's my two cents on the issues listed above, if you've never hobbied before and are afraid it is something that will alter your life forever, that all depends on your personality and values. Since I am a firm believer that prostitution should be legalized fully, I am not ashamed of being a hobbyist (though I have retired these last 5 months because I'm in a good relationship for once). Although it's not something I would run to confess to my girlfriend, were I serious enough to get engaged with someone I would have no problems confessing the fact since it would be a past chapter of my life and I've had myself tested numerous times over my three years of hobbying and have always come out clean (current track record 20 SPs). I was young, horny, and desperately needed experience in the sack to gain confidence. Now that I've got that, I only hobby if I'm going through a serious dry spell. As for being desensitized to women and treating them like objects, it only takes a date with one great girl to bring you right back to the light side of things.

Best of luck with your decision and I hope this was helpful to you,

Raven out

 

[EagerBeaver]

Hi Ravencroft,

I hope you eventually come to conclude that a little bit of cheating on your GF is in order as I do miss your posts. You were a very good contributor to this Board in the past.

If not good luck with this girl.

 

[ravencroft]

Thanks EB,

It was hard at first (I almost went into convulsions from withdrawal ), but I've settled down for a bit, but believe me there will be at least two more posts sometime in the near future since I still have two important fantasies to fulfill: a trip to the greek isles, and the menage-a-trois. Who knows, I may have to sample the latter several times, just to be thorough in my evaluation

Sorry I've missed the last few parties, but I knew if I saw some of the new girls from DC and other agencies in person, I would have probably caved a long time ago.

Raven out (for the time being )

 

[Hornee]

To Judge69

You are paranoid.

Do not stereotype people.

I trust everybody, I would not bring an SP to my home for other reasons than a possible burglary. If you are worried about theft, don't ever leave home, always keep your hands in your pockets and then you won't need the services of a pretty, young SP.

 

[naughtylady]

to Judge69

I re-read your post several times. Who are these people who you think most of the girls deal with? Considering the vast majority of sex workers, including street girls, work as indys and are not run by street gangs? As for agencies, same thing, most street gangs are into the drug business first and foremost. Where are you getting your info from? If you wish I can refer you to some recent studies. I believe you have bought into the syereotype.

Imagine if we working girls bought into the stereotype of who our clients are!

SMACK APPEAL, juzt_a_girl, ravencroft, femaleluver, well said!

Ronnie,
Naughtylady

 

[orallover]

the more I spend time here on Merb and other site, the more I like Ronnie and Chloe and Victoria girl.
I really start to value their opinion.
thanks ladies.
If you see me at a bar or any other places during the summer, do not hesitate to say hello. I will buy you guys a drink. it is a promise. If I am with a person don't worry, to that person we are just old friend from school

 

[Elvis]

Street girls

Considering the vast majority of sex workers, including street girls, work as indys and are not run by street gangs?

Allo???

I suggest that you take a walk on Ontario or on Ste-Catherine Est... One of the saddest thing in Montreal.

You should stop looking at the "scientific literature" and get a reality check.

Street girls are all (let's say 95%) junkies. Most are suffering from mental problems of some sort. Some of these girls are so deteriorated that even the street gangs don't want them. That's very very sad. Street walkers are at the bottom of the pit. There is nothing below them.

Check this link, if you want to have a feel about what is a street whore junkie.

To associate the "Street prostitutes" with "sex workers", like you or Chloé, is literally non-sense. These street girls are junkies and are mentally and physically handicaped. They only need one thing: professional help.

That being said, life is very strong and women that have spent many years as junkies and street prostitutes can still come back and live a "normal" life. That's where organizations like Stella can come in and be helpful.

To bring a street girl to your apartment is suicidal.​

Elvis

 

[EagerBeaver]

I am sort of on the fence on this issue. I can certainly see Judge69's points, and they are not to be dismissed with a wave of the hand.

In five years of hobbying, I have had only two SPs ever come to my place. I think a level of trust has to be established. Recently I invited one of my favorites from Montreal to visit me at my place in Connecticut. It's the first time such an invitation has been extended in nearly two years. I really have to feel comfortable with her. If there is a level of trust, then it is just like inviting any friend to your house.

If you don't know her, and there is no level of trust, then Judge69's concerns certainly may come into play.

 

[prep_mtl]

I wasn't expecting this many replies. Thanks guys (and gals).

I've decided that I'm not going to be overly paranoid about things. I'd never go out and advertise that I used the services of SPs, but since it IS legal up here, I figure there isn't too much to worry about from LE and since I'm really not that newsworthy at this point, having a girl come to my apt is not a huge concern now that I think about it.

I suppose I asked because of all the negative images crammed into my head from movies, etc. You know, the crazy crack whore that calls her pimp over some dispute with a client and causes a big scene.. In reality, I doubt I'll run in to those kinds of problems with the well reviewed agencies and ladies, nor would i likely have any cause for dispute with them.

As for ChicagoDude, who asked why I would do this if i was young and attractive, the answer is a bit complicated. I think you've just opened the floodgates. Where else to vent but online?

Basically, I pursued a girl in vain for about a year and I have nothing to show for it. I'm pretty sure I did everything right, hell she even said so. Bottom line, she's been with this loser bf for years (no job and not looking for one, HS dropout, aggressive, etc.) and she can't dump him (a whole lot of reasons have popped-up as to why not including dead/dying family members..). I took her to the best restaurants, bought her $$ gifts, treated her exceptionally well (and not just in a monetary incentive sort of way), and I still got the runaround on a regular basis.

The only reason I put up with it for as long as I did was that she was the first and only girl I've ever fallen in love with (i'm mid 20s). Anyway, this was extremely frustrating for me because we would have made such a good couple (and it's not just me thinking that), but she can't make it happen on her end cause she doesn't have the spine to stand-up to this guy and end it for good. There have been many attempts but the guy basically stalks her and pretends like everything is fine and she always ends up back with him. For other reasons I won't go in to, she doesn't want police involved, and she won't let me offer any help.

It was always up and down with her, not because of any problems between us, but the situation as a whole. During this whole ordeal I let it affect my work both at school and at the office, which is very out of character for me since I've got very thick armor... On the Stalin scale I'd probably rate a 9/10. She's the only thing that's ever really affected me. I'm an ambitious guy and I really don't like the fact that it affected my work and school.

I've essentially decided that I won't be pursuing anymore relationships until I've attained certain goals. It's not an "I hate women" thing, it's a priorities thing. That said, I still love women, I just don't want to be involved with them at this point. Frankly, I'm not the clubbing type (hate them), so the options are kinda thin for finding women up to my standards that don't want a relationship ;p So I figured why not give SPs a try? They probably cost less than I'd spend on girlfriend anyway (I so enjoy spoiling them).

Is that too much info? Sorry, i haven't really talked about it much and once I started it just sorta poured out. There's nothing like the anonymity of the internet

 

[Elvis]

bonjour Chloé!

There doesn't seem to be much a a "street action" section on this board...

There is one, Chloé... Less popular since Oliver was kicked out of this Board but it is still active

I believe the person that started this thread was talking about calling an agency... Elvis? Chloë

I brought the topic only because Ronnie wrote the equation Sex Workers = SP = Street girls. They are not equivalent at all. Street girls are "crazy", unfortunately, for most of them. I consider them as very dangerous. IMHO, this is not a stereotype but almost a fact. I did once met a girl walking the streets who was doing his Master's in biochemistry at UQAM, but she was even as crazy as the others.

Personnaly, I would never consider inviting a SP in my luxurious penthouse unless I know her personally very well and she has become a friend. Other that that, a guy, specially if he is a businessman or, even worst, a married man, is taking a risk.

Good night

Elvis